Dylan Mulvaney cast as Anne Boleyn

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Came up on fb and thought it was satire to start with! Would put me off going to see it tbh

So a woman who is famous for being tortured and murdered by a man due to a biologoical process she had no agency over. Is now being aped by a male who has culterally appropriated and colonised the biology she couldnt escape - in a lighthearted and humorous way. Sounds utterly repulsive to me.

Indeed - well said!

Agreed. I enjoyed SIX but I hated the characterisation of Anne Boleyn.

DM’s wiki entry refers to him as an ‘actress’ even though most actual actresses seem to be referred to as actors these days. 🙄

Pretty much everything Mulvaney does is repulsive

I've seen press articles do this with trans actors too. Basically nowadays if you're an 'actress' it's usually a bloke.

Must admit I am enjoying all the allies self-owning themselves by pointing out male actors in 16/17th century played female characters too.

Hahaha!

Why? She seems lovely.

Having a woman from a.marginalised, persecuted minority makes total sense, given Anne's outsider status, very precarious existence and tragic death.

Anne was defined by her fertility, blamed for her husband's deficiencies and yet was an incredibly important figure in the Reformation. She was far more than her marriage, a very clever and skilful courtier.

Besides, you don't have to be what you portray. There was a love square in Emmerdale recently - not one of the male actors involved is gay, but it didn't affect their performance. Todd in Corrie, Ben and Callum in EE - none of them gay.

Dylan is a woman, playing a woman, who's experienced misogyny and being defined by her anatomy. She's also a fab actor. All sounds good to me.

The tunes are nice and catchy and I appreciated the last part where they come to the conclusion to stop framing themselves around the man they were forced to marry and they were people in their own right. They then sing a song about how their lives could have turned out if they could have made their own choices.

Fluffy piece and historically underwhelming yes, but also a good message that the creators have now ruined completely.

*Dylan is a woman, playing a woman, who's experienced misogyny and being defined by her anatomy. She's also a fab actor. All sounds good to me.^

Dylan is a man. He is not a woman, has never been a woman, and never will be a woman.

Do you really imagine that if you tell a lie often enough we'll start believing it?

Oh stop it. You clearly haven't read the thread to see how insulting this casting is to women. Comparing Anne Boleyn to a man. As if her life would have turned out this way if she had been born a boy

Dylan is a man who cringingly calls vaginas Barbie pouches

How do you feel about minstrel shows?

And wants to 'normalise the bulge' vomvomvom.

@TransParentlyAnnoyed knows perfectly well that Dylan isn't a woman. All TRAs and handmaidens do. If they didn't, they'd occasionally support real women, even by accident.

Yeah I know, it's just wind up for windup's sake.

Nonetheless, when it comes to refuting this nonsense and being given the opportunity to keep showing up the misogyny of men like Mulvaney, my patience is fairly inexhaustible. 😄

Dyan is not a woman.

Saying he is does not make him one, and you are trivialising the genuine history of marginalised women - twice marginalised, because one is marginalised relative to men simply for being a woman in the first place - to pretend this simpering clown in any way represents the reality of womanhood.

I truly hope you are just saying this because you feel you should, because if Dylan truly represents what you think women are you have very sexist ideas about womanhood.

That's the nub of it really. Man appropriating womanhood have no concept at all of how different their lives would be if they faced the actual social and professional barriers women do.

Mr Mulvaney's simpering antics wouldn't have taken an actual woman to the Whitehouse or Broadway, I can tell you that. Being feted as a trans woman privilege is a purely male privilege.

AB in six is portrayed as a parody of a shallow looks obsessed, SM obsessed contemporary young woman.
She gloats that she is more attractive and better than other women, and has little to no empathy with them. In one uncomfortable scene, the character refers to repeated miscarriage as though it was equal in importance to not being 'fit'.
The portrayal is about as far from the reality of AB as DM's portrayal of 'femininity' is from being a woman, more akin to Vicky Pollard than to a skilled and clever courtier.
For this reason, while it's a great shame to see a female part allocated to a man, I'm inclined to agree that DM may be a natural for the role as written.

I feel kind of sorry for Dylan Mulvaney. He was so desperate for 'fame'. The only way he's managed to achieve it has been to appropriate womanhood. I don't believe for a single minute he has gender dysphoria. It's just been a means to an end. So he's having to play the role of a lifetime. Being a woman.
Long term, at what cost to his psyche?

Wow. Okay, then.

Its true. I enjoyed six, but the more I think about it, as a result if this thread, the more I see that the whole thing is a parody of women. All the Queens are basically one or other stereotype of modern women, and in the case of AB, a particularly unflattering one.
I can actually see now that its not unlike drag in that respect, so yeah, OK then.

It was almost inevitable given the writers of Six and Broadway's pro-Trans sentiment that this was coming at some point. Shame because I do enjoy the musical - seen it in the West End a couple of times and we've got tickets for the touring production this year as well.

I don't kid myself it's any work of historical accuracy and greatness - it's just got some damn good bops in it, same as Hamilton (which I also love). It has a bloody odd fanbase though who will start fights on the internet over who has played which Queen better over the years (in case of any arguments - Thao - outgoing West End cast - was the best Boleyn)