Ofcom will now investigate Talk Tv re transphobia.

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Here we go again.

From Good Law Project:

We said we’d sue over Ofcom’s decision to dismiss 22,000 complaints about transphobia on TalkTV – now the regulator has caved.

But we had monitored its output for July 2025, a month in which it carried 11 discussions on trans people. And in every discussion, its hosts and guests consistently spouted transphobic views. TalkTV’s stance mirrors the broader editorial position of its sister newspaper The Times, whose toxic and intellectually dishonest campaign against trans people we believe to be a contributor to the rise in hate crime against them.

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Among my misdeeds, apparently, is that I said this on air: "By definition, if you’ve had to get a piece of paper to say that you are a woman, you must accept then that you are man."

I'm happy to be found guilty of defending women's rights and safety, knowing the actual law, understanding basic biology and knowing what a woman is. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Their identity is false though, isn’t it? They weren’t born a baby girl. They were born a boy.

But I don't need to paperwork to say I something I'm not, do I. Transpeople already have the paperwork to say who they are. They just don't like it, so feel the need to get new paperwork to say they are something they are not. Big difference.

Yes, we all have bits of paper proving who we are.

There's also a thing called a Gender Recognition Certificate, but only a small percentage of trans people have one, and following the Supreme Court's ruling in FWS, it has about as much legal significance as a certificate saying you belong to the Green Lantern Corps.

The one residual effect of the GRC is that it allows the holder to procure a falsified birth certificate, which I strongly believe should be disallowed.

Genius!

Exactly that. The ones who respect women’s spaces, I have no problem with. The others deserve es all the scorn they can get. Oh, and it’s not trans people, it’s specifically trans women who breach female boundaries that I’m scorning.

You have such a way with words @SionnachRuadh😂

But this thread had nothing to do with women's spaces?

Didn’t say it did, but I can still scorn men who use them, right?

It does, as the incorrect use of language dismisses women's space in the linguistic world. Which then translates to the physical.

Come on, you're being silly now.

Of course it's logical. A marriage certificate says I'm married. A birth certificate that says you were born the opposite sex is untrue.

Is it transphobic to say that people are “not actually born in the wrong body”?

I have no interest in discussing these photos.

I bet.

I, on the other hand, will post them whenever relevant.

And they are of course entirely relevant to the question of whether a self selecting group of men should access women’s toilets, changing rooms etc.

Maybe my explanation re space was too, ahem, 'academic' for our furry friend.

Oh I think maybe they fancy themself as the academic, @murasaki

Maybe they identify as one.

Why exactly should transwomen be protected from 'scorn' anymore than any other human being.It's precisely this demand for special treatment that provokes a back lash.
You are obviously scornful of JHB and all the PPs but that's ok?
This thread isn't about abusive, boundary crossing men, it's about whether the statement in the OP about trans women is appropriately called transphobic.
It's actually about the fanticism of Jolyon M and the response of Ofcom.
Just continually saying 'that's transphobic' is playground stuff.

Would you like to clarify :

Who is and is not transgender, in your opinion? since you have called any male person who takes photos in bathrooms as 'abusive, boundary crossing men' and denied their trans status.

What is a gender identity?

I say it is a philosophical belief that doesn't reflect material reality. Considering there is no biological marker to indicate that that person is transgender, what else can it be?

Bollocks. The lived realities of transwomen is that they are men.

I'm not married. Do I need a piece of paper to say I'm not married...or a bloke...or Russian <worried>

Anyone who pretends to be the opposite sex is taking a roundabout way of avoiding scorn.

Different kinds of paperwork ‘proves’ different things. A passport may prove citizenship, but a GRC literally demonstrates that a person is the opposite biological sex to that they identify as. No biological woman needs, or would be issued, a GRC proving she is a woman. GRCs claiming womanhood are only, by definition, given to men.

Also has anyone ever seen puppy and Howse on the same thread? I’m trying to figure out if it’s a rota and Howse has taken a break or if we only have one recurrent scolder who has a variety of usernames.

While both the posters that you mention have the same effect as the feeling down the back of my top after a haircut, they have very different styles.

Fair. I just find it so depressing when they take over threads that are nothing to do with them. Also menopause brain means that I forget what the thread was about.

@Igmum I'm fairly sure puppy is another of our old friends.