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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Brigitte Phillipson blocking EHRC guidance

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lcakethereforeIam · 18/12/2025 20:55

I'm not sure if there's anything new here though

Phillipson blocks trans guidance after landmark Supreme Court ruling https://share.google/P91PBE5Cy4ROwsdA1

It's a very stark article in the Telegraph.

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WarriorN · 19/01/2026 06:26

Lead of NEU

ive been told by those who know him that he is GC. Certainly his ex is and gets horrific trolling on Twitter

DuchessofReality · 19/01/2026 07:24

WarriorN · 19/01/2026 06:29

In this

there’s a clip from it on Facebook of his support for Kathleen stock

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002pvjt

His support for Kathleen, whilst obviously welcome, was one tweet in around 2021 I think, and his statements on the programme linked were of the ‘debate needs less heat, trans people are very vulnerable, variet, whilst being careful not to say TWAW. So whilst he appears more cautious than Unison about being anti the Supreme Court ruling, I would need more examples from him before concluding he was gender critical. The support for KS was not ‘she is right’ but ‘she is entitled to hold these views and men who hold them aren’t treated nearly so badly’.

WarriorN · 19/01/2026 07:40

Very cautious

also this

report due to be published. Which I’m interested to read. As I’d say women with GC views have not been supported. Was this looked at? “Found no evidence of transphobia.” Not sure what to make of that

Brigitte Phillipson blocking EHRC guidance
Brigitte Phillipson blocking EHRC guidance
WarriorN · 19/01/2026 07:44

DuchessofReality · 19/01/2026 07:24

His support for Kathleen, whilst obviously welcome, was one tweet in around 2021 I think, and his statements on the programme linked were of the ‘debate needs less heat, trans people are very vulnerable, variet, whilst being careful not to say TWAW. So whilst he appears more cautious than Unison about being anti the Supreme Court ruling, I would need more examples from him before concluding he was gender critical. The support for KS was not ‘she is right’ but ‘she is entitled to hold these views and men who hold them aren’t treated nearly so badly’.

I’m keen to watch the whole thing rather than the clip. I didn’t hear him say Trans ppl are vulnerable etc in the clip.

he said he wants to hear greater empathy in the discussion, which led to a prompt by Nick around Kathleen, and Daniel saying yes, not seeing people pushed out of jobs (or similar.)

DuchessofReality · 19/01/2026 07:50

Interesting. I listened to the radio programme, not the clip, although I didn’t have 100% attention to it throughout that part as a child also wanted my attention!

Encouraged by the Karon M commission as I don’t think you would ask her to do a report if you were a full on TRA…..

PhilOPastry62 · 19/01/2026 10:03

DuchessofReality · 19/01/2026 07:24

His support for Kathleen, whilst obviously welcome, was one tweet in around 2021 I think, and his statements on the programme linked were of the ‘debate needs less heat, trans people are very vulnerable, variet, whilst being careful not to say TWAW. So whilst he appears more cautious than Unison about being anti the Supreme Court ruling, I would need more examples from him before concluding he was gender critical. The support for KS was not ‘she is right’ but ‘she is entitled to hold these views and men who hold them aren’t treated nearly so badly’.

I gather from what I've heard that he's gender-critical, but he's cautious with what he'll say so that he doesn't get ousted: he needs votes if he's to stay put, and if he were to be pushed out, it would no doubt leave the union leadership to the gender woo purists. The answer, of course, is for more union members (especially women) to actually vote in leadership elections, but turnout is always low, and more prevalent among activists with various axes to grind.

ItsCoolForCats · 19/01/2026 11:53

PhilOPastry62 · 19/01/2026 10:03

I gather from what I've heard that he's gender-critical, but he's cautious with what he'll say so that he doesn't get ousted: he needs votes if he's to stay put, and if he were to be pushed out, it would no doubt leave the union leadership to the gender woo purists. The answer, of course, is for more union members (especially women) to actually vote in leadership elections, but turnout is always low, and more prevalent among activists with various axes to grind.

I can see where he is coming from, if that is the case. If TRAs get even a whiff that someone might be GC or be sympathetic to GC views, they will do everything in their power to oust them. Look at how they reacted to Mary Ann Stephenson because she donated to a couple of crowdfunders.

334bu · 19/01/2026 12:08

Petition now up to get Government to publish guidance. Will put a link on petitions board.

Keeptoiletssafe · 19/01/2026 16:18

Maybe cash-strapped schools could apply to UNICEF to fund the changes needed in the schools with all new mixed sex designs to single sex?

UNICEF:
“Get this: It takes women and girls a collective 266 million hours every day to find a place to go!
The search for a bathroom is not a matter of inconvenience, but inequality. It can be dangerous, unhealthy, and keep girls out of school’.

SchoolsWeek estimated a quarter of U.K. secondary schools have unisex toilets that need changing for girls.

Mad how it’s got to this.

ThisHappyHiker · 19/01/2026 17:16

BP is an evil woman. There is something seriously wrong with her thought processes. She appears to want to enable perverts and predators and is being open about it. I'm honestly starting to wonder if she has another agenda because if she was a man we would be suspicious of his motives.

moto748e · 19/01/2026 18:01

It's so difficult, so complicated... 🙄

It seems like they are quite happy to stonewall (sic) forever and a day.

1984Now · 19/01/2026 18:29

ThisHappyHiker · 19/01/2026 17:16

BP is an evil woman. There is something seriously wrong with her thought processes. She appears to want to enable perverts and predators and is being open about it. I'm honestly starting to wonder if she has another agenda because if she was a man we would be suspicious of his motives.

