Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton, following Employment Tribunal judgment - thread #60

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Judgment was handed down on 8 December 2025:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6936ce28a6fc97b81e57436a/S_Peggie_v_Fife_Health_Board__Dr_Upton.pdf

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and was expected to last 2 weeks. However, after 2 weeks it was not complete and it adjourned part-heard. It resumed on 16 July and the last day of evidence was 29 July 2025. It resumed again over 1 to 2 September for closing submissions.
Following handing down of the judgment on 8 December 2025, on 11 December 2025, it was announced by Sandie Peggie and her legal team that they would be pursuing an appeal.

The hearing was live tweeted by x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr-005 and tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr-bd6.

Links to previous threads #1 to #50 can be found in this thread: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 51: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5402652-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-51 1 September 2025 to 2 September 2025
Thread 52: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5403218-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-52 2 September 2025 to 4 September 2025
Thread 53: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5404208-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-53 3 September 2025 to 1 October 2025
Thread 54: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5418690-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-54 28 September 2025 to 21 November 2025
Thread 55: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5447019-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-55 19 November 2025 to 8 December 2025
Thread 56: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456749-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-56 8 December 2025 to 9 December 2025
Thread 57: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5457132-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-57 9 December 2025 to 11 December 2025
Thread 58: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5458443-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-58 11 December 2025 to 12 December 2025
Thread 59: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5459115-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-59 12 December 2025 to 17 December 2025

😂😂😂

Naw. No harsh enough.

Even Keechie Kemp wouldnae be ower harsh.

I spent part of my childhood in Fife. I’ve been racking my brain for an equivalent of “pax”. I’m not sure calling for a truce was an option!

“Game’s a bogey” or “ baw’s burst” when calling off play due to rule breaking.

I can't think of an equivalent. If we were playing tig, then it was "You're het!" instead of '"You're it!" Cannot think of an equivalent of 'pax' at all...

I can just remember "Dae ye gie up?" or "Ma mum's shoutin fur me!"

I'll say one thing: in Fife we're "thrawn". Upton's maybe stubborn, but he's no thrawn in the same way as those of us from a working class background. Methinks he's had a shock.

A vet once called my horse thrawn. He's not wrong haha.

The best explanation that I ever heard of the difference between 'stubborn' and 'thrawn' was the story told by the late Robbie Shepherd. He wasn't wrong.

We crossed our fingers and said ‘creasies’.

@WearyAuldWumman

Seafield 😁
Crazy house prices for rammed in boring new builds spitting distance from bandit country. Handy for the freezing cold shows once a year though!

@WearyAuldWumman

Tig? Did ye no play chasin?
Het - yes!
“black sheep” for the kid who wanted to play but was too wee for the rules to apply. Maybe Sond the Sap declared Upton the black sheep?

Was that "tiny hill" the one we could see through the leggings?

I think my mum said 'Tig'. I vaguely recall it being used in a rhyme, but can't recall the rhyme. Yes, we probably said 'chasin'.

Have just seen a post on a FB Benarty group. Someone has demanded that they remove a post about Upton. (It had a pic of him in his bearded days.) In response, they've reposted the post with a comment saying that they only remove posts where someone is threatening violence. However, I can no longer find the post.

Someone will have reported it and FB will have taken it down because, like every other Big Tech outfit, they are all about teh menz.

A friend of mine bought a new build on an estate called 'Watermead'. By the time I found out the address it was too late to say anything.

Ouch.

Sorry but you've got that wrong, Upton is not the trans identified man who is allegedly trying to get his wife pregnant, that is "Rose" from the Darlington nurses case.

She probably thought she'd get a promotion for supporting a man over a woman.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truce_term

I'm struggling to remember our truce term but I found this interesting. We could locate you all quite accurately from what you yelled as a kid in the playground!

We played tig, and the person who was chasing was "het". Dutch for "it" btw. I noticed a pile of Dutch words in our dialect and other E coast regional dialects too.

Surely it would be safe to assume the male Upton being married to his wife would be trying for a baby, despite them both being in a lesbian relationship, now that society ignores biology for feeling's, but one can still have a miracle baby, so two “women” can reproduce in this brave new world of ours.

Does anyone know where Upton currently works?

Not necessarily, as some people don't have kids.

Let's not stalk and dox people. They go low, we go high.

Have you read 'Thrawn Janet'? The most scary short story you'll ever read. By Robert Louis Stevenson.

No and I think it's much better not to make assumptions.

We've managed 60 threads where we've all tried to be as accurate and factual as possible, and correct each other's mistakes. Let's keep going with that.

Edited to say I agree with @selffellatingouroborosofhate post after yours.

Oooh. Thanks for this. I've read some RLS short stories and they are masterly, but I hadn't heard of this one. Definitely on my list now.

EDIT: 49p on Kindle. Have bought. Will be great Christmas reading!