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Your Corbyn/Sultana Party - Discussion thread - Part 3

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fromorbit · 23/01/2026 07:54

Welcome to Part 3 of Mumsnet charting the drama inside Your Party. We have followed YP from the start when it looked liked it might be a major player to its ongoing internal row which has left it struggling.

We have the best and funniest commentary on British hard left wing politics, looking not just at YP itself, but wider issues plaguing the left. Dominated by the problem which weirdly didn't worry Marx, the Chartists, Anarchists, Trade Unionists, even Communist regimes, or much of the long history of left wing feminists, but suddenly in the last ten or so years has become huge. Is Human biology a thing ? Are men in dresses the most oppressed people on the planet even if they are billionaires?

Currently we are looking at Your Party internal elections which have been dominated by the split between the Corbyn and Sultana factions who have different visions of how the party should look. Summarised here:

Your Party? Whose elections?
https://www.workersliberty.org/story/2026-01-21/your-party-whose-elections?language_content_entity=en

Sultana's Grassroots Left slate not only added Corbyn without permission but others. It seems they are being denounced for undemocratic manoeuvres.

Fractures amongst Sultana's shadow caucus have opened up
https://skidrowradio.substack.com/p/the-slate-that-wasnt

As always the Men in Dresses have outsize importance. The Trans Liberation group are backing the Sultanate Grassroots Left faction, but things as always are messy.

The set up of the YP voting also means there are male and female posts in each region. The non binary types are claiming this is unfair what about them:
Is this trolling? LGBTQIA+ group demand "non-binary" CEC spots
A Your Party clique is infuriated that non-men/women isn't a category for the elections.
https://skidrowradio.substack.com/p/is-this-trolling-lgbtqia-group-demand

There is plenty more crazy to come.

Your Corbyn/Sultana Party - Discussion thread - Part 1
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5394557-your-corbynsultana-party-discussion-thread

Your Corbyn/Sultana Party - Discussion thread - Part 2
All about the conference and run up which really saw YP faction fighting intensify. Highlights included a Scottish "trans" male sex pest berating the conference.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5440730-your-corbynsultana-party-discussion-thread-part-2?page=1

people's party

Your Party? Whose elections?

Edited 21.1.26 with updates. Ruth Cashman, a regular writer for Solidarity, was initially banned from standing for the Central Executive Committee of Your Party on grounds that YP rules exclude members of “other national political parties”. She appeale...

https://www.workersliberty.org/story/2026-01-21/your-party-whose-elections?language_content_entity=en

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Lalgarh · 19/07/2026 10:58

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/07/2026 01:33

Very interesting. I lolled at some of the joke entries, did the petition get advertised somewhere very edgelordy?

Don't think so. Well, twitter and Bluesky

AimsAndObjectives · 23/07/2026 19:17

Finally something TRAs and GC women can agree on? SWP are shit

Lalgarh · 23/07/2026 19:18

Good on them.

SWP god tier gaslighting:

“We have never been disruptive, disrespectful or dehumanising to the organisers and we’re confused as to why they’ve said that. Our members, including trans+ people, go on the march each year to stand united the avalanche of transphobia.

“We’re proud that when too many organisations are silent, or duck the question, the SWP is 100% for trans+ rights and is part of the movement fighting for them in our workplaces and communities.

“At a time when the far right are a danger to trans+ people, and when the British state is attacking our right to exist, we hope this year’s trans+ pride is one of the biggest yet.”

Tldr: trans pride are wrong and we're going anyway

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/07/2026 21:25

AimsAndObjectives · 23/07/2026 19:17

Finally something TRAs and GC women can agree on? SWP are shit

I might post it on that relevant thread.

Lalgarh · 23/07/2026 22:27

Looks like Sheffield contingent told them to fuck off too

https://nitter.net/charles_hart/status/2079522097156563303#m

As did Manchester assembly last year in this posters follow up tweet

moto748e · 23/07/2026 22:46

It's pretty funny.

Lalgarh · 23/07/2026 22:57

You can sense the mock concern from the comrade. "We're confused as to why they think that..".

= "We're sorry YOU feel that way"

They must be itching to say "after. all. We've. Done. For. You.."

fromorbit · 24/07/2026 07:38

Hilarious. Booted out of YP now Pride. What next for SWP banned from Palestine demo? That will really sting.

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Lalgarh · 24/07/2026 08:31

There is already a schism in pro Pal activism. I posted in an earlier thread, but those that consider themselves "authentic" (ie Muslim/ Arab) supporters of Palestine are convinced that the Palestine Solidarity committee (fronted by keffiyeh wearing Christian Palestinian trot Ben Jamal) are a front for mossad and urge say young Muslims to affiliate to more Islamic based organisations who don't "compromise with Zionist structures", whatever that is.

