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Sara Morrison vs Belfast Film Festival - Thread 2

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TwoLoonsAndASprout · 14/11/2025 13:42

Continuation of previous thread - don’t have all the details to hand to add here, so if someone can pop them on, pls do! Want to get this up quickly!

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Easytoconfuse · 15/11/2025 11:07

Please can wiser people than me confirm that a major part of a tribunal judge's role is really to ensure that the tribunal finishes on time? (Judge quoted as saying this in the BBC.)

fanOfBen · 15/11/2025 11:08

Easytoconfuse · 15/11/2025 11:07

Please can wiser people than me confirm that a major part of a tribunal judge's role is really to ensure that the tribunal finishes on time? (Judge quoted as saying this in the BBC.)

Lol, if so a lot of the tribunal judges we know and love are failing at a large part of their jobs! I mean, I suppose it's nobody else's job in that room, so in a way...

SionnachRuadh · 15/11/2025 11:09

McKeowns are ten a penny in Belfast. But surnames in NI are not a deep pool.

I share a surname with a fairly notorious IRA figure who used to be prominent in politics for SF. We're not related as far as I know, but some people assumed she was my aunt or something.

This is nothing compared to things I've found in my genealogical research, including a wedding in Tyrone where the bride and groom and both of the witnesses all had the same surname, and the groom had the exact same name as the bride's father.

So I don't read too much into surnames. We are an insular people, but we are not Deliverance... not quite.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 15/11/2025 11:09

DB updated her FB profile pic in Oct this year. One comment reads "Looking good doctor", which I thought was curious.

fanOfBen · 15/11/2025 11:11

weegielass · 15/11/2025 10:42

DB is easy to find on FB - she's the one with the side profile picture and the eyeshadow. If you look at who has liked that photo - michelle devlin is one. I assume its the same michelle devlin. How can the ET not check in advance for that kind of bias??? and Michael McKeown appears to be union rep / director for the NIPSA union which is supportive of LGBT rights although there is nothing about what he personally believes that I can find online. This is all public information btw that anyone can search for.

I haven't found DB on FB, but I have found a Michele Devlin, via her having liked a post on the Belfast Film Festival page. She looks like the right one but it spelled that way, with one l in the first name. (And the BBC spells the one in the tribunal with one l, as well.) So if the one you found has two ls, I'm going to guess it's not the same person.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 15/11/2025 11:12

Michael McKeown appears to be union rep / director for the NIPSA union which is supportive of LGBT rights

All unions are. So if the employee rep on a panel.is a union person - which they almost always are - you're not going to get one from.an impartial union.

MTCoffeePot · 15/11/2025 11:13

Curioser and curioser.... all riveting stuff! I've noticed listings of DB as 'Professor Mrs Deborah Boyd' which sounds odd. I wonder if it is possible DB has extensively cleaned her media profile and has also scrubbed details of her qualifications in the process. Just a thought.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 15/11/2025 11:13

AnnoyingAlarm · 15/11/2025 11:02

I'm definitely getting too into it! But having fun!

It's absorbing and compelling for sure, but let's not forget SM, for whom this whole situation is anything but fun. Not a personal criticism of you, just thinking we need to remember what a roller coaster this must be for her.

SionnachRuadh · 15/11/2025 11:18

NIPSA is also one of those unions that (thanks to far left activists winning elected positions on tiny turnouts) has policy positions on all manner of issues. I do not know if NIPSA has spoken on France's colonial oppression of New Caledonia, but if not, it's because the Trots haven't heard of New Caledonia and decided to push through their zillionth resolution on Palestine instead.

I personally think unions should do a lot less of that and a lot more about pay and conditions.

But it will not be possible to find an unbiased union on TQ+, because all the unions endorse Pride and assume it's above politics.

KittyWilkinson · 15/11/2025 11:20

Easytoconfuse · 15/11/2025 11:07

Please can wiser people than me confirm that a major part of a tribunal judge's role is really to ensure that the tribunal finishes on time? (Judge quoted as saying this in the BBC.)

I wouldn't call it a major part, although the Judge should see that the process goes as smoothly and to time as possible. Surely it is that justice should be seen to be done in an open and transparent way is most important?

