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Glinner Bullseye comment on X

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Thatcatsaflippingnightmare · 09/01/2026 20:41

Always trying to explain Glinner to DH, today he showed me on X JD Vance defending murder of the woman by ICE. Glinner had replied something like 'bullseye', as in agreement. I tried to comprehend with "satire?" but he said no he's on Liz truss show these days. I said well he's always been about protecting women and children, he's not suddenly supporting femicide, but the post convinced DH otherwise. Any insights? I'm not on social media

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ShowMeTheSea · 12/01/2026 12:44

What is that comment referring to?

lifeturnsonadime · 12/01/2026 12:48

Namelessnelly · 12/01/2026 12:27

so are you saying it’s the left wing who are trying to destroy women’s single sex based rights? All the left wing have to do is stop destroying women’s rights and then that’ll solve the problem won’t it?

Absolutely this.

The left can fix this.

Why don't they?

RhannionKPSS · 12/01/2026 12:49

Because “ they “ are spineless, cowardly, captured, venal and thick

ShowMeTheSea · 12/01/2026 12:52

RhannionKPSS · 12/01/2026 12:49

Because “ they “ are spineless, cowardly, captured, venal and thick

How is that any better than saying "the right" are all raging, gammony, thick bigots?

RhannionKPSS · 12/01/2026 12:52

Grow up

TheKeatingFive · 12/01/2026 12:54

FastBiscuit · 12/01/2026 10:11

Sorry if you don't like being lumped in with the right wing or that your movement attracts them but its the company you're keeping. If reform get a landslide because they know what a woman is, maybe this one issue will look pretty small beer compared to what do in government. Is the NHS worth destroying to own the trans? Is it worth having barely educated grandchildren in terrible schools taught jingoistic drivel as long as GC views are part of that indoctrination?

If its anything like Trumps america which nigel obviously wants to emulate, how will women be treated? I don't hold much hope for our rights being the same and I'm not throwing trans people under the bus to get there either. Just who are the right wingers coming for AFTER trans people?

The extraordinary thing is not that the Right know what a woman is.

The extraordinary thing is that the Left (pretend they) don't.

If that results in people abandoning left leaning parties then these left leaning parties have only themselves to blame. What a spectacular own goal they have opened themselves up to.

JamieCannister · 12/01/2026 13:00

Irkeddancer · 12/01/2026 11:20

I don't think GC beliefs are inherently right wing at all however I do think most online GC spaces are right wing or right wing leaning. I mainly lurk on FWR nowadays as it doesn't feel like the feminist space it used to. I still see posters claim the majority of users are left wing and/ or women but it's increasingly clear that for a space apparently frequented by a lot of left wingers any critique or concern about the right wing aren't engaged with in any sort of good faith on here. The response to any feminist concern about the right wing (which does intersect with GC concerns for women) seem to be:

  • this isn't relevant, why is this being posted here
  • what even is right wing now
  • accusing anyone posting about right wingers in GC spaces or prominent GC voices rubbing shoulders with the far right must be a TRA trying to smear GC views
  • GC feminists need to "use" the right wingers who are amplifying GC views and drop them when we've achieved progress (the most bizarre one)
  • or many posters just fully parroting right wing conservative views that aren't compatible with feminism and any critique of this is against weaponised as troll or TRA behaviour
  • Any concerns about right wing or conservative men using the GC cause with I'll intent is treated as completely posted in bad faith as seen earlier in this thread

I also think from the tone and devil's advocate type responses that are increasing in these anonymous forums I'm not actually convinced that I'm mostly talking to women let alone feminists anymore, which can't be proven before but there's a lot of tone and lines of argument that you mostly see from men or MRAs, and even posters who have declared themselves as men doing as Glinner does which is better misogynistic to women who don't agree with them or aren't GC,.which still isn't excusable to be misogynistic.

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It is hard to express sympathy with left wing parties when left wing parties are advocating to sterilize children, castrate young gay men, end women's rights spaces and language, telling straight men and lesbians that they are bigoted scum if they are not willing to suck c**k and who literally claim a mentally ill person's feelings are more important than reality. And are doing all of the above whilst suppressing truth and free speech.

I have never voted Tory. I despise Farage. The only times I have not voted labour are, IIRC, one vote for the greens and one vote for the Lib Dems [which was when the Lib Dems were advocating for higher taxes than labour and I was in an incredibly safe labour seat where there was no risk of the tories getting in.]

