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Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 2

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fromorbit · 08/12/2025 14:07

Zack Polanski is making things bigger again.

We need a new thread to discuss all his antics and the ongoing situation in the Green party which is getting more ever more bizarre. While it is getting ever strident in denying biology it also has Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it.

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration,(https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ ) continues and the court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing.

In Bristol the Women of Wessex are causing panic amongst the ruling Green council just by turning up and asking questions. This may result in another court case.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued

With local elections in May and elections in Wales incoming lots more to discuss and call out.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of Hypno Boobs:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

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Lalgarh · Today 10:26

The "Corbzy was framed" stuff is, I guess a form of mirroring of his new base. It's a technique in dating / behaviour therapy to build empathy iirc?

And as @1984Now notes, could he really claim that the Sun hack put him up to the hypnotits stuff when he was already advertising it?

ArabellaSaurus · Today 10:40

SionnachRuadh · Today 09:06

Ailbhe Rea interviewing Zack in the Staggers - she's very good at these pieces, and lets us draw our own conclusions.

Zack Polanski is still learning - New Statesman

Good piece.

'“I see people who do yoga together,” Millward declares. “Who sing together! Who dance together!” As co-deputy leader of the Greens, she says, it is her duty to “speak the truth – my truth – and to speak hope”. The crowd looks emotional.

Polanski steps up, picking up the theme. “The thing that people say to me over and over again – it would become repetitive if it wasn’t beautiful – is I’m feeling hope!” The crowd erupts in agreement'

Hope is a hell of a product to sell.

SionnachRuadh · Today 10:41

Lalgarh · Today 10:26

The "Corbzy was framed" stuff is, I guess a form of mirroring of his new base. It's a technique in dating / behaviour therapy to build empathy iirc?

And as @1984Now notes, could he really claim that the Sun hack put him up to the hypnotits stuff when he was already advertising it?

Mirroring techniques by way of Neuro Linguistic Programming are a mainstay of the dating scene. Which of course is a massive spectrum, which includes sleazy rapey PUA gurus, but extends to more ethical dating coaches who are basically just taking men with low confidence and poor social skills and giving them some techniques for talking to women. It's not all bad, but once you know the techniques you can't unsee them.

I see Zack as an unusual case of someone who's taking NLP techniques and applying them to political leadership. I sometimes wonder if he's read the late Scott Adams' book Win Bigly about the 2016 Trump campaign. Adams was a trained hypnotist and was fascinated by what he saw in Trump's persuasion techniques - it's a very perceptive book in some ways, and more people should read it, but I think Adams leans too hard into the idea that there's a super secret technique that leaders can learn to manipulate the masses.

1984Now · Today 10:42

Lalgarh · Today 10:26

The "Corbzy was framed" stuff is, I guess a form of mirroring of his new base. It's a technique in dating / behaviour therapy to build empathy iirc?

And as @1984Now notes, could he really claim that the Sun hack put him up to the hypnotits stuff when he was already advertising it?

Is that an indisputable fact? That he was promoting it actively at the time?
Because he first said it never really happened, then it did, but he was entrapped and wasn't strong enough to say no, then for him in the BBC radio interview at the time to state that it was very possible for hypnotherapy to help and indeed more research was needed.
So, you're saying it was on the list of conditions he actively promoted, and the Sun journo simply took him up on it?
Who's going to be the first current journalist to take this further and properly hold his feet to the fire?

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