"The overriding objective of both sets of Regulations is to enable tribunals and Employment Judges to deal with the cases justly.
Dealing with cases justly includes, so far as practicable
a) ensuring that the parties are on an equal footing;
b) dealing with the case in ways which are proportionate to the complexity or importance of the issues;
c) ensuring that cases are dealt with expeditiously and fairly;
d) and saving expense.

Tribunals and Employment Judges are required to give effect to the overriding objective when exercising any power provided by the Regulations or the Rules within the Schedules to the Regulations or when interpreting them and the parties are required to assist the tribunal and the Employment Judge to further the overriding objective."
Source:THE NATURE OF THE WORK OF THE FULL-TIME CHAIRMEN IN INDUSTRIAL TRIBUNALS AND THE FAIR EMPLOYMENT TRIBUNAL

AnnoyingAlarm · 15/11/2025 11:21

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 15/11/2025 11:13

It's absorbing and compelling for sure, but let's not forget SM, for whom this whole situation is anything but fun. Not a personal criticism of you, just thinking we need to remember what a roller coaster this must be for her.

Absolutely and I had these thoughts yesterday.

But her very jaunty sm posting, in the last few hours even, reassured me that I am ok to keep on with my weekend dabbling.

I really hope that SM feels really well supported with incredibly capable legal team, her finding sources and also the groundswell of support from people out and about reacting to what's gone on. After being through such stress in a fairly isolated way I really hope there is something gratifying and healing in the wider audience reactions.

BettyBooper · 15/11/2025 11:21

MTCoffeePot · 15/11/2025 11:13

Curioser and curioser.... all riveting stuff! I've noticed listings of DB as 'Professor Mrs Deborah Boyd' which sounds odd. I wonder if it is possible DB has extensively cleaned her media profile and has also scrubbed details of her qualifications in the process. Just a thought.

I agree, I think she has deleted stuff.

But I don't know how you would scrub info about a professorship if it was genuine? Or why you would?

weegielass · 15/11/2025 11:26

thanks @fanOfBen I think your finding is probably the right one then, I just found it really curious but as PPs have said, maybe there's just a lot of same names in NI!

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 15/11/2025 11:27

AnnoyingAlarm · 15/11/2025 11:21

Absolutely and I had these thoughts yesterday.

But her very jaunty sm posting, in the last few hours even, reassured me that I am ok to keep on with my weekend dabbling.

I really hope that SM feels really well supported with incredibly capable legal team, her finding sources and also the groundswell of support from people out and about reacting to what's gone on. After being through such stress in a fairly isolated way I really hope there is something gratifying and healing in the wider audience reactions.

Glad to hear about her jaunty SM postings, that's reassuring.
Another strong woman with ovaries of steel.

Largofesse · 15/11/2025 11:37

I'm going to disagree with those thinking the misuse of the title Professor is less important than potential TRA bias. I think, if true, it demonstrates a dishonesty which is entirely incompatible with the expectations of the sort of authority lay persons are given on ET panels and with due process.

My evolving theory based on all your critical thinking skills, offerings, research, questions and devil’s advocacy, plus NW’s BEAUTIFUL journalism is below.

Most of this is drawn from here, TT and NS blog and almost entirely speculative.

When taking the case NC Team was aware that the impact of the Stonewalled Bench Book on the judiciary in Northern Ireland has had a longer lasting impact across the board than in the UK where Judges, for the most part, seem to have left that bit of aberrant guidance behind.

NC and CE are, I’m sure, absolutely fed up to the back teeth with the fact that their normally estimable profession has been so open to such ridiculous pressure and has no respect for those who continue to let it unduly influence their approach.

It is noticeable to me that she has shown much less respect for Judge Sturgeon than Judge Kemp as although she argued robustly with Kemp at times she always flavoured her arguments with terms and phrases affording him the respect of his position. It stood out to me that she wasn’t doing this with Sturgeon. That might be due to how NW summarises v TTs but I don’t think so because it was consistent across most of the encounters in different ways. NC might have held Kemp in greater respect due to the fact that Kemp managed a fair approach to pronouns etc very effectively so demonstrated lack of capture in his management of court proceedings. Sturgeon has offered no clarity or broader sense of this and it might be because it is much less pertinent here as no one offering testimony is trans identified. But for all that, Sturgeon has clearly demonstrated a ‘tude’ towards Johnny Foreigner advocates coming in to her court and has shown, in my view, bias in her behaviour in court on this, and has consistently intervened to interrupt NC’s questioning which I had viewed more fairly earlier in that I thought she might be trying to prevent NC using the case as a platform to air wider issues but now I think she was intending to prevent NC opening up aspects of the case around GI to protect the court, as it were, from GC thought.

