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Your Corbyn/Sultana Party - Discussion thread - Part 3

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fromorbit · 23/01/2026 07:54

Welcome to Part 3 of Mumsnet charting the drama inside Your Party. We have followed YP from the start when it looked liked it might be a major player to its ongoing internal row which has left it struggling.

We have the best and funniest commentary on British hard left wing politics, looking not just at YP itself, but wider issues plaguing the left. Dominated by the problem which weirdly didn't worry Marx, the Chartists, Anarchists, Trade Unionists, even Communist regimes, or much of the long history of left wing feminists, but suddenly in the last ten or so years has become huge. Is Human biology a thing ? Are men in dresses the most oppressed people on the planet even if they are billionaires?

Currently we are looking at Your Party internal elections which have been dominated by the split between the Corbyn and Sultana factions who have different visions of how the party should look. Summarised here:

Your Party? Whose elections?
https://www.workersliberty.org/story/2026-01-21/your-party-whose-elections?language_content_entity=en

Sultana's Grassroots Left slate not only added Corbyn without permission but others. It seems they are being denounced for undemocratic manoeuvres.

Fractures amongst Sultana's shadow caucus have opened up
https://skidrowradio.substack.com/p/the-slate-that-wasnt

As always the Men in Dresses have outsize importance. The Trans Liberation group are backing the Sultanate Grassroots Left faction, but things as always are messy.

The set up of the YP voting also means there are male and female posts in each region. The non binary types are claiming this is unfair what about them:
Is this trolling? LGBTQIA+ group demand "non-binary" CEC spots
A Your Party clique is infuriated that non-men/women isn't a category for the elections.
https://skidrowradio.substack.com/p/is-this-trolling-lgbtqia-group-demand

There is plenty more crazy to come.

Your Corbyn/Sultana Party - Discussion thread - Part 1
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5394557-your-corbynsultana-party-discussion-thread

Your Corbyn/Sultana Party - Discussion thread - Part 2
All about the conference and run up which really saw YP faction fighting intensify. Highlights included a Scottish "trans" male sex pest berating the conference.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5440730-your-corbynsultana-party-discussion-thread-part-2?page=1

people's party

Your Party? Whose elections?

Edited 21.1.26 with updates. Ruth Cashman, a regular writer for Solidarity, was initially banned from standing for the Central Executive Committee of Your Party on grounds that YP rules exclude members of “other national political parties”. She appeale...

https://www.workersliberty.org/story/2026-01-21/your-party-whose-elections?language_content_entity=en

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fromorbit · 26/02/2026 12:56

Corbyn’s slate now has a majority

The Many (Corbyn Slate): 14
Grassroots Left (Sultana Slate): 8
Independent: 2
*Corbyn was endorsed by both slates.
Turnout: 25,347 (61.8%). Membership: 40,985.

Public Office Holders
CORBYN, Jeremy (The Many) SULTANA, Zarah (Grassroots Left) SMITH, Laura (The Many) LEWIS, Grace (Grassroots Left)

North West GORST, Sam (Independent) ASPINALL, Dawn (The Many)
North East DAVIS, Catherine (The Many) HAWKINS, Hannah (The Many) Yorkshire & The Humber MOSLEY, Monique (The Many) WILSON, Sophie (Grassroots Left)
East of England AHMED, Solma (Grassroots Left) RUST, Jo (The Many)
West Midlands CLARKE, Megan (Grassroots Left) MOFFAT, Sue (The Many) East Midlands REGAN, Louise (The Many) KHAN, Riaz (The Many)
South East WIMBORNE-IDRISSI, Naomi (Independent) BELLINGHAM, Cassandra (The Many)
South West WILLIAMS, Candi (Grassroots Left) FORBES, Jennifer (The Many) London MULLINGS, Melecia (Grassroots Left) BEGUM, Noor Jahan (The Many) Wales DONNELLAN, Maria (The Many)
Scotland CHRISTIE, Niall (Independent)

I imagine the party will go regional focusing mainly on Muslim areas in North midlands though I guess they will also fight seriously in London.