The poster girl for the UK Intifada the Palestinian surgeon Rahmeh Aladwan was championed by Zack Polanski and assorted lefties in Your Party even after she started up with blatant anti Jewish hate speech including linking Polanski to usury.

She's not exactly hoping Palestine will be a socialist furry inclusive utopia Zarah Sultana was advocating for

https://nitter.net/doctor_rahmeh/status/1988558714190594339#m

1984Now · 09/08/2026 12:18

Lalgarh · 09/08/2026 12:08

A heroic defence of Jason Arday from the socialist worker

https://socialistworker.co.uk/anti-racism/jason-arday-the-right-wants-to-make-unis-echo-chambers-for-their-ideas/

"The bagging of Arday is only the first step to a new, right wing utopia".

Surely they mean dystopia?

Ah, right, another "they're all doing it, so why is the black man victimized?" And of course, they have their pre-prepared narrative.
Strangely enough, the same narrative re men in women's spaces
"Men are en masse abusing, so why pick on men IDing as women, and worse for them, they're not men actually, they're women"
Yes, the world is going to Hell in a handcart, so we should just let cheating and lying from Arday go by the wayside.
Ditto men are abusing women anyhow, so we should let cheating and lying of a subset of men to get heir way into women's spaces go by the wayside.

IwantToRetire · 14/08/2026 19:00

(Have not been on this thread, so this may have been published but on facebook today dated 14 Augus. (I'm assuming it this Your Party and not some other manifestation!)

Why we are resigning from the CEC of Your Party – a statement from Solma Ahmed, Sophie Wilson and Naomi Wimborne-Idrissi – 14.08.2026

This is a letter we never wanted to write. We have resisted and delayed, hoping against hope that we would be able to find a positive route forward, but recent developments have forced our hands. We are unable to stay true to our socialist and democratic principles and remain members of Your Party’s Central Executive Committee.

We were privileged to be elected to represent YP members on the CEC formed in March 2026. Our goal, shared with thousands of other active, committed socialists across the UK, was to build a mass organisation to speak for working class people betrayed by the established political parties. We had an historic opportunity to galvanise people from across the political spectrum left of Labour, to fight the rising fascist menace, environmental catastrophe and the breakdown of international law, and to unite around issues important to people’s daily lives.

We were enthused by the prospect of being part of the collective leadership voted for by the party’s founding conference five months earlier. To our dismay it quickly appeared that our enthusiasm did not seem to be shared by a significant number of leading figures in YP. We felt that the comradely interactions, openness, transparency and accountability which must be at the heart of a democratic, member-led party were absent from the CEC from the start. The committee was dominated by a group that had taken control of the bureaucratic machinery of the party before the elections and then won a sufficient majority of elected seats to dominate all officers’ positions. It headed a tightly-controlled, top-down operation, excluding us from decision-making processes regarding all important areas of policy and governance.

There have been no official published minutes since the first full meeting on March 8. Since then, the party chair has sent out her own superficial reports. Votes are not recorded despite our repeated requests that they should be. We have taken it upon ourselves to inform members of the actual content of meetings by circulating our own reports, acting properly at all times and in what we sincerely believed was in the best interests of members. For this we have been threatened with disciplinary action for breaching confidentiality.

We have pointed out the absurdity of CEC members having no means of communicating with one another or with members in the regions they were elected to represent. We have protested at the lack of opportunity to properly discuss or question documents presented at short notice on agendas over which we had no influence. For this we have been accused of filibustering.

We have had amendments intended to enhance proper accountability and transparency ruled out of order or voted down. We, and therefore the members we represent, have been kept in the dark about party finances, staff appointments, recruitment and pay, membership numbers, the rationale behind decisions on branch formation and electoral policy, and much more. We participated in local YP branch launches despite having been excluded, along with the potential members of those branches, from their formation planning.

We have seen complaints of serious misconduct, including by senior party staff, brushed aside and when complainants persisted, subjected to what we felt were biased investigations with unjust outcomes.

Although we are members of the party’s governing body, we have been powerless to halt the unceasing betrayal of democracy and openness, carried out in a bullying and abusive manner by members of the controlling group, often hiding behind anonymous emails such as “CEC Team” or “Complaints Team.” It was only the dedication of members who were desperate to make a success of YP that persuaded us to stay until now.

On July 3, three CEC members received letters suspending them from attending a CEC meeting on July 5. On July 6, we learned that CEC members had been denied knowledge of a serious risk that we, and possibly grassroots members, might face onerous personal liabilities as a result of unresolved governance issues. These are referred to obliquely in Jenn Forbes’ July 2026 report to members as “serious items around liability, insurance, indemnity and data protection”. This, combined with mounting examples of anti-democratic behaviour by the controlling group, prompted seven previously loyal CEC members, including three officers, to join seven others at a special meeting on July 12. It resulted in votes of no confidence in the chair, secretary and membership officer.