Moving onto Boyd, lay panel members would get training around the Bench Book and its updates. Perhaps other Rainbow training might also have been offered/ available.

I don’t know when the legal teams get to know who will be the panel but I imagine there is some notice given. If so I’m sure NC Team’s networks will have informed them (on the quiet) that they know PB to be TRA adjacent and so the team will have looked for evidence before coming to court. However, the social media postings are before the TRA campaign was noticed as controversial in any meaningful way (last one 2019?) and could be read as innocent of GI bias but it is also, perhaps, unwise of her, knowing that this is easily available, not to declare this as something the court should be aware of and then make sure it can’t be used to establish a potential for bias given the parameters of this case. Now she might just be so unaware of controversy that this didn’t occur to her but given the postings on SM, and the date the last was posted (which does, in fact, suggest knowledge or she would still be posting Pride flags) that also would seem a stretch.

I think she has been making her bias felt off stage, as it were, and Sturgeon has been working to reign it in because she doesn’t want any risk that she will be found wanting by her peers if it comes to an appeal. I think judges always operate with one eye on the risk of appeal and whilst she wouldn’t be placing too much worry on a case around a small entity like BFF I think she will be aware of what comes with NC’s Team and how that increases the likelihood. So I think where Boyd, in their private discussions, has previously strayed into captured territory, Sturgeon has managed to steer them clear but I suspect underneath her steering them clear she is herself inclined that way although what drives her more is her annoyance at NC being in her court at all.

I think NC’s Team have known all along that this is the framing and no matter how successful the trial goes for them the framing will belie the significance of the evidence ie that the dissembling, lying and contradictory accounts given by MC and MD will be lessened in the judgement to just be a minor issue, of memory and less than great organisation, rather than anything amounting to harassment, hostility or constructive dismissal, but that that in itself would not be grounds for an appeal (and from an earlier posting it is not quite clear what the process of appeals are in ETs in NI).

Then in court Boyd could not disguise her responses to typically TRA areas of strong offence ie pronouns and calling a man a man. This was noticed separately by a number of those present and so clearly stood out. I think that previously Boyd will have asked Sturgeon if she can affect more control of the language in court and that Sturgeon has told her no but that has been the impetus behind some of her interventions. I also think when Boyd asked the court to rise suddenly, mid flow of testimony, because she ‘had a concern’ that this was to do with the use of pronouns etc but that Sturgeon knowing what was coming cut her off from making that declaration and, duly warned, Boyd had changed her ‘concern’ from one to do with activity within the court to a personal concern re pain management. As we all know, as many of us are managing pain ourselves and are well used to managing, say, period pain in professional environments, we don’t halt proceedings unless so ill we have to stop completely. If you are able to return within 5 minutes it is unlikely that you were in such pain you couldn’t have held out for a break or used a pause to request an earlier break. (I can’t go so far as to thinking Sturgeon would actually lie about what they discussed so this seems the most plausible)

Then on Thursday clear evidence of a connection to a group mentioned in SM’s talk at LWS is provided to NC’s team and so they do all that they can to establish that and any other connections, looking for anything substantive about her TRA adjacency. They felt unsure that what they had was sufficiently strong but looking at the preponderance of evidence it was their only real chance at challenging that framework and if they didn’t do it then they couldn’t credibly do it later for an appeal, say, as they would be challenged on why they had let time pass before bringing it forward. Given that the case was going swimmingly for NC they had to weigh up making this application against the likelihood that the panel were not going to be fair in the long run and given Sturgeon’s clear bias against them (not how we do things here) the had to take the risk.

Then on Friday morning they had to work with what they had so furiously wrote up the applications and had no time to pay court due respect. Judge furious because she is already agin Johnny Foreigner and her anger at that is already bubbling underneath so this just lights the fire and she expresses herself in an intemperate way that later embarrassed her (she said she could lift MC being under oath which she couldn’t for example and also had to recuse a panel member so without knowing what was going on she could have admonished without the emotional reactiveness. To me that is clear evidence of her bias against NC Team). A journo slipped them a note which added to their position but we are unclear what that note said.

