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Brigitte Phillipson blocking EHRC guidance

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lcakethereforeIam · 18/12/2025 20:55

I'm not sure if there's anything new here though

Phillipson blocks trans guidance after landmark Supreme Court ruling https://share.google/P91PBE5Cy4ROwsdA1

It's a very stark article in the Telegraph.

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Pingponghavoc · 23/01/2026 12:46

Farage has form for disappearing. He went quiet after the referendum, when it was clear no one had a post brexit plan. He popped up again, had support but bottled it to ensured Boris Johnson was elected over Corbyn.

I don't get the team he's putting together. Apart from financial backers what is Nadhim Zahawi bringing? People say hes picky about defections, but seems happy to accept any tory and shows no loyalty to previous allies. Im thinking about rupert low, and i know of grass roots local party members who have been frozen out. Its possible that they werent the right calibre, but again, is Zahawi?

I wouldn't be surprised if hes enjoying the mayhem, but will disappear before the next election.

Meanwhile we've wasted all of this time and energy and nothing changes.

1984Now · 23/01/2026 12:58

Thelnebriati · 23/01/2026 12:33

Yes, I realise that, I also know its possible for a system to be biased, or unable to fairly rate some types of work.

I suspect Farage will run quotas on among other things, the removal of illegal immigrants, elimination of DEI from public institutions like the NHS (especially)/BBC/civil service itself.
Those senior civil servants who go above and beyond to make policy work will be richly rewarded, those that don't, well...
Rumours already abounding that the CSU will down tools the first day a Reform govt starts. Along the push for a general strike (our anti women pro TRA new leader of Unite will be chomping at the bit).
It appears that many senior civil servants, both current and retired, who are sick and tired about politicised inertia in the system, are continually filling Farage in on how the system works and how a motivated Reform govt could shake things up.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 23/01/2026 12:59

Thelnebriati · 23/01/2026 12:33

Yes, I realise that, I also know its possible for a system to be biased, or unable to fairly rate some types of work.

The civil service should be entirely outcome organised and evaluated.

Before services or solutions are spun up - you are supposed to identify the problem you will solve, why you should solve it, who benefits, who loses out, the cost, the risk and the time frame involved. All of those can be tested to see if you succeeded or not. It's not very hard at all in fact the CS even have frameworks to guide them yet they still fall on their faces

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 23/01/2026 13:00

1984Now · 23/01/2026 12:58

I suspect Farage will run quotas on among other things, the removal of illegal immigrants, elimination of DEI from public institutions like the NHS (especially)/BBC/civil service itself.
Those senior civil servants who go above and beyond to make policy work will be richly rewarded, those that don't, well...
Rumours already abounding that the CSU will down tools the first day a Reform govt starts. Along the push for a general strike (our anti women pro TRA new leader of Unite will be chomping at the bit).
It appears that many senior civil servants, both current and retired, who are sick and tired about politicised inertia in the system, are continually filling Farage in on how the system works and how a motivated Reform govt could shake things up.

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without sounding like a broken record I applaud every point you make and agree with it all.

People who are bad at their job should not have those jobs. You can and should be constantly evaluated to see if you are making a difference and if you are not you are out.

The civil service does not exist as job seekers allowance for the middle classes.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 23/01/2026 13:01

Pingponghavoc · 23/01/2026 12:46

Farage has form for disappearing. He went quiet after the referendum, when it was clear no one had a post brexit plan. He popped up again, had support but bottled it to ensured Boris Johnson was elected over Corbyn.

I don't get the team he's putting together. Apart from financial backers what is Nadhim Zahawi bringing? People say hes picky about defections, but seems happy to accept any tory and shows no loyalty to previous allies. Im thinking about rupert low, and i know of grass roots local party members who have been frozen out. Its possible that they werent the right calibre, but again, is Zahawi?

I wouldn't be surprised if hes enjoying the mayhem, but will disappear before the next election.

Meanwhile we've wasted all of this time and energy and nothing changes.

This is why Zahawi and Jenrick -

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1984Now · 23/01/2026 13:11

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 23/01/2026 12:59

The civil service should be entirely outcome organised and evaluated.

