Canadian Court imposes $750k fine for not believing in gender ideology

[Igmum]

What is this madness? https://x.com/HJoyceGender/status/2024566072066683251

The Trannish Inquisition?

Oh very nice 👏👏👏

Well quite. I identify as a princess, but no one is rushing to let me live in a palace. Why is that identity considered less valid than if I say I identify as a man?

Due to politicians thinking it s good idea and legislating for it. Basically thinking of men first and women and children not at all.

Its the usual bollocks separating people into two castes, the entitled and the unentitled.

Why does one group of people get to inflict their personal beliefs on others and force participation, but the other group's personal beliefs are to be set aside unconditionally and without protest?

It's the same as 'it's respectful and kind of YOU to play silly and complicated games with your language to submit to me and gratify me, but it's fine for me to entirely disrespectfully and unkindly ignore and reject YOUR language choices and treat you as if you're my paid support worker'.

Power. That's all it is.

How, historically speaking boys, girls, wolfs and others, does it tend to end when a group of people have undeserved power and status while making demands on an increasingly illtreated, fed up and much larger population?

If this stands beyond appeal then law has changed from being justice and equality to being just the weapon of the (currently) powerful and their personal narrative.

And it isn’t just a slap on the wrist fine. For most people this fine would be life altering. It would mean bankruptcy.

telling the children he is "actually a woman" who "likes boys."

What does he mean by this? Is he saying he's a paedophile?

Well, I didn't expect that.

No one does.

Taking those words strictly .... potentially yes.

This is the key. The only proof of the existence of gender identity is that people exist who claim to have it. Which is no proof at all.

I do believe in GI as an expression of preference, though. It's the consequent legal and social effects I object to. They are nonsensical because they ignore important physiological facts (and their historic social consequences).

I know I'm just stating the bleeding obvious yet again, but I can't get over the fact that we even have to.

It's some fucked-up society that sees nothing wroing with putting that wolf loon in a classroom of kids. Has all common-sense gone out of the window?

It's just insane how the whole of the modern world ie the West has been hijacked by this bonkers cult, Tranada is even worse that NZ and Aus.

Human Rights legislation was suppose to protect the ordinary people from the excesses of a totalitarian government To reduce it to nothing more than a handmaiden to the excesses of a totalitarian ideology, that is completely made rubbish, is beyond a moral bankruptcy. The people responsible for this decision are intellectually broken beyond repair.

I know. But think about it even further. Even if gender identity is real and exists, why should anyone be compelled to believe in it? Gravity is real and exists, but there isn't a law forcing us to believe in it. Neither is there a law forcing us to believe that women are real, or gays are real, or whatever.

The only possible reason for compelling people to believe in gender identity is that it isn't true. If it was true, it wouldn't matter whether anyone believed in it or not.

I believe that a small number of people feel that their biological gender isn't how they feel about themselves. ie they are physically male be feel themselves to be female or visa versa.

I do believe a very tiny number of people think like that (particularly those brainwashed by gender stereotypes as kids), but I also truly believe that most (as in over 95%) of those claiming a gender identity are chancers who are using it as a way to get something they want.

That is utter nonsense. I believe in gender identity in the sense that I believe some people have one. I, however, do not have a gender identity. I don't understand how me not having a gender identity or believing that not everyone has one means I am denying the existence of trans people. They exist. I've seen them. I just don't think they have changed sex.

You just have to accept that they believe that their soul has been saved by Jesus. And you really can't argue about what other people believe, you have your beliefs and they have theirs. Of course if their beliefs cause them to do things that are a danger to themselves or others it becomes a police or mental health issue.

In the same way you have to accept the beliefs of someone who genuinely believes their biological sex is not how they identify inside you can disagree but you can't feel how they feel.

What does this even mean though - in what way does someone believe that they are ‘female’ without reference to their sex? (Without resorting to stereotypes if possible)

Genuine question, I have heard people say this, but I don’t understand what they mean

Excellent point!

Someone I knew was one of a small number of people who believed the devil spoke directly to her out of a cloud of smoke emerging from her living room door.

A few weeks in patient care and an adjustment of her medication sent the devil packing.

Her belief was genuine and profound and life-changing, but the rest of us were not expected to share it.

What does feeling female mean? When that person is not a woman.

Once again it's pretzel logic.
GC people have reacted to the suggestion that there are gender identities, and they are separate from sex, by saying "ok, it would be helpful to define gender identities so we know what differentiates a man and a woman under that system, but also let's keep things that are intended to relate to sex as that - relating to sex as separate from gender id".

It's the TRAs who keep insisting that their gender identity is their sex and needs to be treated as such.

I have rarely come across any TRA who wants to keep sex as sex and gender ID as gender ID. They are simultaneously separate and the same thing when it suits them.

their biological gender

Gender is biological, it's a postmodernist construct.

Name one feeling that is unique to being female.