Ofcom will now investigate Talk Tv re transphobia.

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Here we go again.

From Good Law Project:

We said we’d sue over Ofcom’s decision to dismiss 22,000 complaints about transphobia on TalkTV – now the regulator has caved.

But we had monitored its output for July 2025, a month in which it carried 11 discussions on trans people. And in every discussion, its hosts and guests consistently spouted transphobic views. TalkTV’s stance mirrors the broader editorial position of its sister newspaper The Times, whose toxic and intellectually dishonest campaign against trans people we believe to be a contributor to the rise in hate crime against them.

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Among my misdeeds, apparently, is that I said this on air: "By definition, if you’ve had to get a piece of paper to say that you are a woman, you must accept then that you are man."

I'm happy to be found guilty of defending women's rights and safety, knowing the actual law, understanding basic biology and knowing what a woman is. 🤷🏻‍♀️

But the reality is that sex / gender cannot be reduced to genitalia or chromosomes.

Fundamentally it's about knowing whether you are the kind of person who might have to push an entire human being out of your body, whether or not this was something you wanted to do.

Oh I dare.

These are simply very common stereotypes/
prejudices about trans people which I know very well have little if anything to do with the actual realities of being trans .

So you may claim to know trans people and this is the truth about them: I know you are simply projecting/ justifying bogus stereotypes.

Is it? So can you explain how the Taliban know exactly which humans to oppress? How do people performing FGM on girls know which girls to cut? In rural China how do families know which babies are left to die? I mean, I assume they’re not doing extensive genetic testing are they? It is actually that simple. Men oppress women because they know women are female because they have female genitalia. They don’t do testing first.

I'm relating facts about people who I know very well.

And you're saying that you know what's really in my mind?

You've made a lot of bold claims on this thread, but telepathy is a new one on me.

Unless you're just being casually insulting, which is exactly what I would expect from a fanatic like you.

Called it!! We got the wibbly wobbly sex stuff. Please send 20 tunnocks!!

Yeah. The promise not to be obnoxious didn’t last long….

I'm relating facts about people who I know very well.

I'm not sure how I can be clearer that I don't believe this for a second. You are relating common prejudices/ stereotypes about trans people which I know have nothing to do with the actual realities of being trans.

I know more than one trans-identified person. One of these is my son. It became clear that he wished me to use his new self-chosen name (which I occasionally manage to use, though I am uncertain as to this being in his long-term interests) and feminine pronouns. I have been shouted and screamed at, and accused of bigotry and transphobia, for naturally using sex-based pronouns, partly from habit and partly because they reflect physical reality, and failing to apologise profusely for my "mistakes".

I initially assumed that I must be missing something. My friendship circle all assumed that it is right to use preferred pronouns, and I thought there must be some coherent reasons why gender identity makes sense and we should all do as the transgender people and their allies say. So I started reading and listening to people, and having discussions with the very few trans people / allies who were willing to debate. I came to the conclusion, particularly after reading a couple of books that misrepresented science by implicitly redefining terms such as "spectrum" to apply to sex, that gender identity theory is built on very shaky foundations.

Then I found my way here, where I discovered coherent and compelling arguments for sex being binary not a "spectrum" and gender being the societal constructs which put men and women into stereotype boxes. I discovered that gender identity theory actually pushes the intolerance that results in transgender people rejecting the families who love them because disagreement is redefined as "hatred". I discovered that gender identity theory encourages and pushes medical and surgical "solutions" to psychological problems, feelings of not fitting in, which all the autistic people in my family know well, including my son. I came to see that gender identity theory denies the reality of sex, and has a tendency towards homophobia and misogyny.

Parents who question gender identity ideas are rarely able to speak openly, because our trans identifying children have been taught to see us as enemies, and we are desperately trying to hang on to some contact with them. Some parents, who want to protect their children from an ideology that would encourage the damaging of their endocrine systems and even in extreme case the mutilation of their genitals, are seen as a danger by for example teachers and social workers. We are in a horrible bind. If we do and say nothing, we are complicit in the damage. If we speak up, we are painted as bigots and abusers. If we go along with gender identity ideas, we have to support the damage to our children's health.

I think you have misunderstood the point being made, which was not about the extent to which these people are representative (although they don't seem to be that unusual), but that they are all lumped together despite having vastly different experiences.

Looking at the demographic changes in people identifying as trans (and the increase in people with non-binary identities) it is clear that this is a heterogeneous group.

Abd I don’t believe you when you say the accepted definitions of male, female and sex are wrong so there’s thst. You’re sounding more and more like that other TRA numpty every post.

How is your son and your relationship with him now?

They certainly aren't checking anyone's identity.

Has Puppy actually used 'she' pronouns for Seethlaw? Who I know is always very chill and understanding about pronouns, but I do think it's huge hypocrisy for a TRA to use female pronouns for a transman. And I don't think for a minute that puppy would be using male pronouns for a trans identified man.

That's okay, it was a misunderstanding that's been cleared.

Re: examples 2 and 3, plenty of women have spoken of being married to such a man, and plenty of women have spoken about being that teenage girl.

These aren't 'stereotypes', they are stories real people have told about their lives.

Wrong type of lived experience, clearly

And as for example 1, someone very close to me was that young man. We don't hear much these days about the old-school gay male transsexuals, because they tend to mind their own business and they're heavily outnumbered by the straight male transvestites.

Some people get very upset when fetishistic transvestism is mentioned. It's not for me to speculate why.

Re: examples 2 and 3, plenty of women have spoken of being married to such a man

And? My parents are divorced. mum tells all kinds of stories about my dad. And vice versa. I mostly roll my eyes at both.

and plenty of women have spoken about being that teenage girl.

lots of middle aged GC women looking back saying "oh I was a tomboy as a teen, if I lived today they would have transed me!"
Nothing to do with the realities of actual trans people's lives.

Refusing to consider any data point that doesn't fit with your pre-conceived hypothesis is not proper science.

Also: I believe Example 3 is about detransitioners: loads and loads of young women coming out these days, explaining they only transitioned because they were promised a life free of femaleness, only to realise that's not how it works.

What about Debbie Hayton who has written about how his trans identity is due to sexual arousal at presenting as a woman? He fully admits that he's AGP so does that make him the wrong type of trans for you?

middle aged GC women

Bingo!

I was so close - just waiting for 'genital inspection' on mine.

Nothing to do with the realities of actual trans people's lives.

What authority do you have to know what are the realities of actual trans people's lives when you reject the testimony of an actual trans person? You claim to be a straight woman with children so why are you so invested in this ideology? Is one or more of your children "gender questioning"? Are you "transing" your child?

It is quite clear that, just like on that previous thread, we are not going to get beyond 'sex is complicated', 'woman is a feeling' and 'trans is whatever I say it is'.

There will certainly not be any coherent reasoning as to why gender should override sex in all situations in which sex matters.

I would like to thank @Seethlaw for her insightful contributions. I think she is actually one of the sanest people posting on these threads 💚💜

And? My parents are divorced. mum tells all kinds of stories about my dad. And vice versa. I mostly roll my eyes at both.

I assume that these women aren't sharing stories about their husband's fetishes with their children, so I don't really see the link, but it is concerning that your default position is that women lie about their abuse.

lots of middle aged GC women looking back saying "oh I was a tomboy as a teen, if I lived today they would have transed me!"
Nothing to do with the realities of actual trans people's lives.

You do seem quite threatened when gender non conforming lesbians and detransisitoners tell their stories.