Before services or solutions are spun up - you are supposed to identify the problem you will solve, why you should solve it, who benefits, who loses out, the cost, the risk and the time frame involved. All of those can be tested to see if you succeeded or not. It's not very hard at all in fact the CS even have frameworks to guide them yet they still fall on their faces

Farage knows the Reform project succeeds or fails based on getting the basics right, first the overhaul of the civil service, then the larger legal administrative complex, and reining in the activist charity third sector influence on public policy.
The industrial pipeline of govt literally providing unlimited funds and influence on policy to the very bodies weaponised to stop govt policy working needs to be ended.
The number of people in this country who came here illegally accessing the funds to go to court to stop being removed from the country is batshit insane. Contrary to govt policy. Yet given the green light by govt and the taxpayer funds provided.
Alongside this, the govt incl Sunak Badenoch one who vowed to end trans ideology in the NHS continued to facilitate EDI in the service (continuing to this day, nurses Peggie Mellie Darlington crew feeling the full force) which meant TRA embedded itself in the NHS, totally contrary to the avowed intention of Sunak Badenoch to end it.
The civil servants who work hard to get this revolution done will do very well under Farage.
This ends with Reform. Such will be the pitch from Farage.

ScrollingLeaves · 23/01/2026 14:00

1984Now · 23/01/2026 11:03

There are strong rumours that if Reform win the GE outright, Farage will run things like a company. He will effectively be a CEO, with a board acting as The office Of The PM.
Experts in their field will be enobled into the Lords and then airlifted into senior Cabinet Minister positions in the most important posts (Chancellor, Education, Health, Trade, Home Office etc), like Sunak brought Lord Cameron into the FO.
Underpinning this will be a Grand Restoration to unravel the HRA, GRA and EqA, leave the ECHR and likely the Refugees Convention, bring in a British Bill Of Rights, re-wire the state.
Right now, do we want a Bridgette Phillipson at Education, wholly unsuitable for the role and over politicised, or the likes of a eg Katherine Birbalsingh, who's done the hard yards and would bring real world experience to the role?
All I know is that by the time of the 2029 GE, we'll have had two decades of total failure from the Tories (incl LD for the first 5 years of that) and Labour.
The elevation of a wholly unqualified and undeserved Phillipson to a post as crucial as Education is testament to a totally broken political system.

The elevation of a wholly unqualified and undeserved Phillipson to a post as crucial as Education is testament to a totally broken political system

Yes.

1984Now · 23/01/2026 14:10

ScrollingLeaves · 23/01/2026 14:00

The elevation of a wholly unqualified and undeserved Phillipson to a post as crucial as Education is testament to a totally broken political system

Yes.

I read something once that said there has been more churn in appointments of Education Ministers than any other dept in recent decades.
Either the few good ones get moved on for political convenience reasons, or the majority of poor ones are victim of musical chairs.
I'm ambivalent in some of what Katherine Birbalsingh says and does, but I know she has passion for education and her kids and kids of UK in her core.
And she is scathing about Phillipson, calling her overtly political, levels old school class war pettiness, disinterested in what makes Michaela School the success it is, and sounding arrogant and ambitious in all their conversations.
You can be sure of one thing. If Phillipson is sitting in the SC ruling/ECHR official advice, this is no coincidence, not laziness, not lack of focus.
No, she's doing it for wholly specific reasons.

IwantToRetire · 23/01/2026 17:19

1984Now · 23/01/2026 11:03

There are strong rumours that if Reform win the GE outright, Farage will run things like a company. He will effectively be a CEO, with a board acting as The office Of The PM.
Experts in their field will be enobled into the Lords and then airlifted into senior Cabinet Minister positions in the most important posts (Chancellor, Education, Health, Trade, Home Office etc), like Sunak brought Lord Cameron into the FO.
Underpinning this will be a Grand Restoration to unravel the HRA, GRA and EqA, leave the ECHR and likely the Refugees Convention, bring in a British Bill Of Rights, re-wire the state.
Right now, do we want a Bridgette Phillipson at Education, wholly unsuitable for the role and over politicised, or the likes of a eg Katherine Birbalsingh, who's done the hard yards and would bring real world experience to the role?
All I know is that by the time of the 2029 GE, we'll have had two decades of total failure from the Tories (incl LD for the first 5 years of that) and Labour.
The elevation of a wholly unqualified and undeserved Phillipson to a post as crucial as Education is testament to a totally broken political system.

I dont think I have read anything so bonkers as this.

Have you kept abreast of how this approach is working out in the US?

Anyone who thinks having a Trump copy cat in charge will improve services should read about the impact of this "impact" approach in the US.

Do you really trust businesses like the ones who supplied the post offices automated systems?

Get a grip.

Sloppy workers will be sloppy workers.

How many of you have been fobbed off by one of your services providers, for instance water company (their record is really great) or internet provider.

This is why politics fails.