Might make a difference in the upcoming London elections and damage the Greens.

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SionnachRuadh · 26/02/2026 13:01

You're telling me that Max Shanly didn't get elected? But everyone on X was supporting him!

fromorbit · 26/02/2026 14:01

SionnachRuadh · 26/02/2026 13:01

You're telling me that Max Shanly didn't get elected? But everyone on X was supporting him!

Apparently Corbynism didn't die in 2019.

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SionnachRuadh · 26/02/2026 14:16

I notice that Zarah's friend Grace Lewis, the sole Coventry councillor to defect, got in. Grace is 22. She has the useful effect of making Zarah look a bit more mature by comparison.

I wonder if we could do that in reverse and find a very elderly figure who would make Corbyn look relatively young and sprightly. It's a shame Mildred Gordon is no longer with us.

Lalgarh · 26/02/2026 21:32

This is from before the results came out, but shows there are still skirmishes between the factions blocking others from attending meetings.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/feb/25/future-of-party-lies-in-balance-corbyn-and-sultanas-battle-for-soul-of-your-party

And this:

Even if the election does provide some resolution, it is unlikely to be the end of the drama. The Guardian understands that a dispute about the funds, which centres on hundreds of thousands of pounds of donations and fees received by MOU Operations Ltd, a company set up earlier this year, is ongoing.
Sultana, who now has sole control over MOU Operations, is understood to have transferred £600,000 of about £850,000 to Your Party coffers, arguing the rest should be retained in case of future legal or administrative expenses.
A separate pot of money – believed to be about £500,000 – that was collected after Sultana launched the unauthorised membership portal on 18 September remains in limbo.

Is she collecting interest on that estimated £750k?

Zero hour: Corbyn and Sultana duke it out in battle for the soul of Your Party

After eight months of rows and rifts, results of leadership election offering ‘fundamentally differing visions’ are due

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/feb/25/future-of-party-lies-in-balance-corbyn-and-sultanas-battle-for-soul-of-your-party

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/02/2026 04:04

Sounds seriously dodgy!

ThisTaupeZebra · 27/02/2026 07:59

fromorbit · 26/02/2026 12:56

Corbyn’s slate now has a majority

The Many (Corbyn Slate): 14
Grassroots Left (Sultana Slate): 8
Independent: 2
*Corbyn was endorsed by both slates.
Turnout: 25,347 (61.8%). Membership: 40,985.

Public Office Holders
CORBYN, Jeremy (The Many) SULTANA, Zarah (Grassroots Left) SMITH, Laura (The Many) LEWIS, Grace (Grassroots Left)

North West GORST, Sam (Independent) ASPINALL, Dawn (The Many)
North East DAVIS, Catherine (The Many) HAWKINS, Hannah (The Many) Yorkshire & The Humber MOSLEY, Monique (The Many) WILSON, Sophie (Grassroots Left)
East of England AHMED, Solma (Grassroots Left) RUST, Jo (The Many)
West Midlands CLARKE, Megan (Grassroots Left) MOFFAT, Sue (The Many) East Midlands REGAN, Louise (The Many) KHAN, Riaz (The Many)
South East WIMBORNE-IDRISSI, Naomi (Independent) BELLINGHAM, Cassandra (The Many)
South West WILLIAMS, Candi (Grassroots Left) FORBES, Jennifer (The Many) London MULLINGS, Melecia (Grassroots Left) BEGUM, Noor Jahan (The Many) Wales DONNELLAN, Maria (The Many)
Scotland CHRISTIE, Niall (Independent)

I imagine the party will go regional focusing mainly on Muslim areas in North midlands though I guess they will also fight seriously in London.

Might make a difference in the upcoming London elections and damage the Greens.

