Mumsnet is now backing Reform UK - survey

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The ladies are for turning after all – as a new survey reveals that one in five of the politically engaged mothers on the social networking site are ready to pledge allegiance to Nigel Farage

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/mumsnet-labour-reform-school-gates-keir-starmer-b2894524.html

Also in full at https://archive.is/V5P6n

Let’s also admit that The Independent is very TWAW and would be happy to smear MN as right wing ultra Christian fascists as a convenient means to dismiss all those unreasonable Terfs not wanting to share their toilets 🙄

Thank-you, I see what you're saying, and that is significant.

I fear I'm too invested in accuracy for a career in headline-writing.

Absolutely.

Turquoise goes up? As steeply as Labour goes down

Did anyone answer this survey?

I think the increase in don't knows is striking, as well as the drop in support for Lib Dems and and other parties. (In 2019 the drop in support for Corbyn was accompanied by an increase in support for Lib Dems and other parties).

The Conservatives also seem to be on an upward trajectory.

Now why would the Greens, SNP, Lib Dems and Labour be unpopular? Which issue might have caused left wing women on Mumnset to say that they are politically homeless?

I don't know if any of this relates to women's rights, but did the survey ask the relevant question?

But dotted black line goes up the steepest. Above Reform. So, more accurately, MN voters have swung from Labour to None/not sure/wouldn’t vote.

That is significant and should get the attention of Labour or any main political parties but it’s not a sexy headline.

The dont knows are back to the same level they were previously. It looks like the dip in 'dont knows' was unusual.

Labour haven't been that low since 2010 (?).

True. It was just a really big swing to knowing before that.

This has come from an article in yesterday's Sunday Times where Justine was interviewed about a survey of Mumsnet users:

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/mumsnet-poll-shows-reform-uk-on-top-lg0cgdzp0

Archive link for the ST article:

https://archive.ph/WQALH

A lot of people voted for Labour last time because they just wanted to get rid of the Tory's, given how Labour are detested in in some quarters at the moment, if we had an election tomorrow, a lot of people could vote Reform just to get rid of Labour.
Are Mumsnetters seen as a bell weather, because if they are the main parties should be worried by this survey.

As I said up thread posting this was as much about the headlines as whether the poll is even accurate of MN.

Because as others have pointed out the big increase is in dont know's.

And whilst i think there are more, but not many, more extreme right on MN FWR, I think politically homeless is the overall majority. With the option to tactically vote to keep out Reform, the Greens, the Lib Dems, the SNP - well basically all of them!

Meant to add as 1 in 5 is the same as 20% (the undecided) then this is about the slant of newspapers rather than a reflection of MN.

The headlines and the stories could have been about undecided.

Let's not forget Trump didn't win the last election. It was because 8 million people who had voted Democrate just didn't vote.

So if anything the undecideds are the potentially more important then any thinking Reform could even organise a piss up in a brewery.

With the option to tactically vote to keep out Reform, the Greens, the Lib Dems, the SNP - well basically all of them!

I live in a conservative area that could potentially swing Reform. So for the first time in my life, I’d consider voting Tory as a tactical vote.

Edited to add: Twenty per cent of Mumsnet users intend to vote Reform, putting the party ahead of every answer besides “undecided” is poor grammar…would be clearer they wrote "…ahead of every answer other than "undecided"

Reform rose by 6%
Undecided rose by 15%

So 4 out of 5 are NOT backing Reform.

Good to know.

Click bait/sensationalist journalism from The Independent? How the mighty have fallen.

Undecideds and Not Voting are very important. When you get an electoral meltdown it’s usually due to an outburst of ‘I’ve voted X all my life, but I’m not voting for that bugger.’ An active refusal to vote rather than indifference.

The danger at the moment is a combination deal of Reform plus Not Voting refusals for the other parties.

Ugh, I used to write for the Independent many years ago. Was quite a good paper..I isn't now - what a load of clickbaity crap - and crap wrapped in misogynistic false cosiness to boot.

Very poor work.

Well the Times is just as bad. (Archive link posted above)

They actually show that the biggest growth is undecided rather than Reform.

Some on us may moan about how people just follow trends created by newspapers, but the real question is why are newspapers allowed to get away with it?

Quote:
> The proportion of Mumsnet users saying they would vote Reform rose from 14 per cent to 20 per cent
> The proportion of undecided voters grew from 8 per cent to 23 per cent.

Why? The not knowing is just back where it was a short time ago and not many polls lead with the not knowing.
It’s not that interesting to people.

It’s not that interesting to people.

Of course it is interesting!

The news media is just as invested in old style party politics as political parties are.

The are the ones who have not adapted to a new world.

Their reporting of the old ding dong politics is complete pointless in this day and age.

Both the media and politicians needs to wake up and started talking about and doing politics interesting, and the media over inflating some tiny comment by some complete nobody, who just happens to say something the papers thinks will make a good headline.

Anyone who thinks Boris or Farage making outlandishly implausible claims is worth voting for will lap up false headlines.

Those who want to know the reality of what is possible dont wont that, they want substantiated facts.

If we haven't learnt from the Brexit fabrication we the public, deserve just as much negative comments as the politicians and papers who treat us as gullible fools.

It’s not high looking at the graph. It was a brief dip but back to where it was.

Compared to previous years it’s were it was. But for a press release mnhq made the right choice for coverage.

The 'dont knows' peaked at nearly 40%, fell to 12%, now nearly 30%.

Looking at the graph, 'dont knows' have always been high, 12% looks unusually low.

Conservatives have polled low consistently- even when they have won elections. Around 15% in 2010, down to nearer 10%, now just under 15%.

Labour peaked at 45% on two occasions, always the most popular party, even when they didnt win elections.

Labours popularity has fallen suddenly, and for the first time isnt the most popular party on the survey.

Yep this

This.

Mumsnet has always been seen as a bellwether- that’s why there are web chats with politicians and the infamous biscuit question.