Yet I find myself defending Tommy Robinson (or rather asking for evidence from people who are accusing him of bad things) and finding that Rupert Lowe talks a lot of sense... people who see me online might well assume I am a lifelong Tory who is moving to the right because of the way I criticize the things labour are doing wrong.

Irkeddancer · 12/01/2026 13:07

JamieCannister · 12/01/2026 13:00

It is hard to express sympathy with left wing parties when left wing parties are advocating to sterilize children, castrate young gay men, end women's rights spaces and language, telling straight men and lesbians that they are bigoted scum if they are not willing to suck c**k and who literally claim a mentally ill person's feelings are more important than reality. And are doing all of the above whilst suppressing truth and free speech.

I have never voted Tory. I despise Farage. The only times I have not voted labour are, IIRC, one vote for the greens and one vote for the Lib Dems [which was when the Lib Dems were advocating for higher taxes than labour and I was in an incredibly safe labour seat where there was no risk of the tories getting in.]

Yet I find myself defending Tommy Robinson (or rather asking for evidence from people who are accusing him of bad things) and finding that Rupert Lowe talks a lot of sense... people who see me online might well assume I am a lifelong Tory who is moving to the right because of the way I criticize the things labour are doing wrong.

And you're also a man who similarly to Glinner thinks calling women silly or using misogynistic language when it's about a woman who doesn't hold the same view as you ...I think you've also said you're not a feminist and don't see the relevance of regularly declaring yourself as male even if threads where women are disclosing their experiences or assault assuming this place is frequented mostly by women. I note you've chosen to ignore reference to posters such as yourself in my post that make me as a left wing GC feminist feel this place is no longer tolerant to discussing GC beliefs from a feminist and left wing view point.

JamieCannister · 12/01/2026 13:11

minskspies · 12/01/2026 11:39

I seem to remember a few years ago a few of us taking a political spectrum type test and finding ourselves routinely in the bottom right-hand quadrant (Left/Libertarian). I've just taken the test again, and yep still firmly in that quadrant. I think what has happened is that the Left has moved so far left it has become Right itself - leaving many behind in the process. Here's the link if anyone's interested https://www.politicalcompass.org/a

Yep, I am a left wing libertarian, more left wing than I am libertarian.

I am also a capitalist who believes in a strong state!

RoyalCorgi · 12/01/2026 13:15

TheKeatingFive · 12/01/2026 12:54

The extraordinary thing is not that the Right know what a woman is.

The extraordinary thing is that the Left (pretend they) don't.

If that results in people abandoning left leaning parties then these left leaning parties have only themselves to blame. What a spectacular own goal they have opened themselves up to.

Exactly so. The amazing thing to me is that the left don't learn. It seems to be widely acknowledged that one of the reasons Trump was able to edge it over the Democrats in the swing states, thus winning the election, was the "Kamala is for they/them, President Trump is for you" advert. Ordinary Americans were not enthused about men competing in women's sports or allowing cross-dressers into women's changing rooms.

You'd think that, following that, the left would pause and reflect.

And yet in California the Democrats are still allowing violent men into women's prisons, with the consequence that a man was able to rape his female cellmate and in the forthcoming trial the victim is required to refer to him as "she".

And in the UK, the Labour govt is going to court to defend the view that men can be women, and a major trade union actually organised a demonstration in support of allowing men into women's changing rooms.

It's not just that they're terminally stupid, they're incapable of learning even a tiny bit from their own stupidity. No wonder people don't want to vote for them.

nicepotoftea · 12/01/2026 13:16

ShowMeTheSea · 12/01/2026 12:40

If reform get a landslide because they know what a woman is, maybe this one issue will look pretty small beer compared to what do in government. Is the NHS worth destroying to own the trans? Is it worth having barely educated grandchildren in terrible schools taught jingoistic drivel as long as GC views are part of that indoctrination?
If its anything like Trumps america which nigel obviously wants to emulate, how will women be treated? I don't hold much hope for our rights being the same and I'm not throwing trans people under the bus to get there either. Just who are the right wingers coming for AFTER trans people?

