Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 2

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Zack Polanski is making things bigger again.

We need a new thread to discuss all his antics and the ongoing situation in the Green party which is getting more ever more bizarre. While it is getting ever strident in denying biology it also has Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it.

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration,(https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ ) continues and the court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing.

In Bristol the Women of Wessex are causing panic amongst the ruling Green council just by turning up and asking questions. This may result in another court case.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued

With local elections in May and elections in Wales incoming lots more to discuss and call out.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of Hypno Boobs:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

The Norwich GP are absolute nutters. There was a guy who was shouting ' Nazi's' at women who were holding a silent vigil for Afghanistani women. They tried to suspend him but realised he wasn't a party member- despite being a Green counsellor. No wonder he wants nothing to do with them! ( I know he's not Norwich but it's the council elections coming up)

Green spring conference this weekend this motion is quite far down so they may not get to it. If it passes it will be hugely damaging to the Greens.

Does the Green Party support Hamas’s aims? We’ll find out this weekend
Is the party poised to endorse Hamas' armed struggle against Israel, asks a recently joined member ahead of this weekend’s conference

Ultimately the “Zionism is Racism” motion is about far more than its title suggests. It is clear in my mind that the motion, as per its supporting notes, calls on the Green Party to support existing armed Palestinian groups such as Hamas and their allies in destroying Israel and setting up a single Palestinian state. Implied in the motion’s logic is that freedom, for Palestinians at least, is just a lot more dead Jews away.
https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/does-the-green-party-support-hamass-aims-well-find-out-this-weekend/

Wasn't that "guy" a trans-identifying woman?

Final Agenda for conference. Note the E34 is the let men in women's sport motion so little chance of being voted on.

https://members.greenparty.org.uk/sites/default/files/2026-03/final-agenda-23.03.pdf

Cover story of this week's Spectator is having some fun looking at the motions:
How the Green party abandoned its environmental roots | The Spectator

I expect GPEW to be against building new airports, but the motion to demolish London City Airport, on the grounds that it's disproportionately used by rich people (from experience, it's mostly ordinary travellers, but there are lots of business flights go from there) - that's a bit wild. I suppose the plan would be replace it with lots of HMOs, because it would take a Modern Day Green to look at Newham and think the one thing the borough needs is more population density.

There's quite a lot of local jobs sustained by London city airport, though I agree it's a mad place to put an airport.

As it's national infrastructure it's also subject to nationally significant infrastructure planning approvals which infamously take YEARS to legislate changes

Other/Independents: 31 seats (+20)
Greens: 22 seats (+20)
^^
Reform UK: 19 seats (+19)

God, what would that look like? A mess that’s for sure. Unable to agree on anything.

I've used London City airport! Many years ago, but I wasn't rich back then, or now. GPEW will talk a lot about 'densification' and link it to the 15-min city concept. Not specific to any area, but there are apparently rumblings from the newer watermelon members about deselecting councillors who block development proposals: they definitely want to prioritise housing in order to keep their advantage with young voters.

The way GPEW develops policy isn't sensible for a party that aspires to join or influence government. There's no group or person coordinating and attempting to ensure that what emerges is coherent and directed. I wish (or rather I would, if I still wanted GPEW to succeed) that the party would spend some cash to set up some sort of think-tank or at least pay for research expertise on a couple of defined policy projects. There are several climate-focused think-tanks, NEF used to be light greenish and Green House hoes its own furrow, but there's nothing I'm aware of that works specifically on green (i.e. sustainable future-focused) policy for local, regional/national and UK-wide government.

Lots of people in GPEW can talk quite eloquently about what a sustainable society would look like, but they're less convincing about the intermediate steps and hopeless at coming up with ways of selling their vision to voters who are worried about costs or like their current car-owning, meat-eating lifestyle. Still doing politics as a moral crusade.

