Mumsnet is now backing Reform UK - survey

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The ladies are for turning after all – as a new survey reveals that one in five of the politically engaged mothers on the social networking site are ready to pledge allegiance to Nigel Farage

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/mumsnet-labour-reform-school-gates-keir-starmer-b2894524.html

Also in full at https://archive.is/V5P6n

In 2015/16, there were well over a thousand German women sexually assaulted by illegal immigrants (mainly from North Africa and the Middle East) during the New Year celebrations. That would tell me, that there were between 5,000 to 10,000 men carrying out those attacks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults

Saw some people asking about Muslims and Islam for women. Muslim TV host explains when rape is okay.

https://x.com/lizarosen0000/status/2023126638397927903?s=46

Will post more later, but the Gorton & Denton result should wake everyone up. Every Muslim voted Green, as instructed by The Muslim Vote organisation. There was ‘family voting’ which is illegal attempts to coerce someone (a wife / daughter most likely) to vote their way. Muslims used to vote Labour, but the Greens are now promising them more. They will use the Greens until they have enough support for Independent Islamist candidates, which is already happening in other areas. Zack Polanski is a foolish puppet who thinks his party’s popularity is due to socialism and his ‘charisma’ rather than Islamist backing.
This is Mothin Ali (the ‘deputy’ leader of Green Party). Can you see his wife in these photos? No? That is the intention

"Every Muslim voted Green, as instructed by The Muslim Vote organisation"

I shall politely and respectfully suggest that you need to be careful when simply parroting fables put out by the losers.

As we've seen with Trump many times, reaching immediately for the "it was rigged!" simply because the winner does not align with your particular ideology is directly out of the far-right playbook and not a position you want to be in.

You must show, demonstrably and provably, that your assertion - which we all know is nonsense - is in fact true.

Or lots of people voted Green because they don't think much about politics and they want to express their dissatisfaction with Labour and Conservatives and they think Reform are idiots.

I don't like Zack Polanski, but the reason for this win doesn't have to be that deep.

Please look at how the demographic of Gorton and Denton has changed from 2011 to 2021. It has increased from 19.9% Muslim to 29.6% Muslim.

https://henryjacksonsociety.org/religiousdiversity/cgi-bin/seatdetail.py?seat=Gorton%20and%20Denton

Why would you need some kind of underhand campaign?

Labour is unpopular with everyone and people like to make protest votes at by elections. Who else were you expecting them to vote for?

Please forgive me if I have overlooked something, but where have I mentioned "underhand campaign"?

I was referring to the original post in the chain that quoted Muslims being instructed to vote in a particular way.

Interesting, I have been doing a bit of research and came across this.

https://metro.co.uk/2026/02/27/family-voting-concerns-raised-gorton-denton-by-election-27131475/?ito=facebook%7Csocial%7Cmetroukfacebook&ito=facebook%7Csocial%7Cmetroukfacebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawQOVyNleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETBBdENGeU5rTHhEZVpDSmZKc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHn1yBalrj73b5p8VxgZwjZ5R8IJn3KZyl5-JG04WQMyF5fGSTB-1Q9UhrBsP_aem_yKh6pFh76dg1I3S494Al9w

https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/gorton-denton-byelection-anna-turley-family-voting-b2928598.html

What are you implying by posting that though, and what does it have to do with what you were replying to - somebody challenging the"Every Muslim voted Green? It doesn't prove every single person who is Muslim voted Green, so why post it? They're all individual people. Comes across as sly insinuations.

I do think there are some concerns about the integrity of the election and those need to be investigated, because it will cause local and national tension if there are any doubts left unresolved.

'Family voting' (two people using a polling booth at the same time) is a criminal offence and should certainly be investigated.

We know that the there were shady goings on in some constituencies at the last election if for no other reason than what Jess Phillips reported.

However, to say that 'Every Muslim voted Green, as instructed by The Muslim Vote organisation.' (which I acknowledge was not your post) still implies that no Muslim was able to decide for themselves that they are fed up with Labour, aren't won over by Reform and so will vote Green - just like anyone else.