So in old money, are Corbyn's slate Labour Left, and Sultana's slate SWP-sympathisers?

It seems to me the 'Members' Oversight Committee' is still pretty opaque. 5 members, but one wants to remain anonymous according to the Guardian. Only 3 listed on the Your Party website.

Steph Pike was heavily involved in Counterfire/People's Assembly Against Austerity 10 years ago, so I presume a Sultana supporter? Does anybody know where Felicity Smart and Will Donovan come from?

The Your Party committee election was chaos. Why break the habit of a lifetime? | John Crace

As the results livestream was delayed, voters lamented: ‘Is it too much to ask for competence as well as democracy?’

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/feb/26/the-your-party-committee-election-was-chaos-why-break-the-habit-of-a-lifetime

Lalgarh · 09/03/2026 00:31

The Lambeth branch has had it's chair and vice chair resign after a struggle session over the (veteran female) vice chairs statement being seen as transphobic, after mention of balancing rights.

Tariq Ali is sad

https://nitter.net/habibi_uk/status/2030679386198823069#m

Bertiebiscuit · 09/03/2026 00:36

I would also be happier if Corbyn had stayed on his allotment.

SionnachRuadh · 09/03/2026 00:54

I know I make fun of unemployed maharajah Tariq Ali, but he's seen this kind of thing many times before. Maybe in his old age he's started to learn that this is not how you win friends and influence people.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/03/2026 03:26

Lalgarh · 09/03/2026 00:31

The Lambeth branch has had it's chair and vice chair resign after a struggle session over the (veteran female) vice chairs statement being seen as transphobic, after mention of balancing rights.

Tariq Ali is sad

https://nitter.net/habibi_uk/status/2030679386198823069#m

Christ it sounds awful.

RainbowBagels · 09/03/2026 15:40

I'm shocked that so many people are still wasting their time on this fools errand!

fromorbit · 10/03/2026 08:45

Latest.
Be interesting to see what happens in May. Using independent rather than official YP candidates will probably only help given the YP brand is not strong. May damage Greens in some areas unless they come to a deal.

Jeremy Corbyn Officially Elected Parliamentary Leader Of ‘Your Party’

Jennifer Forbes, a Corbyn ally, was elected chair of the party on Sunday. Members of Corbyn’s ‘The Many’ won all eight leadership positions up for grabs in the CEC’s first full meeting. Former Labour MP Laura Smith was elected as vice-chair, and Palestine campaigner and National Education Union activist Louise Regan as political officer.
Sources now say the focus of Your Party will turn to the May elections. During the founding conference, members voted to endorse independent council candidates in England who are politically aligned to Your Party, and to prioritise potential gains over number of candidates endorsed.
Insiders are confident they can help to defeat Labour candidates in urban areas previously considered safe for the governing party, such as in east London and Bradford.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/jeremy-corbyn-officially-elected-parliamentary-leader-your-party

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SionnachRuadh · 10/03/2026 08:54

In Corbyn's own backyard, Islington Community Independents (effectively YP) think they've got a chance of electing people, but they're also hoping the Greens will informally give them a free run in certain wards.

Maybe, and I know there are personal relationships that might help, but there have recently been YP defections to GPEW and the Greens might feel they're strong enough not to need pacts with local YP groups.

fromorbit · 24/03/2026 09:02

Damn this helps the Scottish Greens

Your Party 'will not be standing in Holyrood elections'
"As a result of inaction and decisions taken by Your Party at a UK level, members in Scotland will be unable – regardless of whether they want to – to stand Your Party candidates in May's election," Christie said.
Despite repeated attempts to discuss and agree on the party's Holyrood plan at the committee meeting, he claimed no such proposal was heard or voted on.