Completely agree, and which I think it's so naive and dangerous to agree and support a party aimed on just one issue.
Whether it be voting for them because they apparently "know what a woman is" doesn't mean they'll treat us well though even if they do
Or because they'll "sort out the boats" and "send em back" or whatever.
They're not interested in women's rights at all, I think we'd be a lot worse off under them.
I'd never risk the NHS and our healthcare either.

Again, Reform are not gender critical.

JamieCannister · 12/01/2026 13:21

Irkeddancer · 12/01/2026 13:07

And you're also a man who similarly to Glinner thinks calling women silly or using misogynistic language when it's about a woman who doesn't hold the same view as you ...I think you've also said you're not a feminist and don't see the relevance of regularly declaring yourself as male even if threads where women are disclosing their experiences or assault assuming this place is frequented mostly by women. I note you've chosen to ignore reference to posters such as yourself in my post that make me as a left wing GC feminist feel this place is no longer tolerant to discussing GC beliefs from a feminist and left wing view point.

I don't believe men can be feminists. I believe that a feminist is a woman who fights for women and I hope I am able to play my (small) part in supporting feminists.

Were I to call myself a feminist I believe I would be saying that I have an equal right to women to determine what feminism is and what is good for women. I don't believe I have that right.

If you wish to highlight precisely what parts of a previous post of yours I have chosen not to respond to or simply not read, then I will try to respond.

I certainly have no problem with people discussing feminism from a left wing viewpoint here or anywhere else.

Maybe I am wrong, but my view is that if anyone wishes to discuss previous trauma then they need make a decision whether to do so publicly or privately, and if they do so publicly then they cannot blame the public for reading it. (I wonder how many people read each thread compared to how many post on it? For all I know 30% of the people who read this board are men, and 10 times more people read than post).

Grammarnut · 12/01/2026 13:38

Abhannmor · 09/01/2026 21:59

Birdy was on the Tommy Ten Names march against immigration or whatever.

Laoise has gone all anti immigrant as well. I wish she would leave Countess Markievicz out of it . The latter was a communist after all. She was a Countess by marriage to a foreign immigrant of fighting age btw

She was on the Unite the Kingdom march, which my step-grandson also attended. His report was clear; there was no violence and those attending included ethnic minorities in the UK and people from across the class spectrum. There is nothing wrong in wanting to put our country back together again, punish rape gangs, remove criminals who have also entered the country illegally, and to celebrate our culture of tolerance, liberty, anti-slaving (Lancashire cotton workers starved and sent money to show their support for the North and anti-slavery during the US's civil war, for example, and Britain spent treasure and lives ending the Triangular Trade and stopping slavery wherever they found it and had influence), Parliamentary democracy, great literature etc. I also follow Birdy Rose and KJK, too. I don't agree with everything they say or do but one cannot agree with someone on everything. We agree on some things that I believe to be important.

FastBiscuit · 12/01/2026 13:45

spineless, cowardly, captured, venal and thick

followed by

grow up

make it make sense 😂😂😂

If non GC women are going to be labelled thick I see no need to continue that discussion.

Let us bring focus back to Glinner who is now retweeting people who think women shouldn't vote, and now thinks thr word ret*rd is acceptable language from a 60 year old lol

He's been leeching off women for years time to cut him loose.

Grammarnut · 12/01/2026 13:48

Irkeddancer · 12/01/2026 13:07

And you're also a man who similarly to Glinner thinks calling women silly or using misogynistic language when it's about a woman who doesn't hold the same view as you ...I think you've also said you're not a feminist and don't see the relevance of regularly declaring yourself as male even if threads where women are disclosing their experiences or assault assuming this place is frequented mostly by women. I note you've chosen to ignore reference to posters such as yourself in my post that make me as a left wing GC feminist feel this place is no longer tolerant to discussing GC beliefs from a feminist and left wing view point.

Irrelevant comment, really.

JamieCannister · 12/01/2026 13:53

FastBiscuit · 12/01/2026 13:45

spineless, cowardly, captured, venal and thick

followed by

grow up

make it make sense 😂😂😂

If non GC women are going to be labelled thick I see no need to continue that discussion.

Let us bring focus back to Glinner who is now retweeting people who think women shouldn't vote, and now thinks thr word ret*rd is acceptable language from a 60 year old lol

He's been leeching off women for years time to cut him loose.

