Sara Morrison vs Belfast Film Festival - Thread 2

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Continuation of previous thread - don’t have all the details to hand to add here, so if someone can pop them on, pls do! Want to get this up quickly!

I suppose I should be pleased that though annoying and fiddly, it worked OK for me. As my directorship involves a lot of time consuming, unpaid work, I’m at least grateful for that.

This may be a misread of social media, I am far from expert in it's ways. But 'Professor' Boyd is said to live in Armagh, and to have a 22yr old daughter named Zoe. There is a Zoe Boyd of that approximate age operating beauty salons in Armagh/Portadown. That same Zoe Boyd appears to be in a relationship with a somewhat gender-fluid female called Frankie Byrne.

https://www.facebook.com/zoe.boyd.71/posts/pfbid0YrdNKX7sXdKpSwKzHHsEqMo5AZoaoY4hV2AMU6k4QnD3uuJEjqaLhNFboGsVozQ3l

https://www.facebook.com/zoe.boyd.71/posts/pfbid0ZW5zd2zZxcUEGsgUkyLSNScE21vmnYySVRknSgegJjaHVXsBKwjtmsSVsvWfoDpyl

This is highly speculative and must not be taken as fact, but if that's the same Zoe Boyd it's quite possible that her mother would have firm views on trans rights etc.

I think that Helen Joyce (as ever) is confirmed with every single one of these cases.

Look at Jolyon too.

It looks as if she's been writing reports on waste management in Northern Ireland for UK Government. Was due diligence done?

Was reading through the details of yesterday again. I thought NC point about what bias is in this context was an important distinction.

https://x.com/nickwallis/status/1989341894648959321?t=W85uUEsUTQQmaD64c_Enow&s=19

I also think she did very well to remain calm and clear about what the concerns were and why they were bringing them in the face of a tantrum from SD.

Wonder if he still thinks their reasoning was flimsy....

Yes that’s all correct

It's almost as if she ran out of the room for another reason and then needed her medication.

Hmmmm.

The Judge is up to her neck in it.

Thanks goodness for NW and TT and everyone demanding open justice.

They both show up here for re-appointment in 2011

McKeown is on Employment and Industrial Tribunals
https://archive.niassembly.gov.uk/researchandlibrary/deposited_papers/2011//dp829.pdf

That’s exactly what I would say we saw.

I can believe she is unwell and needs medication. But there are too many holes in the narrative.

Maybe took a rager / header then needed her meds?

The other thing is that bias is not about fairness to parties it's about public confidence in the fairness of justice.

Just reiterating this.

This line is of the utmost relevance here and this is what need to be focused on by the likes of SD. It is not whether he thinks the grounds are flimsy, it is if the grounds are enough to jeopardise the public's faith in the process.

Im not sure the judge really weighed this up in the heat of the moment.

Mrs Boyd, not Professor Boyd ...

Well that's interesting. She just shows up as Mrs. on that.

Absolutely this.

Which is why I was concerned that SD said he would oppose a recusal even before he knew what it was about!

Mrs D Boyd. No sign of Prof.

According to this the same Empey is responsible for appointing DB to the tribunal panel and Invest NI and these 2 other boards?

Useful friendship

Good point.

And the judge telling everyone NC and CE were being disrespectful when actually they were treating due process and professional responsibility with the utmost respect indeed.

Although, I think he had to put on a show because he is a bit out of his depth, perhaps. The rage seems like cover for, perhaps, being fully salient that what matters is not bias per se (tricky to prove) but the perception of it and so public trust. He couldn’t just agree that they need to take the application seriously off the bat because he didn’t know where that would lead so he hopes outrage would give him time. He was also following the outrage signal sent out by Sturgeon earlier. Both out of their depth perhaps. Beginning by being overly confident and through the testimony being a bit shaken by NC SKILL.

Sitting in the room it does not look to the public that a fair hearing is possible.

• A likely fraud who supports LGBTQ hashtags?
• Someone who needs meds but runs away from her bag
• A judge saying that’s not how we do things here and othering the wee English cutties.
• Interjections any time Naomi starts to talk about trans issues
• And a very angry judge.

I think that's probably the case.

I can't imagine being so bold as to fight NC with bluster, as her icy clarity would make me freeze.

But it did seem that the over the top 'how very dare you?' as tactical and belied panic or lack of experience. It probably works a lot to shut people up. Just not our kind of people.

https://www.irishnews.com/lifestyle/2014/07/17/news/the-belfast-blues-96951/

A better photo

It was also really noticeable that Sturgeon’s outrage did not progress into admonishments after applications were submitted.

I think because she is agin these uppity big shots from over there coming into her patch she just reacted to their lateness as something signalling disrespect to her and her position because she is convinced they do disrespect her and her position.

She failed to have her listening ears on, as they say, and if she had she would have tuned into the fact something very serious was afoot and would have taken a deep breath in and not thrown a tantrum AND chucked her toys out the pram (to totally mix my metaphors) by threatening to lift MD’s oath as punishment to SM’s team.

She will be aware the climb down made her look a bit of an arse. She must have spent most of that hour trying to find law that would support that decision but came there none.

SD was of course going to oppose no matter the evidence.

Because if most of your work is employment and there are literally only 5 Judges you will ever encounter can your mortgage or network take the risk of losing all your cases?

‘That’s not how we do things here’

• We don’t challenge Judges
• Send a solicitor instead of Counsel
• Speak true things out loud about women’s rights
• Check credentials of ‘Profs’
• And we definitely never not ever ever make an application for recusal.

Yes this speaks to bias.

She was willing to prejudice the claimant because her Counsel was drafting an application.

She actually suggested doing something illegal to spite Naomi and Charlotte.
She was spitting and said she’d do it. Not she would consider it, she would do it.

And then had to retreat since it was an illegal act.

But oh no not a hint of bias.

How dare Sara get a team of people who supported her and stand up for her rights! This isn’t how it’s supposed to go around ‘here’.

This old webpage re. Re3 states she was visiting professor and University of Ulster and tutor and Queens Belfast.

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160820153951/re3group.com/view.php?PID=47&TID=2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20160820153951/re3group.com/view.php?PID=47&TID=2

Feel like you could switch some words in this title (and article) now...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/crkl5rzd7ggo.amp