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Sara Morrison vs Belfast Film Festival - Thread 2

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TwoLoonsAndASprout · 14/11/2025 13:42

Continuation of previous thread - don’t have all the details to hand to add here, so if someone can pop them on, pls do! Want to get this up quickly!

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SexRealistic · 15/11/2025 10:26

BettyBooper · 15/11/2025 09:34

Bernie from BBC has been suggested

Bernice

SexRealistic · 15/11/2025 10:30

BettyBooper · 15/11/2025 09:58

Ooh I was more sure on the first name! I may be completely wrong then!

It was Micheal - Laurence McKeown is an IRA convicted criminal and director of BFF

AnnoyingAlarm · 15/11/2025 10:31

SionnachRuadh · 15/11/2025 10:20

Yeah, I think the material issue is the potential bias.

If she's been a tribunal member since 1990, and started incorrectly styling herself years later, I don't see a particular relevance to this case - you can make out an argument that it's a general integrity thing, but we wouldn't even be questioning this if the bias issue hadn't been raised.

(Though I'm sure FWR will be taking a keen interest in lay panel members going forward!)

As far as the professor thing goes, there will be a handful of civil servants who maintain records of PMs, and they're not going to have the resources to do spot checks on the credentials of a PM who's been styling herself professor for maybe 20 years, and styled as such on the department's records.

I would guess that at some point the record was updated to include the Prof title, and this coincided with a visiting appointment at UU, and there was a brief cross-check at the time - the same way you'd check if someone adds OBE to their name - and it's just gone into the records and stayed there ever since.

Like I say, there's a lot of OBE and Dr and Prof dropping going on on the lists of people Deborah Boyd has been on boards with on CH entries.

Briefly googling those people then brings up their CH entry and so it goes on.

BettyBooper · 15/11/2025 10:33

SexRealistic · 15/11/2025 10:26

Bernice

Ah ok. I was going from your post last night! 😆

SexRealistic · 15/11/2025 10:34

But she’s used it across multiple sources fraudulently over a long time.

If Naomi brought in an expert witness and called them Profressor but they were only a visiting profressor years ago their evidence would rightly be disregarded as they are liars lairs pants on fire. 🔥

Same for Debbie Pro Trans Boyd

BettyBooper · 15/11/2025 10:35

SexRealistic · 15/11/2025 10:30

It was Micheal - Laurence McKeown is an IRA convicted criminal and director of BFF

This whole thing is like a Netflix documentary 😵‍💫

NoBinturongsHereMate · 15/11/2025 10:36

Largesso · 15/11/2025 04:17

Also, visiting professor doesn’t necessarily mean actual professorship does it? And then why ‘and tutor’ if actual Professor because if she was a visiting professor wouldn’t she also be a visiting professor there too?

The 'and tutor' bit is fine. They are different jobs at different institutions and visiting professorship isn’t a transferable job title. Someone could quite reasonably be a visiting professor at one and a tutor, or bursar, or assistant duck keeper, at the other.

borntobequiet · 15/11/2025 10:39

BettyBooper · 15/11/2025 10:35

This whole thing is like a Netflix documentary 😵‍💫

It so should be!

NoBinturongsHereMate · 15/11/2025 10:39

Namechangeagainomgthisisfacinating · 15/11/2025 08:20

Googling DB now gives this thread as result three 😁

Hmm. I wonder who else might be spending the weekend googling DB?

Hi Nick. Loving your coverage. Sorry for messing up your search results. 😀

SexRealistic · 15/11/2025 10:39

BettyBooper · 15/11/2025 10:33

Ah ok. I was going from your post last night! 😆

I should sleep more. I need to keep correcting myself and my spelling is going to pot.

It is Bernie and I am eternally sorry!!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0gj42l4zeo

Sara Morrison has long dark hair parted in the middle and is wearing large hoop earrings

Judge rejects claims of alleged bias at employment tribunal

Sara Morrison, who worked for Belfast Film Festival, believes people cannot change their biological sex.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0gj42l4zeo

weegielass · 15/11/2025 10:42

DB is easy to find on FB - she's the one with the side profile picture and the eyeshadow. If you look at who has liked that photo - michelle devlin is one. I assume its the same michelle devlin. How can the ET not check in advance for that kind of bias??? and Michael McKeown appears to be union rep / director for the NIPSA union which is supportive of LGBT rights although there is nothing about what he personally believes that I can find online. This is all public information btw that anyone can search for.

AnnoyingAlarm · 15/11/2025 10:45

weegielass · 15/11/2025 10:42

DB is easy to find on FB - she's the one with the side profile picture and the eyeshadow. If you look at who has liked that photo - michelle devlin is one. I assume its the same michelle devlin. How can the ET not check in advance for that kind of bias??? and Michael McKeown appears to be union rep / director for the NIPSA union which is supportive of LGBT rights although there is nothing about what he personally believes that I can find online. This is all public information btw that anyone can search for.

That is ridiculous. And screenshot I hope.

SionnachRuadh · 15/11/2025 10:46

There is actually a long standing issue - not just in NI but GB as well - of the same people being recycled around public boards, because if you've served on one, that's evidence you can serve on another. There are often calls to get fresh blood on the boards, with varying degrees of success.

Ironically the NI system should be better at getting in fresh blood, because the recruitment process uses blind sifting instead of being CV based like the GB system.