Three officers and one other CEC member resigned from the committee during July, but the three in whom a clear majority of CEC members had declared no confidence continue to cling to their positions, issuing pronouncements denying the legitimacy of the special meeting.

Only now have we been offered individual @yourparty.uk addresses, on condition that we sign non-negotiable non-disclosure agreements. Agendas for recent CEC meetings that were postponed or rendered inquorate included plans for a second national conference in the autumn at which, if it happens, we fear that YP will scrap collective leadership and entrench the disastrous top-down bureaucratic model we have struggled with so far.

In these circumstances we cannot in good conscience continue as members of the CEC.

Our future as individuals is of little significance, but the damage done to the serious left in the UK by misdirecting the energy of so many great activists at such a critical period is incalculable. The controlling group presides as Your Party sheds members, making a once-hopeful initiative irrelevant in a political landscape dominated by Burnham, Farage and Polanski. It is tragic that Jeremy Corbyn, whom we have long admired, supported and defended against right-wing attacks, seems incapable of distancing himself from such a misconceived project.

It’s shameful that so little of the argument since the November 2025 conference has been about the principles and politics that should underpin our efforts. But this is not a superficial tit-for-tat battle between factions or clashing personalities. It is a rift between bureaucrats whose priority is running a parliamentary party with loyal, unquestioning foot-soldiers at local level, and class-conscious activists striving to build a movement which empowers the grassroots through democratic, transparent, accountable campaigning institutions.

Our intention now is to use all the connections we have to support socialists, including valued comrades still on the CEC, working to hold together the many strands of our movement, until new opportunities arise to build the inclusive, mass party that the working class needs.

Signed:

Solma Ahmed, East of England CEC representative

Sophie Wilson, Yorkshire & The Humber CEC representative

Naomi Wimborne-Idrissi, South East CEC representative

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/08/2026 19:09

Who knew there were any of them left to resign!

Lalgarh · 14/08/2026 19:37

Wimbourne Idrissi is the one who chained herself to railings over a parking ticket

From earlier

https://nitter.net/ArmchairBard/status/2075909384618537362#m

Thought I'd check Charlie Mansell if there's any reports around this. There is a link to a niche leftie magazine with A Long Essay on how Your Party "was never a vehicle for socialist unity but an electoral resource-allocation mechanism; Grassroots Left’s failures didn’t cause this, but the structural design and Corbyn’s centrality."

https://prometheus-mag.com/2026/08/14/there-was-never-going-to-be-left-unity-in-your-party/
And they've got a summer party next week! Cant wait!

https://nitter.net/prometheus_mag/status/2083935777671573714#m

There Was Never Going To Be Left Unity In Your Party - Prometheus Magazine

Clara Hill argues Your Party was never a vehicle for socialist unity but a resource-allocation mechanism for Independents; Grassroots Left's failures didn't cause this but the structural design and Corbyn's centrality made it inevitable.

https://prometheus-mag.com/2026/08/14/there-was-never-going-to-be-left-unity-in-your-party/

Shortshriftandlethal · 14/08/2026 20:39

Personally what interests me most in the whole Arday business is that since the cracks have started to appear in trans ideology and in the politics of 'gender identity', so too are the cracks in many of the other edifices of 'intersectional 'identity politics. I've always thought that trans ideology was the absolute apotheosis of all of this sociological bullshit; and I speak as someone who has a degree in Sociology - studied just before 'Women's Studies' morphed into 'Gender Studies'.

Anyone who understands the rules of the various 'games', and who can can riff and bullshit, with confidence, can get by and be taken seriously in Sociology.
How embarrassing that the emperor actually has no clothes and that so many of those supposedly of superior qualification and intellect can be so utterly vacuous.

Shortshriftandlethal · 14/08/2026 20:41

Truly sorry to hear that Arday has been found dead. He really has been a victim in all of this. It was unfortunate that it became so personal and with so much focus on him and his personal character, rather than on the system and ideology that utilised him.

1984Now · 14/08/2026 21:06

IwantToRetire · 14/08/2026 19:00

(Have not been on this thread, so this may have been published but on facebook today dated 14 Augus. (I'm assuming it this Your Party and not some other manifestation!)

Why we are resigning from the CEC of Your Party – a statement from Solma Ahmed, Sophie Wilson and Naomi Wimborne-Idrissi – 14.08.2026

This is a letter we never wanted to write. We have resisted and delayed, hoping against hope that we would be able to find a positive route forward, but recent developments have forced our hands. We are unable to stay true to our socialist and democratic principles and remain members of Your Party’s Central Executive Committee.

We were privileged to be elected to represent YP members on the CEC formed in March 2026. Our goal, shared with thousands of other active, committed socialists across the UK, was to build a mass organisation to speak for working class people betrayed by the established political parties. We had an historic opportunity to galvanise people from across the political spectrum left of Labour, to fight the rising fascist menace, environmental catastrophe and the breakdown of international law, and to unite around issues important to people’s daily lives.