At this point it has not occurred to anyone on NC’s team to interrogate the Prof title because they have been focussed on the TRA adjacency, quite rightly.

After the clear management of the reasons why Boyd is recusing herself which avoided tackling the question of her associations in a very direct way, and I think it is safe to infer here that Sturgeon is worried about putting anything on record that might prove to be untrue once further digging has occurred, speculation about Boyd is triggered in the public and citizen researcher begins to do the digging.

Unexpectedly, in that digging, folk are not coming up with anything particularly damning re TRA views but can’t source what should be easily accessible information re her professional status. It matters to look into her professional status because if organisations and networks are clearly TRA that would be problematic if also undeclared. In that digging people begin to notice that no one can find any evidence of degrees or academic credentials that justify the title Professor. There are particular routes available to use that title. It affords huge status professionally speaking and will lend enormous weight to a sense of her ability for critical thinking and to informing a non-partisan view on the positions of claimants and respondents (we know this is not always true but it is a general view of the status the title affords and, coupled with the expectations of how lay panel members are expected to operate is important, matters).

If she is misusing that title there are huge ramifications because lay panel members have to be seem to be honest and above board in all their dealings. If they are not it undermines the whole system of justice. If she has misused that title then it also will have huge ramifications beyond this case, as the powers that be will need to reassess all their pay panel members and the whole process of their appointments. It will potentially also undermine any cases she has previously sat on. It will also be HUGELY embarrassing for Sturgeon (as some wit amongst you mentioned earlier how do you do things here will come back to bite her big time).

So here we are. We hope that some journo with contacts will do the due diligence. We hope that NC Team has become aware. Twitter is now quietly aware of the issue so it is going to grow legs over the weekend more widely, I think.

SionnachRuadh · 15/11/2025 11:39

I basically think the professorship is a side issue, and what it boils down to is:

  • Belfast Pride, like Pride pretty much everywhere, has leaned heavily into the TQ++++ stuff, with highly controversial positions - eg opposing the puberty blockers ban
  • In right thinking society, Pride is seen as virtuous and uncontroversial and above politics - basically it's gay lads getting pissed and having a party, and let's not pay too much attention to the more contentious stuff
  • It might be possible to work in the arts world and fly under the radar as a terf, but if the Pride crowd have you in their sights, your position is untenable

I read the bias issue as really being about SM being targeted by the Pride crowd, while there's a view that since Pride is above politics, a panel member being heavily into supporting Pride is no big deal - and that really goes to the heart of the case.

Lots of the discrimination case law in NI has been built around the concept of the Neutral Working Environment, and how it might be detrimental to Catholics to have a workplace festooned with Union Jacks and portraits of the Queen (or, by extension, women might object to Page 3 pinups in the workplace).

I don't think it's ever been fought out on the GC vs Pride front. That's what makes it so interesting and important.

NebulousDeadline · 15/11/2025 11:52

Great post @Largofesse
Agin is a great, underused word

Mention of genealogy up thread reminded me that British Newspaper Archive or Find My Past's newspaper archive is a great source even into 1990s and later. Unfortunately I have used up my free trail a while ago. Portadown Times, Lurgan Mail or Armagh Observer would have loved a Lurgan Tech pupil done good story.

anyolddinosaur · 15/11/2025 11:53

Interesting though the discussions are about academic credentials for me they really only come in to this as relevant to her involvement with Pride. She has shown previous support for Belfast Pride, probably because her daughter and partner support it. So can she set that aside and judge this case fairly on its merits. The academic stuff makes me less likely to believe that.

BettyBooper · 15/11/2025 11:53

@Largofesse Thanks for this analysis. Spot on, I think.

There was also the bit with the Judge requesting change to the wording of the anonymity order. Can't remember in detail now her response and have to rush out now, but I found that whole section very interesting at the time.

Akela64 · 15/11/2025 11:55

Michael Mckeown is connected to prominent members of both the business and media community in Newry and Belfast.

Would this not be a consideration into the appropriateness of participation in this tribunal?

Not to say it shows bias but that it could be perceived as such. Appearances matter.

