Your Corbyn/Sultana Party - Discussion thread - Part 3

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Welcome to Part 3 of Mumsnet charting the drama inside Your Party. We have followed YP from the start when it looked liked it might be a major player to its ongoing internal row which has left it struggling.

We have the best and funniest commentary on British hard left wing politics, looking not just at YP itself, but wider issues plaguing the left. Dominated by the problem which weirdly didn't worry Marx, the Chartists, Anarchists, Trade Unionists, even Communist regimes, or much of the long history of left wing feminists, but suddenly in the last ten or so years has become huge. Is Human biology a thing ? Are men in dresses the most oppressed people on the planet even if they are billionaires?

Currently we are looking at Your Party internal elections which have been dominated by the split between the Corbyn and Sultana factions who have different visions of how the party should look. Summarised here:

Your Party? Whose elections?
https://www.workersliberty.org/story/2026-01-21/your-party-whose-elections?language_content_entity=en

Sultana's Grassroots Left slate not only added Corbyn without permission but others. It seems they are being denounced for undemocratic manoeuvres.

Fractures amongst Sultana's shadow caucus have opened up
https://skidrowradio.substack.com/p/the-slate-that-wasnt

As always the Men in Dresses have outsize importance. The Trans Liberation group are backing the Sultanate Grassroots Left faction, but things as always are messy.

The set up of the YP voting also means there are male and female posts in each region. The non binary types are claiming this is unfair what about them:
Is this trolling? LGBTQIA+ group demand "non-binary" CEC spots
A Your Party clique is infuriated that non-men/women isn't a category for the elections.
https://skidrowradio.substack.com/p/is-this-trolling-lgbtqia-group-demand

There is plenty more crazy to come.

Your Corbyn/Sultana Party - Discussion thread - Part 1
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5394557-your-corbynsultana-party-discussion-thread

Your Corbyn/Sultana Party - Discussion thread - Part 2
All about the conference and run up which really saw YP faction fighting intensify. Highlights included a Scottish "trans" male sex pest berating the conference.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5440730-your-corbynsultana-party-discussion-thread-part-2?page=1

That corner of the chamber, with Corbyn and the Gaza MPs in the back row and the Reform MPs sitting in front of them, seems to be the House's naughty step. There's a lot of banter goes on. Ideology aside, they seem to get on reasonably well on a personal basis.

I've seen Rosie Duffield sitting there. Also Tim Farron, who seems to find it much more fun than hanging out with the Lib Dems.

I rarely see Sultana in the chamber. When she speaks, she often seems to come in late in a debate when there aren't many MPs around. I would feel sorry for her, but working with others is a key skill in politics and she doesn't have it.

From Maddie Grant's Spectator sketch:

Some MPs were actually prepared to name the large, grey, trunk-bearing mammal in the room and point out that the Prime Minister was almost certainly lying. To do so is considered un-parliamentary behaviour and so risks a chucking-out even if it is akin to looking up and commenting that what’s above you is a colour somewhere between Cyan and Magenta. Lee Anderson said the PM ‘couldn’t lie straight in bed’, which he was made to retract before being turfed out of the Commons.

Braver was Zarah Sultana, who repeated the claim that the PM was lying, to an incandescent Hoyle, who not only chucked her out but suspended her from the House, meaning five days’ banishment without pay. Quite the punishment for stating the obvious.

One wonders what she and Lee chatted about in the sin bin but then Starmer’s shamelessness has made some odd bedfellows. Corbynistas nodded along to Mrs Badenoch, the SNP cheered DUP questions, the Tories were in total thrall to Diane Abbott. Maybe the real friends were the ones we made along the way? It was like an unlikely Disney buddy film, all brought together by contempt for one man’s naked shamelessness. Sweet, eh?

Delicious! 😀

Sultana has also come to the attention of JK Rowling

https://nitter.net/jk_rowling/status/2049590762325630988#m

Zara calling Starmer a liar is the perfect meme of a stuck clock telling the time correctly at least once a day.

I assume Zarah is talking about a different intifada that goes to another school.

YP booting out the SWP is justified by Webb as better socialism and gets into opposing vanguardism:

Your Party: what kind of socialist party does the British working class actually need in 2026?
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/your-party-what-kind-socialist-party-does-british-working-class-actually-need-2026

Counter argument:

Your Party is weaker without the revolutionary left
https://www.counterfire.org/article/your-party-is-weaker-without-the-revolutionary-left/

Practical experience would indicate that not having a bunch of perianal losers involved would help.

