Dylan Mulvaney cast as Anne Boleyn

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Came up on fb and thought it was satire to start with! Would put me off going to see it tbh

Wouldn't waste your money on Six anyway, absolute bag of shite even with 6 women. So many better shows to spend your hard earned cash on.

JMO!

Perhaps this is the start of a whole new stage career for Dylan where he builds on presenting as something he isn't. A bit of blackface and hey presto, he becomes Martin Luther King. A whole play spent walking on his knees and abracadabra, he's Louis XVII. The possibilities for identifying as other protected characteristics are endless for our boy Dyl.

Him.

I think there's still a meaningful difference between women playing women in an all woman show that plays around with stereotypes, and men who clsim to be women in real life because they act out female stereotypes playing women in the same show.

What have you seen Dylan actually acting in? I’m only aware of the DoG TikTok and that special from about a year ago.

I loved Six.

It would make much more sense to cast Dylan as Anne of Cleves, surely? The one who got rejected on first sight as not matching her portrait?

Ah. They're a pair of posh kids without a clue.

The entirety of genderpish, really. Finally, a way to cosplay at being victimised and 'marginalised' for people with too much money and nothing in particular to say. But I guess they can write a catchy tune?

'theater matters for that shared experience, but we're in a really interesting position right now where we're kind of at a crossroads where we can either commit to making it matter, actually, or maybe leaving it as a kind of like elite thing that like posh people with loads of money can do'

Lucy Moss.

Dylan is a woman, playing a woman, who's experienced misogyny and being defined by her anatomy.

Dylan is not a woman (which is an adult human female) Dylan is acting the part of a woman, both in his life and in this show. He's playing a character.

Dylan is not Anne Boleyn and Dylan is not a woman.

Genuinely, this is the opinion of one of my children, a drama student who rates her. I'm way too old :)

SIX is a wild Broadway show in the style of a singing contest, and she sings, so it should suit her well.

Yes i was wondering this

Yes but what has Dylan acted in?

Do you mean Dylan? If so, what else has he acted in (beyond a lager commercial that resulted in a huge fall in sales) )where he's been highly rated by a range of critics?

I know how I feel about people trivialising an organised, well-funded, centuries-long attempt at dehumanising Black people. It was a state-sponsored, slavery-enabling, Jim Crow-justifying propaganda effort.

Comparing that to trans women existing is disrespectful, deeply racist and dismissive of all that suffering. And the rape, assault, systematic injustice, apartheid and murder it enabled.

Trans women dress as they want. Some wear make-up and dresses, but many do not. Lots are gender non -conforming. They are women, and suffer exactly the same misogyny and violence as cis women.

I do not get the terf movement, seriously. Trivialising the violence of .racism (and child abuse, by misusing 'groomer ') appears everyday.

The blurb introducing him says he is “best known” for the TikTok bollocks so it seems that’s why he’s there.

I went to school with girls who called vaginas far worse than that.

Who the hell cares? I'm a mum, cis female, a carer, and have actual problems.

And 'handmaiden' lol.. Prominent terfs support Trump. The majority of people who are anti-trans dropped Neil Gaiman like a hot brick, because most have experienced abuse and would never support anyone accused.of sex crimes. However they identify.

Exactly.

Yes, I wouldn’t say that I “dropped him like a hot brick” because I already thought he was a misogynist dick. 10 points for guessing why!

They are women, and suffer exactly the same misogyny and violence as cis women

What an absolute load of bollocks. Men (regardless of how they present) will never, ever suffer the same misogyny and violence as women. Shoehorning a cis into your claim won't change that.

don’t be so ridiculous

Btw you can proclaim your woman credentials as much as you like. Firstly, that doesn’t actually mean the same to you and your mates as it does to the majority of people, and secondly, I don’t believe everything I read on the internet, and I’ll draw my own conclusions.

It's not rocket science.

You try to draw analogies with racism but you ignore the fundamental difference - black people don't want everyone to pretend they are white as if white were something meaningfully different or better, they just want society to stop unfairly limiting what black people can be.

Men wearing dresses, challenging sexist constructs of man and women, proudly appropriating feminity while saying "all this and I'm a still a man, worth as much as any other man, and must be accepted as one" would be progressive and open.

Men wearing dresses, challenging sexist constructs of man and women, proudly appropriating feminity and saying "all this means I'm actually a woman and must be treated like one" is regressive and sexist.

You don't understand because you have let people brainwash you that somehow something in trans women's minds makes them "women". You have accepted the sexist idea that being a woman is about how you think not just being part of the half of humanity that is female in all our glorious diversity.

So you start from the unjustified assumption that trans women somehow are women, but have never actually asked yourself how that can be, what does it really mean, and what it means for the half of humanity that is female to be redefined as a personality trait.

Because let's be clear, calling trans women women isn't opening up womanhood, it is reducing it. It is taking female-specific voices, experiences and perspectives out of womanhood and boxing us into being only things that can also be true of male people. And that might be good for male people, but it's very bad for us.

So you miss the battle you should be fighting and instead find yourself fighting for gender stereotypes, sexism and the suppression of female voices, history and rights.

I realise if you have a "trans" child you have to erect psychological barriers to thinking about this properly.... but try anyway. Recognise those thoughts that your mind is telling you to stay away from, be brave and face them head on, and most of all let yourself be honest!

Fantastic post @FlirtsWithRhinos 💚💜

I am generally, and in principle, in favour of actors acting - within or beyond their own identity or characteristics.

But...as said above, this is a show about women being strong and rebellious and telling their story on the face of the (murderous) misogyny of an individual man, and the whole system of the time. And in the context of fertility and the production of a male heir.

And given that there are still fewer roles for women on theatre and film, and in live bands, it was so refreshing to see a female led, female only cast and band. Telling a female story.

So BOOOOOOOO! to this casting. Got nothing against this performer per se or personally, let them take their chances within the industry and before the critics and public as they will - like every other performer.

I wasn't the one drawing analogies with racism. My reply was that comparing being trans to appalling racist propaganda was in itself racist. Seeing a trans woman in lippy you don't like is not oppression.

I am a cis woman, nearly 50, who's been gnc all her life. My trans son wears make-up and skirts - not to undermine anything but because he likes them. Because clothes and appearance are not gender.

Framing trans people as an attack on cis is seriously ignorant. All trans people are doing is getting on with their lives whilst being trans.

You know how men assume cis women dress to please or provoke them? It's exactly as untrue as that.

Trans people are attacked for wearing gendered clothing, attacked when they don't. For dressing up, or down. Sound familiar?

Trans people have lives, families, films they want to watch, kids, jobs. Their whole lives are not "being trans" as if they're on stage.

Being angry at a minority for existing is indulging in hate speech, a total waste of time, and will poison your life.