SexRealistic · 15/11/2025 12:04

Largofesse · 15/11/2025 11:37

I'm going to disagree with those thinking the misuse of the title Professor is less important than potential TRA bias. I think, if true, it demonstrates a dishonesty which is entirely incompatible with the expectations of the sort of authority lay persons are given on ET panels and with due process.

My evolving theory based on all your critical thinking skills, offerings, research, questions and devil’s advocacy, plus NW’s BEAUTIFUL journalism is below.

Most of this is drawn from here, TT and NS blog and almost entirely speculative.

When taking the case NC Team was aware that the impact of the Stonewalled Bench Book on the judiciary in Northern Ireland has had a longer lasting impact across the board than in the UK where Judges, for the most part, seem to have left that bit of aberrant guidance behind.

NC and CE are, I’m sure, absolutely fed up to the back teeth with the fact that their normally estimable profession has been so open to such ridiculous pressure and has no respect for those who continue to let it unduly influence their approach.

It is noticeable to me that she has shown much less respect for Judge Sturgeon than Judge Kemp as although she argued robustly with Kemp at times she always flavoured her arguments with terms and phrases affording him the respect of his position. It stood out to me that she wasn’t doing this with Sturgeon. That might be due to how NW summarises v TTs but I don’t think so because it was consistent across most of the encounters in different ways. NC might have held Kemp in greater respect due to the fact that Kemp managed a fair approach to pronouns etc very effectively so demonstrated lack of capture in his management of court proceedings. Sturgeon has offered no clarity or broader sense of this and it might be because it is much less pertinent here as no one offering testimony is trans identified. But for all that, Sturgeon has clearly demonstrated a ‘tude’ towards Johnny Foreigner advocates coming in to her court and has shown, in my view, bias in her behaviour in court on this, and has consistently intervened to interrupt NC’s questioning which I had viewed more fairly earlier in that I thought she might be trying to prevent NC using the case as a platform to air wider issues but now I think she was intending to prevent NC opening up aspects of the case around GI to protect the court, as it were, from GC thought.

Moving onto Boyd, lay panel members would get training around the Bench Book and its updates. Perhaps other Rainbow training might also have been offered/ available.

I don’t know when the legal teams get to know who will be the panel but I imagine there is some notice given. If so I’m sure NC Team’s networks will have informed them (on the quiet) that they know PB to be TRA adjacent and so the team will have looked for evidence before coming to court. However, the social media postings are before the TRA campaign was noticed as controversial in any meaningful way (last one 2019?) and could be read as innocent of GI bias but it is also, perhaps, unwise of her, knowing that this is easily available, not to declare this as something the court should be aware of and then make sure it can’t be used to establish a potential for bias given the parameters of this case. Now she might just be so unaware of controversy that this didn’t occur to her but given the postings on SM, and the date the last was posted (which does, in fact, suggest knowledge or she would still be posting Pride flags) that also would seem a stretch.

I think she has been making her bias felt off stage, as it were, and Sturgeon has been working to reign it in because she doesn’t want any risk that she will be found wanting by her peers if it comes to an appeal. I think judges always operate with one eye on the risk of appeal and whilst she wouldn’t be placing too much worry on a case around a small entity like BFF I think she will be aware of what comes with NC’s Team and how that increases the likelihood. So I think where Boyd, in their private discussions, has previously strayed into captured territory, Sturgeon has managed to steer them clear but I suspect underneath her steering them clear she is herself inclined that way although what drives her more is her annoyance at NC being in her court at all.

I think NC’s Team have known all along that this is the framing and no matter how successful the trial goes for them the framing will belie the significance of the evidence ie that the dissembling, lying and contradictory accounts given by MC and MD will be lessened in the judgement to just be a minor issue, of memory and less than great organisation, rather than anything amounting to harassment, hostility or constructive dismissal, but that that in itself would not be grounds for an appeal (and from an earlier posting it is not quite clear what the process of appeals are in ETs in NI).