I don't know what's worse about the revolutionary left...that they'll freeze you to death, or bore you to death?

Who knew Claudia Webbe was an intellectual pontificating on the future of socialism. It's just the capitalist fash media that knows her as the fckn deranged scorned vitriol plotter. I totally didn't read the factoids in that and think "that's chat GPT"

Corbyn backed Newham independents attacking the greens as pro DrUgkz. Stats for lefties outraged

https://nitter.net/LeftieStats/status/2049926764332474786#m

(They've now deleted)

Stats for Lefties will get quite a shocker if he ever meets East End Muslims.

Mehmood Mirza has been very good at bigging himself up as the socialist alternative to Labour, and posing for photos with Corbzy, but he's not given up his laser like focus on parking charges and LTNs.

...and the grooming gangs as the nasty little open secret none of them will talk about...

Huge gain for the Greens. Crazy group switches sides.Really Over for YP now.

The Revolutionary Communist Party abandons Corbyn only to embrace Zack Polanski’s Green Party
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/05/04/gjai-m04.html

Oh some last minute entryism.

The Decca Aitkenhead interview with ZP in the times mentioned “Not once in our conversation is there any mention of class struggle, capital versus labour — or, for that matter, even wages.
It dawns on me that Polanski is the first British party leader to have been forged entirely through the prism of identity politics"

nitter.net/SoniaRGallego/status/2051249026872353260#m

He was on the radio now quoting An Economist I didn't quite catch and said he's still learning. Prepare to be bored into coma little Zack

Tower Hamlets (Aspire, the YP backers) are up for election this time. This could have been a case where the greens could actively chomp into YPs base

Although Stats For Lefties is somehow hoping Aspire keeping Tower Hamlets will be a kick in the teeth to Reform

https://nitter.net/LeftieStats/status/2052550435190276579#m

How do people think the council election results will shape things over the next couple of years?

I can't stand the way he just parrots quotes from writers.
Months ago I read someone "eminent" say that countries don't have rights to exist, and hey presto, what did I hear come out of the clown's mouth this week?
You guessed it.

I suppose that will depend on what the voters are expecting from their councillors and their council. If councils don't deliver positive observable results then the votes lent to the newly resurgent parties would quickly evaporate - in my view.

Newham independents (backed by Your Party) and your party "disappointed" with greens for splitting the vote and letting Labour in for Newham Mayor

https://nitter.net/meganekenyon/status/2052764752393191574#m

A source told me: "It's bitterly disappointing that the greens split the vote and let Labour through." Cited Your Party standing aside in Gorton and Denton. "Would hope this could be reciprocated elsewhere so we could unite to defeat Labour".

Just can't find the comrades these days

The thing is, Mehmood Mirza and Areeq Chowdhury were appealing to very different electorates. I can't imagine Mehmood having a strong appeal to Stratford hipsters.

Areeq's performance will however give credence to the rumours that the Stratford and Bow parliamentary candidacy is being kept warm for Zack.

YP backed a stack of independent activists at the local elections

https://www.yourparty.uk/independent-candidates-supported-by-your-party/

Groups including Aspire

https://www.yourparty.uk/independent-candidates-supported-by-your-party/

Dribs and drabs on which ones have won council seats, based on looking at their Twitter. Aspire have won again in Tower Hamlets.
https://nitter.net/jeremycorbyn/status/2052803459670306903#m

In Bradford, it actually looks like Reform now have the most councillors and might be on the cusp of taking overall control.

Why, it's almost as if siphoning off disaffected Gaza orientated Muslim voters to a sectional interest party actively helps produce a significantly worse outcome for communities as a whole

Newham is split three ways. Last election was 64 Labour and 2 Green, a change in itself after years of being a one-party state.

The new council is 26 Labour, 24 NIP and 16 Green. How the council will function is anyone's guess, and I'm not sure it helps matters that the NIP and Green groups contain Labour defectors.

More defections are coming, I suspect.

Birmingham looking also like it will be Reform majority. There was expectation that the greens and Gaza independents (including dimwit gangsta Dawah bro Akhmed Yakoob) would dominate

https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/info/50382/2026_elections

That Crescent 🌙 Rainbow 🌈 unity in full
https://nitter.net/TheNewsAgents/status/2052448376885563825#m

Bradford looking like Reform will come out on top there too.