So Doctor “ Beth “ Upton is off to pastures new , leaving a large ongoing bill for NHS Fife

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Dr Upton is off to Australia it seems, after creating a toxic situation for women in NHS Fife, wonder if Dr Upton is going to be working in “ Gender Services “ down under ?

Where he goes absolutely should be news. Women wherever he goes should be aware they are dealing with a man who doesn’t believe informed consent should apply to his patients.

So basically playing word games and creating his own meaning for the phrase 'biological woman'?

Bizarre.

I think, as PPs have said, he's just finished his contract there and has either moved to another role already or will be moving to another role.

Can he go abroad if the EAT is upcoming? Is he needed for that, especially if its sent back to be re-heard?

Would this mean he couldn't be made to give evidence here in the future?

As I understand it, rape victims do not have the right to be examined by a female medical examiner. They have the right to ask for one, but there is no guarantee that there will be one.

His judgement and his ethics are very much in question. If his behaviour around female patients is anything like his behaviour around nurses - I’d steer well clear.

Christ, hope his Aussie employer has googled him.... They need to be ready for the next round of this match in the next hospital.

This guy takes notes of every glance he feels is hateful - this won't be his only delve into an employment tribunal I'm sure.

Rape victims are usually directed to a SARC which is all female.

Female rape victims certainly have the right to refuse examination by a male doctor in an NHS hospital.

True, and they can then refuse the male who wishes to carry out examination. If there isn't a woman available one cannot be spirited up but perhaps they could delay the examination until the next shift come on duty. Very reasonable.

This chap would likely then make a formal complaint about the patients conduct being transphobic against him personally, and make himself the story rather than seek to support the woman in her legal, appropriate choice.

And he expects if a female, rape victim or not, asks for a female medical examiner that he, a male, should be allowed to be that medical examiner because in his opinion he is female.

Much like the creepy fucker at Edinburgh Rape Crisis he doesn’t think it’s the business of women to know that he is not a woman.

When I was raped I asked for all female staff and minimal people around. Whilst being examined I was in such a state I couldn’t tell you who was in the room, if they were male or female, how many people were there as I had my face buried in an ice pack - I just trusted that my request was respected. Had Upton been in our area it may well not have been and that’s simply not acceptable.

@PithyViewer he, not she.

I think you have identified the only, and the very unlikely and extreme case, in which I'd be prepared to let DrU treat me

In all other circumstances, I wouldn't want to be treated by a doctor with such a bizarre take on human physiology, who is clearly not entirely in touch with reality because he stated under oath that he is a biological woman, and who is quite upfront about his willingness to be deceptive about his sex to woman patients.

Thanks but no thanks, DrU.

As an employer, I'd be worried that his hypervigilance about slights, real or imaginary, and his litigiousness, would make him a tricky person to manage.

As a female colleague, if I was one who, unlike him, sticks to scientific rather than ideological definitions, I'd be concerned about my name appearing on the same roster as his, as it would be a nightmare to have to work alongside someone with so many limitations, professional and personal.

You use the word 'prejudice' - the word means a preconceived, and therefore unfair, opinion formed without any actual experience or facts.

None of us knew DrU from a hole in the ground before the NHSF tribunal, so you are incorrect to use the word 'prejudice' - my opinion of DrU is based on his own words, spoken under oath, to an Employment Tribunal.
That's not prejudice.

Agreed

But the TRAs all wanted the word sex removed and replaced with gender.
It would have rolled right through the service objective and undermined the aim of the wording which was to provide the victim a choice if there was staff available

The aim was also to have a majority female staff to best meet the needs of majority victims.

If gender had been allowed
This would have allowed a male to apply as a female.
For him to be ranked above other males when the service were making provision for more female victims so could hire on the basis of sex.
To be assigned to a female only on call list
To be brought into the room after the victim was told that a female examiner would attend.
Etc

So no informed consent and coercive control by staff resulting in a male carrying out a sexual assault while examining the victim of a sexual assault wit an objective of convicting the first sex offender but not the second.

TRA did not see the problem with that.

any future employer who doesn't google him is an idiot (you'd expect most prospective employers to do that anyway - you never know)

Rape victims are sent to SARCS Sexual Assault Referral Centres

You absolutely have the right to request an examination by female doctor and have the choice to wait if one is not currently available.

I hope Dr Upton never works in medicine again. He maliciously reported a hardworking colleague to his manager, he showed himself willing to ignore a female patient's request for a female doctor, and under cross-examination, by describing himself as a biological woman, he was either lying or displaying a quite remarkable ignorance of biological facts that would shame a five-year old.

When I was a DC in Hampshire, the primary SARC doctor for one of the major cities was male, and transitioned to become a trans woman who continued to work as the primary doctor.... That was as recent as 2015. I hope he's not still there.

Not even contemporaneous notes either. Sad times.

Good riddance. Hes Australia's problem now. Although ive heard that they are pretty much ,"captured "
Good luck Oz!!

That’s not always the case. The SARCS here is only available 9am-9pm (at that time it was mon-Fri, but now is 7 days) so I wasn’t sent there, I was dealt with at the hospital as things couldn’t wait until 9am.

It's already being framed on X as 'forced to flee the NHS because of transphobia'.

I agree that there is hardly anything unusual about a recently qualified doctor moving from the UK to Australia.

I think anyone who suggests that sex is a wibbly wobbly thing that nobody can define should be struck off. It suggests a sexist, privileged dismissal of the reasons that we bother to define sex and a lack the necessary intelligence required to treat patients, but from what I hear of Australia, Dr Upton's presence won't make things much worse.

I don’t know where you are but most are open 24/7 as they’re a forensic service.

If a SARC is not available and you have to go to A&E you still have the right to ask for a female doctor and wait for an available one.

@PithyViewer. Upton is a man . Born male and will die male.

He did. He lied in court. And it came to light that he doctored his 'contemporaneous notes'.