We were enthused by the prospect of being part of the collective leadership voted for by the party’s founding conference five months earlier. To our dismay it quickly appeared that our enthusiasm did not seem to be shared by a significant number of leading figures in YP. We felt that the comradely interactions, openness, transparency and accountability which must be at the heart of a democratic, member-led party were absent from the CEC from the start. The committee was dominated by a group that had taken control of the bureaucratic machinery of the party before the elections and then won a sufficient majority of elected seats to dominate all officers’ positions. It headed a tightly-controlled, top-down operation, excluding us from decision-making processes regarding all important areas of policy and governance.

There have been no official published minutes since the first full meeting on March 8. Since then, the party chair has sent out her own superficial reports. Votes are not recorded despite our repeated requests that they should be. We have taken it upon ourselves to inform members of the actual content of meetings by circulating our own reports, acting properly at all times and in what we sincerely believed was in the best interests of members. For this we have been threatened with disciplinary action for breaching confidentiality.

We have pointed out the absurdity of CEC members having no means of communicating with one another or with members in the regions they were elected to represent. We have protested at the lack of opportunity to properly discuss or question documents presented at short notice on agendas over which we had no influence. For this we have been accused of filibustering.

We have had amendments intended to enhance proper accountability and transparency ruled out of order or voted down. We, and therefore the members we represent, have been kept in the dark about party finances, staff appointments, recruitment and pay, membership numbers, the rationale behind decisions on branch formation and electoral policy, and much more. We participated in local YP branch launches despite having been excluded, along with the potential members of those branches, from their formation planning.

We have seen complaints of serious misconduct, including by senior party staff, brushed aside and when complainants persisted, subjected to what we felt were biased investigations with unjust outcomes.

Although we are members of the party’s governing body, we have been powerless to halt the unceasing betrayal of democracy and openness, carried out in a bullying and abusive manner by members of the controlling group, often hiding behind anonymous emails such as “CEC Team” or “Complaints Team.” It was only the dedication of members who were desperate to make a success of YP that persuaded us to stay until now.

On July 3, three CEC members received letters suspending them from attending a CEC meeting on July 5. On July 6, we learned that CEC members had been denied knowledge of a serious risk that we, and possibly grassroots members, might face onerous personal liabilities as a result of unresolved governance issues. These are referred to obliquely in Jenn Forbes’ July 2026 report to members as “serious items around liability, insurance, indemnity and data protection”. This, combined with mounting examples of anti-democratic behaviour by the controlling group, prompted seven previously loyal CEC members, including three officers, to join seven others at a special meeting on July 12. It resulted in votes of no confidence in the chair, secretary and membership officer.

Three officers and one other CEC member resigned from the committee during July, but the three in whom a clear majority of CEC members had declared no confidence continue to cling to their positions, issuing pronouncements denying the legitimacy of the special meeting.

Only now have we been offered individual @yourparty.uk addresses, on condition that we sign non-negotiable non-disclosure agreements. Agendas for recent CEC meetings that were postponed or rendered inquorate included plans for a second national conference in the autumn at which, if it happens, we fear that YP will scrap collective leadership and entrench the disastrous top-down bureaucratic model we have struggled with so far.

In these circumstances we cannot in good conscience continue as members of the CEC.

Our future as individuals is of little significance, but the damage done to the serious left in the UK by misdirecting the energy of so many great activists at such a critical period is incalculable. The controlling group presides as Your Party sheds members, making a once-hopeful initiative irrelevant in a political landscape dominated by Burnham, Farage and Polanski. It is tragic that Jeremy Corbyn, whom we have long admired, supported and defended against right-wing attacks, seems incapable of distancing himself from such a misconceived project.

It’s shameful that so little of the argument since the November 2025 conference has been about the principles and politics that should underpin our efforts. But this is not a superficial tit-for-tat battle between factions or clashing personalities. It is a rift between bureaucrats whose priority is running a parliamentary party with loyal, unquestioning foot-soldiers at local level, and class-conscious activists striving to build a movement which empowers the grassroots through democratic, transparent, accountable campaigning institutions.

Our intention now is to use all the connections we have to support socialists, including valued comrades still on the CEC, working to hold together the many strands of our movement, until new opportunities arise to build the inclusive, mass party that the working class needs.

Signed:

Solma Ahmed, East of England CEC representative

Sophie Wilson, Yorkshire & The Humber CEC representative

Naomi Wimborne-Idrissi, South East CEC representative

So, Your Party is the same as Every Other Party Out There That Has Ever Been And Will Ever Be.

lcakethereforeIam · 14/08/2026 23:01

Bump

Lalgarh · 22/08/2026 23:08

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