Then in court Boyd could not disguise her responses to typically TRA areas of strong offence ie pronouns and calling a man a man. This was noticed separately by a number of those present and so clearly stood out. I think that previously Boyd will have asked Sturgeon if she can affect more control of the language in court and that Sturgeon has told her no but that has been the impetus behind some of her interventions. I also think when Boyd asked the court to rise suddenly, mid flow of testimony, because she ‘had a concern’ that this was to do with the use of pronouns etc but that Sturgeon knowing what was coming cut her off from making that declaration and, duly warned, Boyd had changed her ‘concern’ from one to do with activity within the court to a personal concern re pain management. As we all know, as many of us are managing pain ourselves and are well used to managing, say, period pain in professional environments, we don’t halt proceedings unless so ill we have to stop completely. If you are able to return within 5 minutes it is unlikely that you were in such pain you couldn’t have held out for a break or used a pause to request an earlier break. (I can’t go so far as to thinking Sturgeon would actually lie about what they discussed so this seems the most plausible)

Then on Thursday clear evidence of a connection to a group mentioned in SM’s talk at LWS is provided to NC’s team and so they do all that they can to establish that and any other connections, looking for anything substantive about her TRA adjacency. They felt unsure that what they had was sufficiently strong but looking at the preponderance of evidence it was their only real chance at challenging that framework and if they didn’t do it then they couldn’t credibly do it later for an appeal, say, as they would be challenged on why they had let time pass before bringing it forward. Given that the case was going swimmingly for NC they had to weigh up making this application against the likelihood that the panel were not going to be fair in the long run and given Sturgeon’s clear bias against them (not how we do things here) the had to take the risk.

Then on Friday morning they had to work with what they had so furiously wrote up the applications and had no time to pay court due respect. Judge furious because she is already agin Johnny Foreigner and her anger at that is already bubbling underneath so this just lights the fire and she expresses herself in an intemperate way that later embarrassed her (she said she could lift MC being under oath which she couldn’t for example and also had to recuse a panel member so without knowing what was going on she could have admonished without the emotional reactiveness. To me that is clear evidence of her bias against NC Team). A journo slipped them a note which added to their position but we are unclear what that note said.

At this point it has not occurred to anyone on NC’s team to interrogate the Prof title because they have been focussed on the TRA adjacency, quite rightly.

After the clear management of the reasons why Boyd is recusing herself which avoided tackling the question of her associations in a very direct way, and I think it is safe to infer here that Sturgeon is worried about putting anything on record that might prove to be untrue once further digging has occurred, speculation about Boyd is triggered in the public and citizen researcher begins to do the digging.

Unexpectedly, in that digging, folk are not coming up with anything particularly damning re TRA views but can’t source what should be easily accessible information re her professional status. It matters to look into her professional status because if organisations and networks are clearly TRA that would be problematic if also undeclared. In that digging people begin to notice that no one can find any evidence of degrees or academic credentials that justify the title Professor. There are particular routes available to use that title. It affords huge status professionally speaking and will lend enormous weight to a sense of her ability for critical thinking and to informing a non-partisan view on the positions of claimants and respondents (we know this is not always true but it is a general view of the status the title affords and, coupled with the expectations of how lay panel members are expected to operate is important, matters).

If she is misusing that title there are huge ramifications because lay panel members have to be seem to be honest and above board in all their dealings. If they are not it undermines the whole system of justice. If she has misused that title then it also will have huge ramifications beyond this case, as the powers that be will need to reassess all their pay panel members and the whole process of their appointments. It will potentially also undermine any cases she has previously sat on. It will also be HUGELY embarrassing for Sturgeon (as some wit amongst you mentioned earlier how do you do things here will come back to bite her big time).

So here we are. We hope that some journo with contacts will do the due diligence. We hope that NC Team has become aware. Twitter is now quietly aware of the issue so it is going to grow legs over the weekend more widely, I think.

Beautiful summary - thank you

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 15/11/2025 12:08

Just to add the text of Sara's X post

I genuinely don’t know what I can and can’t say right now, but my legal team? Absolute Final Boss GOATs.

Posted late last night yesterday - so after the end of the session yesterday with plenty of time for Sara to have discussed the new information with her team.

Suggests that there is more to come?

SexRealistic · 15/11/2025 12:19

anyolddinosaur · 15/11/2025 11:53

Interesting though the discussions are about academic credentials for me they really only come in to this as relevant to her involvement with Pride. She has shown previous support for Belfast Pride, probably because her daughter and partner support it. So can she set that aside and judge this case fairly on its merits. The academic stuff makes me less likely to believe that.

It is fundamental dishonesty writ large - big laminated letters in a court where people are swearing to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

If she lied on this she will easily lie on trans and anything.

She has no integrity, has misled the Judge and the Panel is fundamentally tainted.

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