Apparently Zack drew the line at penises

https://archive.ph/CgsFI

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/03/26/breast-hypnosis-was-good-for-business-but-i-drew-the-line-a/

I'm not sure in this quote of his

he wanted “women to feel comfortable about their bodies whatever they look like”.

is of a part with his enthusiasm for people being transed or not. I suppose it depends on what he thinks a woman is. Though it would seem he would be against wrong sex hormones and surgery either way.

The cover that goes with that story is <chefs kiss>

Article says 'rampant terfdom' like its a bad thing.

Who's got a link to his blog archive, then?!

Apparently the Workers Party of Britain is far right. What are the pesky communists up to, to warrant such an accusation?

Not surprising that:

• No more NATO for the uk

• The EHRC will be targeted. There’s no such thing as competing rights.

• Sports will become transcentric (those men truly hate being told ‘no’).

• They’re also unhappy about GG forced to comply with the law and they will somehow get a workaround to stop this.

• They are calling for Israel to cease to exist. But also they recognise the original proposal looked pretty antisemitic and tried to backtrack a bit in successive amendments. So now they’re against all discrimination based on religion and ethnicity in Israel and elsewhere in the region. Not sure how that works out in practice. Ultimately they’re calling for historic Palestine to be restored with Jerusalem as its capital.

Interesting that:

• There needs to be a framework to ensure Green MPs are accountable to the GPEW. Clearly worried about controlling future MPs.

• A ‘crisis in healthcare’ translates into ‘freedom of speech for NHS workers’. Definitely related to Gaza. Just not sure how that relates to FoS? (Also, freedom for some to speak freely but not others obvs).

• They will ‘discourage’ pubs from serving processed foods. How will they do that?

• They’re also going to reduce the number of takeaways.

• It looks like they support AI, blockchain and Bitcoin. Bit confusing though. Surprising they do so given energy demands for cryptocurrency.

Summary: All in all, GPEW policies are strongly indicative of centrally planned interventist govt. Quite communist in its outlook really (even if they don’t like The Worker Party). Not sure that’s worked out well for other countries economies. Apart from China, which relies on a tightly surveilled population to ensure central govt control.

Interesting my previous post was automatically embargoed whilst MNHQ takes a look at it..

Must be AI at work triggered by certain phrases or words? I listed a few surprising and unsurprising things from the GPEW agenda. Nothing particularly controversial 🙄

It's c r y p t o. The auto screen picks it up because it's such a common spammer/scammer hook.

Ah okay. Thought it was odd!

Worker's Party are George Galloway and co. Actually surprised if they are being acknowledged as right wing. I suspect it's the gender stuff they reject that's prompted it, as they are quite aligned with left wing views on being anti Israel. It's just they are core vote of Muslim men

I suppose Galloway (and the Gaza MPs) would count as left wing if left wing were still about class and economics. But that hasn't been the case for left wing tastemakers for a long time.

GPEW might like to strike socialist poses, but I suspect that, as with much of the modern left, "left wing" means spliffs and rainbow dildos and the government paying you to be "creative".

GPEW unequivocally rule out any coalition with them due to their far right views.

They will ‘discourage’ pubs from serving processed foods. How will they do that?
They’re also going to reduce the number of takeaways.

OMG no chai lattes and Bulgarian streetfood?!

Wait. They just mean no chips for the peasants, dont they.

That's really going to hit them in south London. I don't understand the cult like following that Morleys fried chicken has south of the river, but I do know Sadiq Khan sounds much more animated bigging up Morleys than when he's talking about anything political. He might as well be a company spokesman.

Yes, and all of those lovely heritage vehicles selling freshly baked chia seed muffins, sweet potato fries and halloumi can stay.

Aw, come off it. If the commies get power you know we'll all be queuing up for our weekly potato, to be cooked over a candle scored on the blackmarket.

Cf Zarah Sultana and nationalised food production.

Owen Jones: "But what about kiosks?"

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRvL5INAuTf/