You have to remember that people like Phillipson who get into govt and have a major role in policy, likely with no other life skills, of little use outside politics or the third sector, and in hock to organisations like unions for their position, learn to be totally in lockstep with the philosophy of those structures.
The left have chosen to go all in on trans ideology, and Phillipson is one of the useful idiots who's signed up to this because her whole professional existence and future employment prospects depends on total fealty.
Where the transition on going along with it to start, to converting fully to the cause happens is harder to guess. Maybe it's seamless.
Because for a woman who ran a rape centre to have these views cannot be explained otherwise in any rational way.

1984Now · 19/01/2026 18:34

ItsCoolForCats · 19/01/2026 17:39

Sarah Ludford in the in the House of Lords saying BP has run out of road 👏🏻 Jacqui Smith's response though 🙄

https://x.com/i/status/2013289739462259189

So much flannel in that response, all the hand car washes in the UK have totally run out.

UtopiaPlanitia · 20/01/2026 01:32

moto748e · 19/01/2026 18:01

It's so difficult, so complicated... 🙄

It seems like they are quite happy to stonewall (sic) forever and a day.

Labour pols keep waffling on about how the SC ruling has CLARIFIED the law and how the ruling is a model of CLARITY, so they expect service providers and organisations to get on with following it.... and then immediately pivot to saying that it's taking an army of govt lawyers to check over the EHRC guidance (that is based on this CLARIFIED law) because the guidance has got to be legally water tight and this CLARIFIED law is so awfully complex that it needs to be made comprehensible to Jane and Jonny Pleb.

They speak out of both sides of their mouth (and their arse).

Edited: missing words

1984Now · 20/01/2026 08:31

UtopiaPlanitia · 20/01/2026 01:32

Labour pols keep waffling on about how the SC ruling has CLARIFIED the law and how the ruling is a model of CLARITY, so they expect service providers and organisations to get on with following it.... and then immediately pivot to saying that it's taking an army of govt lawyers to check over the EHRC guidance (that is based on this CLARIFIED law) because the guidance has got to be legally water tight and this CLARIFIED law is so awfully complex that it needs to be made comprehensible to Jane and Jonny Pleb.

They speak out of both sides of their mouth (and their arse).

Edited: missing words

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Put it this way, had the SC ruling gone the other way, the advice would have been rolled out before any TRA Labour MP could have finished the sentence "transwomen are..."

teawamutu · 20/01/2026 08:36

Schrödinger's ruling: so clear! So important to follow! And yet at the same time so complex! So hard to interpret!

Every time I think I could not despise these twats more, they limbo under the bar. And I don't know if Jacqui Smith is aiming for gold in the Patronising Head Girl event at the Olympics, but she might consider it to advantage.

FFS.

KnottyAuty · 20/01/2026 08:52

Keeptoiletssafe · 19/01/2026 16:18

Maybe cash-strapped schools could apply to UNICEF to fund the changes needed in the schools with all new mixed sex designs to single sex?

UNICEF:
“Get this: It takes women and girls a collective 266 million hours every day to find a place to go!
The search for a bathroom is not a matter of inconvenience, but inequality. It can be dangerous, unhealthy, and keep girls out of school’.

SchoolsWeek estimated a quarter of U.K. secondary schools have unisex toilets that need changing for girls.

Mad how it’s got to this.

That is a genius idea!
can individuals apply on behalf of their TRA schools? How embarrassing would that be if your local paper covered a UNICEF visit to assess the grant?!

KnottyAuty · 20/01/2026 08:57

ItsCoolForCats · 19/01/2026 17:39

Sarah Ludford in the in the House of Lords saying BP has run out of road 👏🏻 Jacqui Smith's response though 🙄

https://x.com/i/status/2013289739462259189

What is Jacqui Smith thinking!? She ignores the question. Tells us that a lawful code of practice is in women’s interests. And tells us about BP’s track record on working for women…. Don’t they realise that by running with this stuff they trash their own legacy? They make themselves utterly ridiculous

Iamnotalemming · 20/01/2026 09:56

The look of fury and disgust on Sarah Ludford's face as she heard Jacqui Smith's response to her question speaks for us all, I think.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 20/01/2026 10:34

"The Minister has run out of road with her flanelling and is harming women"

"The Minister identifies as a superhero for women (but only those with penises or those enabling the ones with penises), you're being a naughty fuckwitphobic, here's some more flannel".

Fgs Phillipson, do your job or resign, and lets have someone who can.

1984Now · 20/01/2026 10:43

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 20/01/2026 10:34

"The Minister has run out of road with her flanelling and is harming women"

"The Minister identifies as a superhero for women (but only those with penises or those enabling the ones with penises), you're being a naughty fuckwitphobic, here's some more flannel".

Fgs Phillipson, do your job or resign, and lets have someone who can.

Maybe the Home Secretary can take on this portfolio.

nicepotoftea · 20/01/2026 10:55

KnottyAuty · 20/01/2026 08:57

What is Jacqui Smith thinking!? She ignores the question. Tells us that a lawful code of practice is in women’s interests. And tells us about BP’s track record on working for women…. Don’t they realise that by running with this stuff they trash their own legacy? They make themselves utterly ridiculous

I thought that BP is delaying because she wants an impact assessment, not because she claims the guidance isn't lawful?

And doesn't she have the option to send the guidance back if she thinks it isn't lawful?

So confusing.

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