Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 2

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Zack Polanski is making things bigger again.

We need a new thread to discuss all his antics and the ongoing situation in the Green party which is getting more ever more bizarre. While it is getting ever strident in denying biology it also has Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it.

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration,(https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ ) continues and the court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing.

In Bristol the Women of Wessex are causing panic amongst the ruling Green council just by turning up and asking questions. This may result in another court case.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued

With local elections in May and elections in Wales incoming lots more to discuss and call out.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of Hypno Boobs:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

I know we shouldn't really encourage AI, but dear Lord, I would love to see an animation of the councillors shuffling round a circle of chairs with pipe bands giving it some serious welly behind them.

As will the cat's funeral, presumably.

I'm not sure you would get a sharp enough stopping of the music with the drone of pipes.

The cat was really lovely. Locals and tourists adored him, and I was sad too when the news of his death came. It's just such a strange thing for a councillor to focus on with everything else going on (like 9.8 % increase in council tax) and to ask people to donate money for.

Why is she doing the Liam Madigan hand thing?!

Another Tory defection to Reform!

Councillors will have their eccentricities. I can remember the times when DUP councillors had a Kim Jong Un style mania for naming streets and municipal buildings after Peter Robinson. That seems to have stopped when Robbo became the ex-leader.

I suppose, when you consider the causes councillors could be adopting, we can live with the odd Greyfriars Bobby type memorial.

A literal dead cat strategy.

I bet Green Party candidates in the Council Elections do not whang on about banning Greyhound Racing when they stand in areas where there is a Greyhound Track.

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Actual footage

Working theory: Scottish Greens are poisoning cats as a distraction technique.

I don't know, I'm starting to feel that if Labour collapses - and god knows it deserves to - the left side of UK politics will be about seven orders of magnitude stupider than it already is. If Labour is the Muppet Show, then GPEW is Elmo's World.

The caption: “How I walk to work knowing the Establishment are terrified of me xx”. She was walking in the opposite direction to Parliament.

First, she’s a massive narcissist to think anyone is terrified of her. Second, she needs to check her facts before making sweeping statements to the world. Both seem to represent the Green Party now. What a waste.

I'm female thank you if you're referring to me.

Chris, you know very well that you were born male & thus remain male as changing sex is impossible.

I’ve just cringed myself inside out. Help.

The Zackonomics outlined by ZP in a recent speech turns out to be

Zack Polanski’s economic agenda is dangerous…and popular

https://archive.is/khCwF

Zackonomics is incoherent and outdated

https://thecritic.co.uk/zackonomics-is-incoherent-and-outdated/

Is the Green Party still “green” in any meaningful way?
Zack Polanski has taken the party away from its ideological foundations.

https://archive.is/HjT8W

I'd like to see a costed Green budget.

There hasn't even been an attempt since the 2024 Manifesto, I don't think.

This is the Institute for Fiscal Studies' take on that manifesto.
https://ifs.org.uk/articles/green-party-manifesto-reaction

Green Women's Declaration

GWD appreciate it when politicians like Zack admit they made mistakes

No man can grow women's breasts

His belief in quack cures for confused children is next in line for an apology, we hope MakeTruthNormalAgain
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ITVPolitics

Mar 18
I'm sorry for saying that hypnosis could make women’s breasts bigger, Green leader Zack Polanski has said Polanski said he could use his mind to enlarge breasts in a 2013 interview
^ https://x.com/GWDeclaration/status/2034694473117036765^

ZP has written a book or part of one.

Hope is Here - It’s all of us

It’s all of us - NO IT ISN'T. Women who know they exist don't get to be part of all they get kicked out of the party. Meanwhile Beardy men who think that biology exists get to be deputy leaders.
https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/483128/hope-is-here-by-politics-zack-polanski-with-bold/9780241836071

Could the Greens become Britain’s biggest party?

In fact, he’s likely to find his own party harder to manage than the media. The constitution of the Green Party of England and Wales is designed to frustrate strong leadership. There are automatic leadership elections every two years and policymaking is controlled from the bottom up by the membership. That’s fine for an idealistic fringe movement dedicated to radical democracy, but completely impractical for a party whose ambition is real power. The members who overwhelmingly voted in Polanski will have to decide whether they want an actual leader or a mere spokesperson. More truculent activists would be better suited to Your Party, which serves as an example of where too much grassroots control gets you.

Assuming the Greens don’t fall prey to self-sabotage, the biggest risk they face is gaining power prematurely. For instance, a polling projection featured in the Birmingham Mail suggests that a coalition of Greens and Muslim independents would have the numbers to take control of Birmingham City Council. But that could prove a poisoned chalice. England’s second city is in crisis: the Labour-run council has only just emerged from bankruptcy at the cost of massive cuts and bin workers have been on strike for a year. The Greens would therefore be taking on a much tougher challenge than running Brighton or Bristol.

https://unherd.com/newsroom/could-the-greens-become-britains-biggest-party/

Terrifying stuff there could be Green Gaza Indy coalition ruling Birmingham

Exclusive shock poll predicts local elections 'wipeout' for Labour in Birmingham
Birmingham City Council will be changed beyond all recognition from May according to first local poll
https://archive.is/wNNPO#
Expected Birmingham City Council result (as polled at start of March, 2026)

No Overall Control
Other/Independents: 31 seats (+20)
Greens: 22 seats (+20)
^^
Reform UK: 19 seats (+19)
Labour: 11 seats (-41)
Conservatives: 10 seats (-11)
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Liberal Democrats: 8 seats (-5)

Terrifying stuff there could be Green Gaza Indy coalition ruling Birmingham

I would feel very sorry for the residents of Brummagem, obviously, but for the rest of the England that could be a very good thing.

A Green/Gaza+ adminstration making a pig's ear of running the city, and probably ending up tearing chunks out of each other, would provide a salutary lesson for those considering voting Green at the next GE.

Ayoub Khan the Gaza Indy MP in Birmingham wanted the army called in to break up the bin strikes.

Be interesting to see if this means other Concerned Local Bruvver Akhmed Yakoob gets involved. He's been arrested for racially abusing a police officer but I'm sure the greens would style it out

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c86e9x61qg2o

Rumblings in Norfolk

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/25967723.norfolk-green-quits-zack-polanski-populist-policies/?ref=rss

Good for de Whalley! He's not the only GPEW activist unhappy with the direction in which Polanski is taking the party, but as a non-member it's impossible to gauge how many of the activist old guard have enough qualms to quit. Not many, is my guess. That might change if the wave of new Green councillors doesn't pursue green policies, but a lot depends on selection. Elected GPEW reps aren't subject to a party whip (although they do face mandatory reselection by the local membership).

I get the impression most sceptics are sitting tight until they see what happens come a national election or have already decided to wait out the Polanski era and be there for the rebuild.