Because the CEC will not meet again until April 10 – nine days after the deadline to submit candidates for the May election – Christie said this means that Your Party will not be standing for seats in Holyrood.
Christie said there had also been "repeated disrespectful conduct towards Scotland and the democratically ratified bodies in Scotland".
He went on to say that Scottish Your Party members were "being overruled by decisions taken at CEC level", pointing towards the party's inaugural Scottish conference in February, where members voted by nearly 70% to stand candidates in the election.

https://archive.is/K4K8i

Interestingly there seems to be no problem getting YP to stand in London:

Your Party candidate applications close Wednesday 25th March as Lambeth’s anti-Labour challengers race to get in place before 2026 election deadline

Your Party candidate applications close Wednesday 25th March as Lambeth’s anti-Labour challengers race to get in place before 2026 election deadline

Your Party, the new political movement born out of Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana’s break with Labour, closes its national call for council candidates tomorrow, with member selections and ap…

https://www.brixtonbuzz.com/2026/03/your-party-candidate-applications-close-wednesday-25th-march-as-lambeths-anti-labour-challengers-race-to-get-in-place-before-2026-election-deadline/

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Lalgarh · 24/03/2026 09:12

Oh. Ha so that set of Scottish Greens cllrs (including the TRA one being investigated over safeguarding) who switched to them are stuck?

Corbyn, meanwhile, is in Cuba. With Kneecap.

https://nitter.net/jeremycorbyn/status/2036060673843610046#m

SionnachRuadh · 24/03/2026 10:00

O how have the mighty fallen!

Not so long ago, every distinguished actor and musician in Britain - except for the Fox family - were supporting Corbyn.

Now he's reduced to slumming it with Belfast's pseudo-edgy middle class theatre kids.

ChequerToRed · 24/03/2026 12:38

SionnachRuadh · 24/03/2026 10:00

O how have the mighty fallen!

Not so long ago, every distinguished actor and musician in Britain - except for the Fox family - were supporting Corbyn.

Now he's reduced to slumming it with Belfast's pseudo-edgy middle class theatre kids.

My favourite description of them is ‘Goldie Lookin’ Sinn Fein’ 🤭

moto748e · 24/03/2026 12:52

Arf! 😂

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/03/2026 14:40

ChequerToRed · 24/03/2026 12:38

My favourite description of them is ‘Goldie Lookin’ Sinn Fein’ 🤭

🤣 that’s very amusing

Lalgarh · 24/03/2026 15:16

It looks like Little Owen Jones was in Cuba too.

https://nitter.net/owenjonesjourno/status/2036131462483685887#m

So was his better looking millionaire agitprop American counterpart Hasan Piker, who recently did a credulous tour of China but who if anything nowadays is better known for having been accused of using a shock collar on his dog.

According to terrible US blockade conditions, they were forced to stay in a 5 star hotel.

WittyLimeBiscuit · 25/03/2026 08:09

Could someone please start a thread like this on Polanksi and the Greens?

fromorbit · 25/03/2026 09:27

WittyLimeBiscuit · 25/03/2026 08:09

Could someone please start a thread like this on Polanksi and the Greens?

Already done - Enjoy.

Latest drama polls now predict the Greens might be on course to tale over Birmingham with a coalition with Gaza Independents.

Two threads on the Green Party and Zack Polanski's amazing Boob whispering powers
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?page=28

Scottish Greens -
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=13

Page 13 | Scottish Greens being sexist again | Mumsnet

With Sparkles no longer a member other male Scottish Greens have had to step up to continue their terrible reputation. They are doing their bit. *Sco...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=13

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Lalgarh · 25/03/2026 11:17

The Gaza independents who are all "landlords and transphobes" in the view of Your Party stalwarts like "Ayatollah of democratic socialism" Max Shanly

Lalgarh · 30/03/2026 10:12

Green party rival Polanski now doing the rounds of union conferences (also pasted on the green party thread)

https://nitter.net/daisyeastlake/status/2038305056597098514#m

Essentially hustling for the cashflow that would have been Your Party's had they been coherent.

Has Zarah returned the funds yet?

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