"spineless, cowardly, captured, venal and thick" was outrageous.

However it is very clear to me that anyone who claims (almost certainly dishonestly) to believe that men can be women is some combination of spineless and/or cowardly and/or captured and/or venal and/or thick.

Unless I am missing something? Can you explain how someone can claim to believe that men can be women (and that women's rights can get in the sea) is not at least one of those things? Are there any people who claim men can be women because they are really clever and brave free-thinkers who have worked out that some men do have wrong-sex gendered souls, and that it is the souls that determine sex not the chromosomes?

Grammarnut · 12/01/2026 13:55

ShowMeTheSea · 12/01/2026 12:52

How is that any better than saying "the right" are all raging, gammony, thick bigots?

It's true? And none of it has the insult impact of 'gammon'.

RhannionKPSS · 12/01/2026 13:55

My comment was about political parties, especially Labour not women on here

Irkeddancer · 12/01/2026 13:55

Grammarnut · 12/01/2026 13:48

Irrelevant comment, really.

How is it irrelevant when I've said upthread I feel reluctant to post anymore as a left wing GC feminist because I feel a space that was once a place to talk amongst like minded women now has a lot of men posting in a way I find off-putting and sometimes in a way that's misogynistic? Unless only certain options count I'm not sure how your comment is doing anything than proving my point that people raising concerns from a left wing or feminist perspective are shut down,.it's certainly not furthering discussion.

JamieCannister · 12/01/2026 14:00

Irkeddancer · 12/01/2026 13:55

How is it irrelevant when I've said upthread I feel reluctant to post anymore as a left wing GC feminist because I feel a space that was once a place to talk amongst like minded women now has a lot of men posting in a way I find off-putting and sometimes in a way that's misogynistic? Unless only certain options count I'm not sure how your comment is doing anything than proving my point that people raising concerns from a left wing or feminist perspective are shut down,.it's certainly not furthering discussion.

As someone who is left wing (literally confirmed today on that website where you answer questions and it tell you where you are on a left right / authoritarian libertarian spectrum) and who supports women who are fighting for women, it is somewhat ironic that I am one of the "people raising concerns from a left wing or feminist perspective" nd you are trying to shut me down.

To be clear - I believe that one can post from a feminist perspective whilst not claiming to be a feminist because one is not female and one believes that being female is a pre-requisite to being a feminist.

RhannionKPSS · 12/01/2026 14:02

Men cannot be feminists !

Irkeddancer · 12/01/2026 14:04

JamieCannister · 12/01/2026 14:00

As someone who is left wing (literally confirmed today on that website where you answer questions and it tell you where you are on a left right / authoritarian libertarian spectrum) and who supports women who are fighting for women, it is somewhat ironic that I am one of the "people raising concerns from a left wing or feminist perspective" nd you are trying to shut me down.

To be clear - I believe that one can post from a feminist perspective whilst not claiming to be a feminist because one is not female and one believes that being female is a pre-requisite to being a feminist.

If you reread my post clearly, I'm not interested in discussion feminism or women's rights with men who a, don't feel it's relevant to disclose their sex to people and b, who makes misogynistic jabs about women who disagree with them. As women we can disagree amongst ourselves and I don't agree with policing each others language about those who support TRAs for example, but I don't think it's acceptable for men to do it and I'm not happy to see it becomes more normalised on this board. Likewise with men hounding women to debate with them, like Glinner, so I hope you'll understand clearly as you fall into the two categories I'm not interested in discussing with you personally, so please leave me alone now.

JamieCannister · 12/01/2026 14:05

RhannionKPSS · 12/01/2026 14:02

Men cannot be feminists !

If that was to me I agree and sorry if I typed confusingly.

I do not believe that men can be feminists. They can try to support those women who they see fighting for women, and can express things from a feminist perspective. But they cannot be feminists.

Irkeddancer · 12/01/2026 14:06

Anyone who doesn't think it's possible for men to be feminists hasn't really read or invested much time into learning what feminism is

nicepotoftea · 12/01/2026 14:08

Irkeddancer · 12/01/2026 14:06

Anyone who doesn't think it's possible for men to be feminists hasn't really read or invested much time into learning what feminism is

In theory I agree… but men who claim to be feminists do risk sounding like arse holes.

Maybe ‘agree with feminism’ is a better way to phrase it.

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