I could write an essay on why Zack Polanski is a tosser, but I think most people just aren't that interested in politics.

Because I never posted it. I never said that every Muslim voted for the Greens, but I do think that there have been questionable voting patterns in this election and I do think that many previous Labour voters posted Green rather than Reform or any other party. I also think, that is labour had put Andy Burnham in to contest this seat, the outcome may have been very different.

Labour have benefitted from bloc voting in the past (trade unions, ethnic communities, working class communities, students in university towns), and have very much encouraged it, it seems that the Green party have learned from this and implemented the strategy more successfully in this by-election.

There's also increased fragmentation in both the Left and Right voting populations - voters are increasingly unhappy with the established parties and are willing to lend their votes to smaller parties in hopes of generating improvements in the system that will improve their lives. Politics in lots of Western countries at the moment is in flux. To quote Amos Burton in The Expanse: "Float to the top or sink to the bottom, everything in the middle is the churn."

https://www.electionanalysis.uk/uk-election-analysis-2024/section-2-voters-polls-and-results/changing-pattern-amongst-muslim-voters-the-labour-party-gaza-and-voter-volatility/

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/the-two-bloc-polarisation-of-britains-voters-and-party-members/

Fucking hell!🤯
All of them?🤯🤯🤯

How do you know?

The Greens are, if anything, breaking slightly from the biradari network style of doing politics. They're trying to appeal directly to Abdul on TikTok, where Labour has traditionally relied on Abdul's grandad filling out all the postal ballots for the family, so that's 16 votes for Abdul's grandad's mate the Labour councillor.

It's true they're doing it in a really crass and dumb way, with messaging in Urdu going "yo Pakistanis, Keir Starmer is Narendra Modi's bitch, vote for the Green posse innit", but what do you expect from a party that elected Ali G as its leader.

You want to know what is going on in Manchester?
This is what is going on:
https://x.com/kiszelyphilip/status/2027371330245370012?s=46

And this is where it leads…
https://x.com/daveatherton20/status/2027308801880125857?s=46

I'm not really bothered about randoms on TwiX.

I want to know the facts regarding all the Muslims in G&D voting Green. As you said in your post at 08.50.

Wut 😂

Same. Any old gobshite can spout opinions as facts on Twitter.
Some actual evidence and facts, please?

Coming from N Ireland as I do, I recognise sectarian politics when I see it and I hate to see it being implemented by GB political parties. The UK is already experiencing difficult times so further destabilisation is not going to benefit the political landscape.

Stephen Daisley wrote two good articles on this theme I thought I'd share in case anyone missed them:

Labour Can't Complain About Sectarianism in Gorton

The Greens' Urdu Ad is Zack Polanski at his Worst

"The potential for a mainstream ethnic nationalist party in the lifetime of people reading this sentence is severely underpriced. If such a party does emerge, Polanski and those who treat politics as lightly as he does will have played an outsized role. The world doesn’t work the way progressives believe, where the privileged must be silent while the oppressed speak up. Encourage some identity groups to think or vote along sectarian lines, and you give licence for others to do the same.

That’s the problem with politics as fashion. Sooner or later, you’re going to start a trend."

Would you believe Roshan M Salih, Editor-in-Chief of 5 Pillars News? Or is he some random too?
“5Pillars is the largest English language Muslim news site in Europe, Australia and the Americas”
https://x.com/rmsalih/status/2027242097099559091?s=46

These are facts that I was unaware of a year ago.
I am speaking out because I know a lot of people are either unaware or disbelieving, like many in this chat.
Don’t believe me? I don’t blame you, I didn’t want to believe it either.
I urge you to research any part of this you don’t believe yourself. READ THE QURAN.
it is NOT a religion of peace, but full of hatred for non-believers.
We are fast running out of time to stop this.

People that hope that the Greens taking votes from Labour will “force Labour to the left”, what do you actually hope they will do? What are the policies you want? How will they be implemented and paid for? Reform are still in the lead in polls across the country. The Greens are not going to win in most seats. Do you want it to be a battle between extremist left v extremist right?