Because as voters we behave like children who go on believing in Santa Claus.

And this silly obsession that everything will be alright if we just didn't have to bother with equal rights because of course entitled white people will always behave perfectly.

I dont know whether to laugh or cry at such silliness.

Pingponghavoc · 23/01/2026 20:03

1984Now · 23/01/2026 11:03

There are strong rumours that if Reform win the GE outright, Farage will run things like a company. He will effectively be a CEO, with a board acting as The office Of The PM.
Experts in their field will be enobled into the Lords and then airlifted into senior Cabinet Minister positions in the most important posts (Chancellor, Education, Health, Trade, Home Office etc), like Sunak brought Lord Cameron into the FO.
Underpinning this will be a Grand Restoration to unravel the HRA, GRA and EqA, leave the ECHR and likely the Refugees Convention, bring in a British Bill Of Rights, re-wire the state.
Right now, do we want a Bridgette Phillipson at Education, wholly unsuitable for the role and over politicised, or the likes of a eg Katherine Birbalsingh, who's done the hard yards and would bring real world experience to the role?
All I know is that by the time of the 2029 GE, we'll have had two decades of total failure from the Tories (incl LD for the first 5 years of that) and Labour.
The elevation of a wholly unqualified and undeserved Phillipson to a post as crucial as Education is testament to a totally broken political system.

If only, according to the telegraph:

Chancellor - Robert Jenrick
Home Office - Zia Yusuf
Foreign Office - Nadhim Zahawi
Business and Energy - Richard Tice

1984Now · 23/01/2026 21:19

IwantToRetire · 23/01/2026 17:19

I dont think I have read anything so bonkers as this.

Have you kept abreast of how this approach is working out in the US?

Anyone who thinks having a Trump copy cat in charge will improve services should read about the impact of this "impact" approach in the US.

Do you really trust businesses like the ones who supplied the post offices automated systems?

Get a grip.

Sloppy workers will be sloppy workers.

How many of you have been fobbed off by one of your services providers, for instance water company (their record is really great) or internet provider.

This is why politics fails.

Because as voters we behave like children who go on believing in Santa Claus.

And this silly obsession that everything will be alright if we just didn't have to bother with equal rights because of course entitled white people will always behave perfectly.

I dont know whether to laugh or cry at such silliness.

The last person who called me "silly" was my mum when I was young, lol.
I'm not saying this is guaranteed to work, I'm just reporting what I've heard is in Reform's plans.
Would it really be wrong for a Birbalsingh to run schools, or an effective retired DI to run the police, or a Alan Sugar type to run Trade?
Because I really don't see the issue after examples like Phillipson who seemingly only brings politics to her job, belying Starmer's vow on winning the GE that his govt would be "country first and party second".
Tell me right now what rights non white people lacked in 1997, the day before the HRA came into force, and what rights they would lose if it was rolled over by a Reform govt?

1984Now · 23/01/2026 21:20

Pingponghavoc · 23/01/2026 20:03

If only, according to the telegraph:

Chancellor - Robert Jenrick
Home Office - Zia Yusuf
Foreign Office - Nadhim Zahawi
Business and Energy - Richard Tice

Jenrick prefers Chancellor to Home Secretary?

Pingponghavoc · 23/01/2026 21:38

Dont know how true it is. Id have thought Danny Kruger would have a top job?

1984Now · 23/01/2026 21:46

1984Now · 23/01/2026 21:20

Jenrick prefers Chancellor to Home Secretary?

Nadine Dorries to head up the Dept Of Creative Writing?

KitWyn · 23/01/2026 22:02

1984Now · 23/01/2026 21:20

Jenrick prefers Chancellor to Home Secretary?

Yes. Chancellor is the much more powerful role, controlling all the money is always the smart move. Easier to steal credit for any successes and blame others for the failures.

Home Secretary is a poisoned chalice. So easy to fail, and the voters have a front row seat to all your screw-ups.

The Home Office stated primary goals are:

  • cut crime and the harm it causes
  • manage civil emergencies
  • protect vulnerable people & communities
  • reduce terrorism
  • control migration
  • provide world-class public services and contribute to prosperity
  • maximise the benefits of the UK leaving the EU
(I'd really not want to be in charge of most of these!)

Foreign Secretary is much better positioning for a later play for the top job. You get to look like an international leader on the world stage. And the voters don't so easily see (or understand) your policy mis-steps.

moto748e · 23/01/2026 22:11

Foreign Secretary is much better positioning for a later play for the top job. You get to look like an international leader on the world stage. And the voters don't so easily see (or understand) your policy mis-steps.

