So Doctor “ Beth “ Upton is off to pastures new , leaving a large ongoing bill for NHS Fife

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Dr Upton is off to Australia it seems, after creating a toxic situation for women in NHS Fife, wonder if Dr Upton is going to be working in “ Gender Services “ down under ?

Sadly I think you are right. Australia is a basket case. Poor female patients/staff.

Absolutely he did. It was so gloriously whacky I saved the quote from the Daily Telegraph:

Dr Upton replied: “The term biologically female or biologically male is completely nebulous. It has no defined or agreed meaning in science, as far as I’m aware. I’m not a robot, so I am biological and my identity is female. Without wanting to appeal to the dictionary too much, I’m biologically female.”
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Dr Upton added: “Not all those things are what you might call concordant with the other. There are very few people who don’t think understanding of some aspect of somebody’s biology is important in some situations. But there is no agreed definition of biological sex. It’s a nebulous dog whistle.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/10/im-biologically-female-insists-trans-nhs-doctor-born-male/

In his judgment, the judge said that Upton was a "credible witness".

Funny old world.

What ‘her’ do you mean?

his empathy is lacking, he has lied about sex on the stand, and he made fraudulent complaints about Sandie Peggie. What a prince of a man.

In his judgment, the judge said that Upton was a "credible witness".

And the judge turned out to be a non-credible judge.

Why are you calling a male doctor, who believes that humans can change sex "her"? Doesn't it alarm you, that any doctor who believes that he can change from a male to a female, should not be trusted and certainly shouldn't be practicing medicine?

“The term biologically female or biologically male is completely nebulous. It has no defined or agreed meaning in science, as far as I’m aware. I’m not a robot, so I am biological and my identity is female. Without wanting to appeal to the dictionary too much, I’m biologically female"

Said the man who will never have to worry about contraception or giving birth and whose heterosexual marriage is recognised everywhere in the world.

I think that you are wrong.

"If you are medically examined for
forensic evidence this can only
happen if you consent (unless you are
unconscious) and will be conducted
by a specially trained doctor or nurse.
You can ask for a male or female
doctor."

https://www.rightsofwomen.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/survivors-of-sexual-violence-rights-at-a-glance-digital.pdf

It's very, very worrying that someone with those views is qualified to practise medicine. Either he actually believes it, in which case he is either mentally ill or of very low intelligence, or he is saying it for other reasons, which means he's a manipulative liar. None of those is good.

Oh FFS. We don’t want him here. Can we have Sandie instead? We always need more nurses, especially experienced ones.

I assume he’ll be heading for Melbourne or at least Victoria. It’s the centre of all of the gender ideology crap in this country.

Bollocks.
His, mainly.

Yes. Exactly.

And my very point was that Dr Upton considers that he should be classed as a female medical examiner in those circumstances, whereas people in my circumstances rely on Drs having integrity and acceptance that informed consent is important and respecting that a request for a female medic is a request for a biological female medic, not someone like him.

Fucking hell.

Its bad wording by both of us.

@Scoffingbiscuits post is about the Scottish legislation which was designed to have a specific hire and training policy.

In effect the service should match its hire policy to the victim sex profile. So the obligation is to match the need to the provision. So same idea as the breast cancer screening service only hire female front line staff

So if say 70% of victims wanted the medic to only be female the service can discriminate and only hire women until they have the 70% and thereafter hire from the total pool of qualified people.

Scottish TRA wanted the legislation to say gender so service would be able to fill the 70% need in provision by the hire of men who claimed to be female.

So if the victim said women only and she did not realise it was a male and more importantly was not informed by anybody in the room he would be sent into court to give evidence on his acts.

The theory being he could not be charged for a sexual assault as it was a medical act carried out after informed consent was obtained and the Act allows his claim to be a woman to stand.

I am so sorry Australia

I forgot about the 'making stuff up that could cost a colleague her reputation and her job' when I replied to Pithy.
It appears that Pithy has left us.. no surprise there.

I’d have hoped we’d have moved past victim blaming and gained some understanding of coercive control, and the experiences of trans widows, on mumsnet but apparently not.

Yes, it was really something to behold. He argued over every single word with Naomi Cunningham and condescendingly told her the meaning of words as if she was the ignorant one.

He is a narcissist.

Narcissism has a strong place in transgenderism. I often wonder if it was trained into some as they went down the gender rabbit hole or if they all had those tendencies already and the ideology seemed like the answer to their inadequacy.

and in the medical profession, especially surgeons.

My experience of one was that he actively enjoyed my distress @ickky so that fits.

Yes he did say that

He said: I am biological, I am not a robot, and I am a woman, so I am a biological woman

The judge and panel accepted this and he was deemed a reliable witness

i was watching the tribunal live - he definitely said it, it’s not poor reporting or selective quotation.

Having watched all his evidence myself, I am still utterly utterly gobsmacked that he was viewed as a credible and reliable witness.

The legalities of this are worrying, especially if he has applied under a female name to hide his records...

Shame on them

Fairly typical toxic male pattern behaviour, enjoys bullying a woman, but runs away when it doesn't go his way. Vile porn addled scrote, should never have been tolerated by the NHS which is supposed to treat everyone fairly.