But then you run up against NI being small and insular. I've been scratching my head wondering if I know Sturgeon J, because her face looks incredibly familiar to me, and I can only assume I've encountered her eons ago but can't remember where from. This happens to me all the time when NI stories come up.

BettyBooper · 15/11/2025 10:47

weegielass · 15/11/2025 10:42

DB is easy to find on FB - she's the one with the side profile picture and the eyeshadow. If you look at who has liked that photo - michelle devlin is one. I assume its the same michelle devlin. How can the ET not check in advance for that kind of bias??? and Michael McKeown appears to be union rep / director for the NIPSA union which is supportive of LGBT rights although there is nothing about what he personally believes that I can find online. This is all public information btw that anyone can search for.

Bloody hell! 😳

BettyBooper · 15/11/2025 10:49

SexRealistic · 15/11/2025 10:39

I should sleep more. I need to keep correcting myself and my spelling is going to pot.

It is Bernie and I am eternally sorry!!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0gj42l4zeo

No worries! I hope the sleep fairy brings the zzzzzz. It's hard work with a baba 💪

SexRealistic · 15/11/2025 10:51

weegielass · 15/11/2025 10:42

DB is easy to find on FB - she's the one with the side profile picture and the eyeshadow. If you look at who has liked that photo - michelle devlin is one. I assume its the same michelle devlin. How can the ET not check in advance for that kind of bias??? and Michael McKeown appears to be union rep / director for the NIPSA union which is supportive of LGBT rights although there is nothing about what he personally believes that I can find online. This is all public information btw that anyone can search for.

I can see her picture but everything else is locked down

fanOfBen · 15/11/2025 10:52

BettyBooper · 15/11/2025 10:35

This whole thing is like a Netflix documentary 😵‍💫

It's a common surname in NI, I think, but... has someone attempted to check whether they're related?

KittyWilkinson · 15/11/2025 10:52

‘The Blue Room’ is the debut novel from author Michael McKeown, who has won a number of literary awards for short fiction and had a dozen short stories published. He is a leading trade unionist with NIPSA (Northern Ireland Public Service Alliance), the largest union in Northern Ireland. He has previously worked as a personnel officer, teacher, civil servant, factory worker, labourer, barman, fairground operator and security guard at various times and in various countries. He holds several degrees from Queen’s University, Belfast including an MA in English (Creative Writing).
Amazon Review.

Another person writing a book about The Troubles.
Just like Laurence McKeown of BFF ex IRA who now considers himself to be respectable author and Doctor.(I think he got his doctorate from Queens?)

Not related, and have never met each other, I presume? Hmm

NoBinturongsHereMate · 15/11/2025 10:53

Largesso · 15/11/2025 09:07

I don’t think that’s right.

At 10pm on Thursday NC team was made aware of PBs affiliation to women’s group mentioned by SM in her speech.

They were late because that triggered writing the application for recusal.

During the process of presenting application they were handed a note from a journo — and so don’t think we know what that note said altho there has been speculation,

The [female] journalist's note was given to NC's team after lunch on Friday, and was read out in court. It didn't contain any background on DB, it was just a TT/NW style 'semi-transcript' taken of the relevant section of proceedings.

The [male] journalist's conversation with NC's team speculating about what was being discussed during the break, and mention that he'd ask to make representations about it if the judge came back with directions about language used, happened on Wednesday. While the break was going on, as far as I could deduce.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 15/11/2025 10:55

@AnnoyingAlarm and @SionnachRuadh - thanks. Was just playing devil's advocate, wondering if we were putting too much weight on this issue.

AnnoyingAlarm · 15/11/2025 10:59

KittyWilkinson · 15/11/2025 10:52

‘The Blue Room’ is the debut novel from author Michael McKeown, who has won a number of literary awards for short fiction and had a dozen short stories published. He is a leading trade unionist with NIPSA (Northern Ireland Public Service Alliance), the largest union in Northern Ireland. He has previously worked as a personnel officer, teacher, civil servant, factory worker, labourer, barman, fairground operator and security guard at various times and in various countries. He holds several degrees from Queen’s University, Belfast including an MA in English (Creative Writing).
Amazon Review.

Another person writing a book about The Troubles.
Just like Laurence McKeown of BFF ex IRA who now considers himself to be respectable author and Doctor.(I think he got his doctorate from Queens?)

Not related, and have never met each other, I presume? Hmm

https://amzn.eu/d/aXDf5fI

Quite sweet that the first review is by a ?relative....

Not sure about the review stating there is gratuitous sexualisation and that the main female characters are described as femme fatales...

AnnoyingAlarm · 15/11/2025 11:02

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 15/11/2025 10:55

@AnnoyingAlarm and @SionnachRuadh - thanks. Was just playing devil's advocate, wondering if we were putting too much weight on this issue.

I'm definitely getting too into it! But having fun!

BettyBooper · 15/11/2025 11:02

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 15/11/2025 10:55

@AnnoyingAlarm and @SionnachRuadh - thanks. Was just playing devil's advocate, wondering if we were putting too much weight on this issue.

It's always good to do that. It's one of the (many) reasons I love this board so much.

IWillDoTheFandango · 15/11/2025 11:02

I'm finding it interesting that journalists can pass notes to the lawyers at all. I'd have thought they were there just to report. It's fascinating.

HollerWithTheRinsinSound · 15/11/2025 11:04

If you had to complete a Top Trumps of Tribunal Moments, all this <waves hands> intrigue makes all the reversing into bins and sixth best options look positively pedestrian.

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