Well, it worked for Liz Truss! Briefly. 😁

1984Now · 23/01/2026 22:11

KitWyn · 23/01/2026 22:02

Yes. Chancellor is the much more powerful role, controlling all the money is always the smart move. Easier to steal credit for any successes and blame others for the failures.

Home Secretary is a poisoned chalice. So easy to fail, and the voters have a front row seat to all your screw-ups.

The Home Office stated primary goals are:

  • cut crime and the harm it causes
  • manage civil emergencies
  • protect vulnerable people & communities
  • reduce terrorism
  • control migration
  • provide world-class public services and contribute to prosperity
  • maximise the benefits of the UK leaving the EU
(I'd really not want to be in charge of most of these!)

Foreign Secretary is much better positioning for a later play for the top job. You get to look like an international leader on the world stage. And the voters don't so easily see (or understand) your policy mis-steps.

What's Jenrick's reasonable claim to Chancellor? Isn't he just a simple solicitor?
I mean, if there was a Minister of Conveyancing...

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 24/01/2026 00:00

1984Now · 23/01/2026 21:19

The last person who called me "silly" was my mum when I was young, lol.
I'm not saying this is guaranteed to work, I'm just reporting what I've heard is in Reform's plans.
Would it really be wrong for a Birbalsingh to run schools, or an effective retired DI to run the police, or a Alan Sugar type to run Trade?
Because I really don't see the issue after examples like Phillipson who seemingly only brings politics to her job, belying Starmer's vow on winning the GE that his govt would be "country first and party second".
Tell me right now what rights non white people lacked in 1997, the day before the HRA came into force, and what rights they would lose if it was rolled over by a Reform govt?

The HRA, and the ECHR that it ratifies, are guardrail laws used to hold Govt and corporate bodies to account. Removal of these affects all of us, regardless of race.

Off the top of my head, uses to protect all of us include:

  • The Good Friday Agreement.
  • Forstater v Centre For Global Development.
  • Miller v College of Policing.

Leaving ECHR undermines the GFA. Do you really want to risk a return to The Troubles?

The HRA, by ratifying the ECHR, allows us to use British courts to hold bodies to account without having to trail off to the ECtHR at great expense. This is a good thing, as Miller and Forstater can testify.

The ECHR and HRA's "right to life" article prevent a repeat of the Hillsborough Disaster cover-up by letting the victim's families take the police to court. They force a proper investigation of the next racially-motivated murder, so no parent has to jump through hoops for nearly two decades the way that Stephen Lawrence's parents did to get justice for their child.

Believe me when I say that we do not want to remove the HRA, nor leave ECHR.

ScrollingLeaves · 24/01/2026 00:37

1984Now · 23/01/2026 22:11

What's Jenrick's reasonable claim to Chancellor? Isn't he just a simple solicitor?
I mean, if there was a Minister of Conveyancing...

Sleazy slithering dishonest and on the make.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 24/01/2026 10:47

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 24/01/2026 00:00

The HRA, and the ECHR that it ratifies, are guardrail laws used to hold Govt and corporate bodies to account. Removal of these affects all of us, regardless of race.

Off the top of my head, uses to protect all of us include:

  • The Good Friday Agreement.
  • Forstater v Centre For Global Development.
  • Miller v College of Policing.

Leaving ECHR undermines the GFA. Do you really want to risk a return to The Troubles?

The HRA, by ratifying the ECHR, allows us to use British courts to hold bodies to account without having to trail off to the ECtHR at great expense. This is a good thing, as Miller and Forstater can testify.

The ECHR and HRA's "right to life" article prevent a repeat of the Hillsborough Disaster cover-up by letting the victim's families take the police to court. They force a proper investigation of the next racially-motivated murder, so no parent has to jump through hoops for nearly two decades the way that Stephen Lawrence's parents did to get justice for their child.

Believe me when I say that we do not want to remove the HRA, nor leave ECHR.

These acts however only have any use at all if you live in a country where the government respects and obeys the law, as apart from picking from it as a buffet when convenient and ignoring the rest. Even Supreme Court rulings.

Frankly and unfortunately, all of this stuff is dead. Labour put the last nails in the coffin when Phillipson began to fuck about.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 24/01/2026 18:15

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 24/01/2026 10:47

These acts however only have any use at all if you live in a country where the government respects and obeys the law, as apart from picking from it as a buffet when convenient and ignoring the rest. Even Supreme Court rulings.

