Scotland - drag queen nursery worker on trial for child sex abuse

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https://reduxx.info/scottish-drag-queen-miss-kitty-swallows-on-trial-for-child-sexual-abuse-offenses/

Paisley. This was reported late last year but without naming him. Craig Baxter aka Miss Kitty Swallows.

Drag queens aka sex clowns.

Some time ago a male nursery nurse said something like when he started
he was single so maybe a risk,
then got married so less of a risk,
then had children so probably OK,
then his children came to the nursery so definitely OK.

Not to be taken literally but it shows men have more suspicions caring for very young children and how they have more work to do allaying those suspicions. The above may lower some red flags but not completely remove the greater risk of their biological sex in an environment that women are naturally more suited for.

No worries. I still remember Mairi Black calling gender critical women 'Jeremy Hunts'. Dark times.

GoldenGate · Today 22:00
Some time ago a male nursery nurse said something like when he started

he was single so maybe a risk, yep
then got married so less of a risk, nope
then had children so probably OK, nope
then his children came to the nursery so definitely OK. Nope

A Sex Offender who is attracted to children remain attracted to children.

If that man was a CSO all he did was enter into an adult relationship to mask his sexual attraction and/or to have access to his own children.

I remember a video being posted on twitter. 😬

The irony of not understand that calling a woman a vagina to support an ideology which wanted women called a vagina-haver is not the clever insult its imagined to be🙄

It's not actually about your son, you know, much as you're trying to make it that

I have a son too, but I wouldn't be offended if parents didn't want him (or any men) working with young children in a nursery type situation, because while I know he's one of the good 'uns, they don't.

Yes – and I'm not sure that those arguments actually hold any water, honestly. They certainly don't outweigh the risks, imo. If anything, they may give children a false sense of safety around unrelated men. Male primary school teachers make far more sense as role models, with older, verbal children who don't need toileting or physical caring.

I think that at the very least, male roles at nurseries need to be limited to those that don't involve intimate care of children.

Has the BBC reported on this? They normally love to feature drag queens.

Very true. If they've not reported it maybe it's because their special drag queen team have had to take a day off to avoid the Darlington nurses success?

Which is exactly what I’ve said. Twice I think at least.

I have no issue with your view as long as if my son is caring for your child you stand by your principles and decline that care.
I have also said that I’m not going to state his profession

So what is the point of a DBS?

It's a very strange thing to say "as long as if my son is caring for your child you stand by your principles and decline that care" to people who have already said they wouldn't allow men to provide care to their young children in a nursery-type situation.

It's as if someone said, "I just don't think child-minders should have their dogs around young children", and you've come back with, "Well, I hope you'll stand by your principles and not let my lovely dog near your children, then!"

Erm...that's the entire point, and why you're so bothered. Because people wouldn't. Unless, of course, your son's mystery profession is very different to nursery work, and males in his profession haven't been shown to present such a markedly increased risk of sexual violence...in which case it's totally irrelevant and I don't know why you keep bringing it up?

You think that's suitable for young children then? I think you could be on some sort of register.

I don't know what the general rule is, but one of the workers at my daughter's nursery was a man; and he was not providing intimate care, despite his role. I know because I asked the manager - if she'd reacted at all offended or cagey, I'd have taken my daughter somewhere else.

It is blindingly obvious that anyone who wishes to don a suggestive costume in front of children shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near them.

I’m not sure whT PP is hoping for here. I too, have sons, and one is fantastic with young kids, he’d make a great role model for little boys - but, he’s a man, and unfortunately, some men behave very badly around children. So I suggested my son Should consider that when thinking about jobs. I don’t for one second think he is a problem- but that isn’t the point. A disproportionate number of men who are drawn to woe with young kids are there for unsavoury reasons - why have this argument every day for your working life? Get a job away from the nonces, make it clear you are not one.

it was good advice. Have the same chat with your son or toughen up.

@Seriestwo "A disproportionate number of men who are drawn to woe with young kids are there for unsavoury reasons - why have this argument every day for your working life? Get a job away from the nonces, make it clear you are not one."

Absolutely! My son is great with kids too, but I'd steer him away from dealing with very young children in situations where he'd provide any kind of intimate care, because I know that many parents (me included!) don't want strange men caring for their small children.

Sadly I am no longer surprised by the number of these cases. I believe that the reason that so many of these creeps manage to avoid jail time is because of the huge number of them; there is not sufficient space in the prison estate to house them all.

It is unbelievable that there wasn’t a better qualified or suitable candidate. It’s always been rare to have male employees in a nursery setting. Obviously not in schools where personal care of dc isn’t part of the job. Nursery owners cannot discriminate but they can select the best person for the job based on a well thought out job spec and person spec. I’d be amazed if this man was objectively the best person for the job.

Me to DH "If 'name of DS's primary school' booked a drag acting names Flowjob..." [I don't finish the sentence]
DH interrupting me with force "Nope. Just nope"
Me to DH "Well in Scotland..."

His face was an absolute picture. He was somewhat sweary.

They are off work with Darlington induced stress and trauma. They were triggered by Rose being referred to as a man who didn't have the protection of gender reassignment when excluded from the women's changing facilities...

Its a limited tool used to check that at the time of application the individual has not got a known proven criminal history or a police file on suspected criminal history.

As adult drag is lawful this would not show on the DBS.

Except more children are abused by males they know / are related to than are by strangers...

The reason children are more often abused by male family members, or adults known to the family, is they spend so much time with them, or because the male has multiple opportunities to abuse.

With male nursery workers, those same factors also apply.

Add to that the fact that paedophile and abuser networks online help each other to actively target nurseries and childcare centres because they make such excellent hunting grounds, and looking at the fact that in one of the only large studies done, the male nursery workers were only 5% of the staff but committed 60% of the abuse, and it should be very clear that male nursery workers are a massive risk to young children.

So?

The decent men go out of their way to stay out of situations where they could make anyone uncomfortable knowing the hard statistics and extremely severe risk that a significant small proportion of their sex pose to young children. Because the health and wellbeing of children should matter more than mildly hurt male feelings.