"Darlington Nurses" vs County Durham and Darlington NHS Trust Tribunal Thread 8

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Thread 1, 7-Oct to 23-Oct; pre-hearing discussion, KD (day 1 of evidence) and BH (day 2).
Thread 2, 23-Oct to 28-Oct; BH (day 2), CH, JP, MG (day 3&4), TH, SS, ST, LL (day 4), JS, AT (day 5)
Thread 3, 28-Oct to 29-Oct; AT (day 5&6), TA (day 6&7)
Thread 4, 29-Oct to 31-Oct; TA, AM (day 7) JB (day 8)
Thread 5, 31-Oct to 04-Nov; JB (day 8), SW, CG, JR (day 9)
Thread 6, 04-Nov to 05-Nov; RH (day 10), SW (day 11)
Thread 7, 05-Nov to 11-Nov; SW (day 11), closing submissions

Five nurses working at Darlington Memorial Hospital have filed a legal case suing their employer, an NHS trust, for sexual harassment and sex discrimination. The nurses object to sharing the women’s changing facilities with a male colleague, Rose, who identifies as female. The hearing started on October 20th, with evidence now complete. Submissions are being made on November 11th. To view the hearing online requests for access had to be made by October 17th. The hearing is being live tweeted by Tribunal Tweets who have background to this case on their substack. An alternative to X is to use Nitter: nitter.net/tribunaltweets or nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

The Judge made clear at the start of the public hearing on Day 1 that only TT or press have permission to tweet. If online observers see/hear something in the court that isn’t reported by TT, we don’t mention it until the next time there’s a break. This is a very cautious approach to avoid any accusations of “live reporting” on MN. Commentary on the content of TT tweets is fine as soon as they’re posted on X.

Key people:
C/Ns - Claimants, the Darlington nurses
R/T/Trust - Respondent, County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust
J/EJ – Judge/Employment Judge Seamus Sweeney
NF - Niazi Fetto KC, barrister for claimants
SC - Simon Cheetham, KC, barrister for respondents
RH - Rose Henderson, trans identifying nurse
CG – Clare Gregory, NHS ward manager
SW - Sue Williams, NHS Trust HR
KD – Karen Danson, first claimant to give evidence.
BH – Bethany Hutchison, claimant
AH – Alistair Hutchison, husband of Bethany
CH – Carly Hoy, claimant
JP – Jane Peveller, claimant
MG – Mary Anne (aka Annice) Grundy, claimant
TH – Tracy Hooper, claimant
SS – Siobhan Sinclair, witness for the claimants, retired from Trust
ST – Sharron Trevarrow, witness for the claimants, retired from Trust, former housekeeper and wellbeing officer
LL – Lisa Lockey, claimant
JP – Professor Jo Phoenix, expert witness
JS – Jane Shields, witness for the claimants
AT - Andrew Thacker, NHS trust Head of HR
TA – Tracy Atkinson, NHS trust HR.
AM – Andrew Moore, NHS Head of Workforce Experience
JB – Jillian Bailey, NHS Workforce Experience Manager
AT – Anna Telfer, NHS Deputy Director of Nursing
SW – Sandra Watson, Matron for General and Elective Surgery
JR – Jodie Robinson, manager of Rose

Their lessons learned bit and frantic not looking biased didn't survive the weekend, did it?

That's bloody awful. What absolute wankers they are.

That is an appalling misrepresentation of what was said!

Total tools changing what was actually said

don’t the bbc have form for this 🤮

It's not hard to complain to the BBC about misleading or biased reporting, just saying... (ETA don't do so in expectation of a satisfactory response - I always tick that I don't need a response, better for my blood pressure - but at least you can show them people notice.)

She should do them for libel. Even Ian Hislop eventually realised that saying 'allegedly' on HIGNFY didn't work all the time.

This is an excellent point. Thank you.

Everyone, I will be driving for the next couple of hours so I have started the next thread already as this one is bound to fill up in that time. As usual, please fill up this one first, but if someone could add the link to the judgement itself once published near the top of the new thread, that would be much appreciated.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5476620-darlington-nurses-vs-county-durham-and-darlington-nhs-trust-tribunal-thread-9

These events always seem to happen with the thread wrangler isn't available to do the real-time wrangling.

I'd garden for this. Would LOVE to see the BBC's misogynistic hate finally have some consequences.

Complaint made to the BBC about the misreporting of Bethany’s comment.

Just for once it would be nice if we didn’t need to do that.

Am putting a complaint into the bbc for misreporting

I'm just about to do the same. Let's hope there'll be sufficient complaints for them to correctly phrase what was actually said!

Ok am going to complain as well

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"NHS trust 'reviewing judgement' before commenting published at 12:09
12:09
(A spokesperson for County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust says: "We are taking time to review the judgement carefully and will comment further once we have had the opportunity to consider it in full.")

Translation: We are taking time to decide which of our HR/EDI managers to throw under the bus.

Edited for spelling

I have cued up Thread 10 all ready just in case the discussion gets really heated. .

Woohooo.

It’s lovely to see Health and Safety mentioned. This is always where it comes undone. Health and Safety is paramount. The legislation is there for a reason.

hahahaha

Guardian reporting:

The tribunal also upheld the nurses’ complaint of indirect sex discrimination in that women were more likely than men to experience fear, distress or humiliation if they were required to change in front of a member of the opposite sex.

Thank you Judge Sweeney for saying true things out loud!!

Ms B Hutchinson and others -v- County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust - Courts and Tribunals Judiciary

As someone who previously had to put together a public sector budget, I had to have a cost code and a justification for all my planned spends.

I am wondering if they had a special budget line and code for 'misogynist policy fuck ups' and how overspent that line was.

That is awful misinformation

I wonder what was going through the mind of whoever manipulated those words. If you have the truth, justice and the law on your side you don't need to lie or misquote.

Some of the BBC ‘updates’ have Alison Holts name on them and some don’t. I’m not sure if all those update posts are hers or if it’s a number of BBC staff contributing. Would anyone know the ins and outs of BBC reporting?