Frankly and unfortunately, all of this stuff is dead. Labour put the last nails in the coffin when Phillipson began to fuck about.

When Gina Miller took the Govt to court over Brexit, the Tory govt respected that ruling and tabled a Bill that was then debated in Parliament and passed into law prior to invoking Article 50. They didn't just carry on regardless.

The Tory govt that took us out of the EU had more respect for the law than this Labour govt does. Let that sink in.

1984Now · 24/01/2026 18:30

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 24/01/2026 18:15

When Gina Miller took the Govt to court over Brexit, the Tory govt respected that ruling and tabled a Bill that was then debated in Parliament and passed into law prior to invoking Article 50. They didn't just carry on regardless.

The Tory govt that took us out of the EU had more respect for the law than this Labour govt does. Let that sink in.

Of all the failures of Starmer, too many to last, this is in sone ways the worst.
He declared he would govern as "country first and party second", and that his core is "rule of law, otherwise only anarchy".
The first thing he allows to happen, within just weeks of getting in, was Phillipson shameful scutling of the FE Free Speech Act.
And then this 13 months and counting inertia on enacting the SC ruling.
Both of these are "party first, country second".
And the lack of action on the SC ruling is the very opposite of upholding rule of law.
Starmer is not only useless, he's the worst kind of hypocrite.

1984Now · 24/01/2026 18:38

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 23/01/2026 13:01

This is why Zahawi and Jenrick -

I'll watch that later. Have a lot of time for Mr. Kisin.
Farage still have a ton of work to do to convince centre right voters like me to go with him, but a fleshed out plan in rewiring the state starting with electroshocking the civil service will get me to prick up my ears.

SionnachRuadh · 24/01/2026 18:58

1984Now · 24/01/2026 18:38

I'll watch that later. Have a lot of time for Mr. Kisin.
Farage still have a ton of work to do to convince centre right voters like me to go with him, but a fleshed out plan in rewiring the state starting with electroshocking the civil service will get me to prick up my ears.

Farage I'm sure knows what his key weakness is with persuadable voters - the perception that Reform is a one man band with no team and no plan.

The plan is being worked on, and some of the recent defectors are important to that.

As far as the team goes... there are things a new party can self-generate like a branch structure or a better press operation, but when it comes to a shadow cabinet, you have to buy in talent. It's just a matter of whether you're buying in the right talent.

When Zahawi joined, some libertarian purists in Reform went "fuck no, not the vaccines minister" and there was a smattering of resignations, but Nigel knows two important things, (a) Zahawi is ideologically flexible but if you give him a job he'll do it well, and (b) he doesn't have to appeal to libertarian purists, he has to appeal to normie voters who'll go "oh that guy was the vaccines minister, that's something the Tories actually did a good job on".

Some of the defectors have me scratching my head, but I know you can't run a government made up entirely of people who've never been in government before. Besides, critics to Farage's right don't have a leg to stand on - Ben Habib's outfit is full of ex-Tories, starting with Ben himself, with a side order of ethnonationalist cranks.

1984Now · 24/01/2026 19:16

SionnachRuadh · 24/01/2026 18:58

Farage I'm sure knows what his key weakness is with persuadable voters - the perception that Reform is a one man band with no team and no plan.

The plan is being worked on, and some of the recent defectors are important to that.

As far as the team goes... there are things a new party can self-generate like a branch structure or a better press operation, but when it comes to a shadow cabinet, you have to buy in talent. It's just a matter of whether you're buying in the right talent.

When Zahawi joined, some libertarian purists in Reform went "fuck no, not the vaccines minister" and there was a smattering of resignations, but Nigel knows two important things, (a) Zahawi is ideologically flexible but if you give him a job he'll do it well, and (b) he doesn't have to appeal to libertarian purists, he has to appeal to normie voters who'll go "oh that guy was the vaccines minister, that's something the Tories actually did a good job on".

Some of the defectors have me scratching my head, but I know you can't run a government made up entirely of people who've never been in government before. Besides, critics to Farage's right don't have a leg to stand on - Ben Habib's outfit is full of ex-Tories, starting with Ben himself, with a side order of ethnonationalist cranks.

I suspect 2026 is the year that the Tories get crushed (you've seen Jenrick's revelation of Badenoch's "60 Seats Strategy"?), Farage sorts his slate of 650 candidates, and crystallizes whether he's Thatcher 2.0, Blue Labour, or something original, with the underpinning of Grand Restoration/rewire the state.
Then the sell happens in 2027.
I'm all ears.

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