Tim Davies Resigns - Can Gender Critical Movement take some credit?

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15274537/Tim-Davie-RESIGNS-BBC-director-general.html

What has being a Tory got to do with "trans shit".

When Cass was so barely mentioned by bbc, what chance did something like WPATH files have?

That puzzled me too but the Tories were full on gender woo until relatively recently, certainly until after May's tenure.

At least more of the tories have been openly talking about the issues! Cass was even commissioned by them

Agree that the Tories seem able to talk about it, but actually doubt that many more Tories are GC, but probably have a dislike for some of the antics and behaviour of TRAs.

And dont forget it was the Tories who originally set in the motion,until all the terfs woke up and said no way, the idea that self identifying should be allowed.

Totally forgotten who was women's minister then, but they were very much be kind.

In reality I think the Tories show that for those genuinely suffering from gender dysphoira that worst thing that could have happened are the full on TRAs. Many of whom aren't in any way trans, but just good old fashioned (if young) MRAs.

What is interesting, or shows double standards, is that if Davies can say about BLM that it is personal politics and should be "left at the door" how is it that the BBC has this trans news desk. In terms of "militancy", as opposed to ensuring fair coverage of a minority, the queer news desk probably out does any BLM t-shirt.

I have never heard of this person, but from the article: “The leaked dossier includes claims that its <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/Fl9ZF/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/11/05/bbc-trans-coverage-censored-own-reporters/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">trans coverage was biased towards stories “celebrating the trans experience without adequate balance or objectivity”.

I remember the absolute radio silence from the BBC when Kellie-Jay Keen and the other women were attacked and surrounded by the violent TRA mob in New Zealand. Absolutely nothing on their website, it was so startling. That was it for me, no more clicks nor license fee from me since then.

I don't see anything in the attachment that says the BBC are acknowledging anything of the sort. It just quotes Michael Prescott talking about it at the end. The Trump stuff and the Gaza bias, they've held their hands up but I've seen nothing from the BBC owning up on their one-sidedness on gender woo? Have I missed it? Been a bit dim?

I am keen to see where this is going. What a week!

Meanwhile, Wikipedia continues to jam its fingers into its ears...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#BBC:_Alleged_deceptive_editing_of_video,_bias_and_censorship

I know everyone loves to put the boot in to the BBC but in terms of UK news coverage the majority of outlets have their own "we will censor any GC news stories". Its just the the BBC is more open about it.

Of only everyone was as enraged about say the Guardian, the Indpendent, etc silencing of GC views as they are about the BBC.

So on one level the BBC is in line with UK standards of reporting on GC issues.

Look at the near 100% negative coverage and commentating about JKR. To a level that is close to hate, and daily published or broadcast.

I wonder if anyone has done a FOI request of the BBC to find out how many trans related complaints it’s had over, say, the last five years? I know they’ve had dozens from me.
Having never done one of these, I might give it a go tomorrow.

Unfortunately those resignations were absolutely nothing to do with institutional bias in the BBC’s trans coverage, antisemitism, etc. and everything to do with pissing off Trump and being so blatant in its editing of his speech.

As others have pointed out, the whole organisation needs to be reviewed. Otherwise they’ll just recruit others in their same image and we’ll get more of the same.

I stopped paying my license fee this year. I’m happy to pay for wonderful programming like tonight’s Kingdom, but absolutely can’t support its news coverage.

The BBC is THE public broadcaster, which is supposed to be impartial.

Other news sources are expected to have an element of bias. Ideally this wouldn't be how it is, but everyone expects the Telegraph to be right-wing and the Graun to be lefty.

no only in so much as they finally added it into / noted its in the memo in the live coverage!

but it seems Sky were including it before they were - you’d assume the bcc would have all the info for a news on the bbc…!

Strange message from Emily

The Panorama piece was made by an Indie, as was the Gaza piece featuring the son of a Hamas leader.
The BBC shouldn’t trust these profit making independents to follow their editorial guidelines.

I know that is the theory but you will get just as many criticisms from the left as from the right about the BBC.

And as "the" public broadcaster it is part of the public, ie reflects what are seen to be generally accepted views.

ie it doesn't sit back and say we are the ones who can act with true impartiality, because we are untouched by the public mood.

If you remember they go told off in the early days for giving a disproporionate time to Farage during the whole Brexit era.

But that was driven by public interest.

Obviously, I think they like so many institutions have been and still are totally Stonewalled. And even now it is hard to believe how many institutions were and still have this embedded in their practice.

In fact in the early days the BBC was very much not about impartiality but about making sure the British public were constantly reminded of what a small elite group thought British (but mainly English) values should be.

This.

Nick Wallis clearly gets it.
Tim Davie not working this out says a lot.

I think much of the problem with BBC News is their obvious decision to sideline UK viewers and to downgrade the World Service in order to chase after the American market. Most of the time it feels like you are watching a US news channel. A big story will be breaking in the UK, you switch on the BBC News and they will be having a Zoom call panel discussion about some batshit comment some controversial congressman from Wisconsin has made. As with the Guardian, when you chase after the American coastal audience there is a tendency to pander to their 'progressive ' concerns.

I also think the slow death of local newspapers and radio stations is a problem. The BBC needs more of the kind of journalists who started as a cub reporter on the Tewkesbury Tribune and fewer of the opinion piece activist ones they seem to be recruiting now.

Lisa Nandy said that??? I will believe it when I see it, would you happen to have a link, please?

This DOES NOT cover what happened to Martine Croxall though. Thats NOT in line with guidelines. This is pure activist bullshit language which she was punished for not sticking to.

Thats the issue.

The fact its happened the same week as the Martine Croxall decision by the BBC says this ISN'T just about Trump as much as people will try and deny / pretend differently.

The MAJORITY of the public think the concept of 'pregnant people' rather than people women is bollocks when it comes to it. Some will tolerate it but they think its not needed.

This is what isn't being grasped. Its being out of step with the public AND blamed on guidelines EVEN WHEN ITS NOT EVEN COVERED BY GUIDELINES.

The thing with the media is for it to be revelant and to be useful it ultimately has to serve the interests of its consumers.The second it fails to do this, it becomes power that works againt the public. And thats where you get public backlashes which is what we are seeing in progress.

I got taught this by a lecturer who did modules for BBC news staff on the same stuff. He's been turning in his grave for several years. Clearly Tim Davie didn't do the course.

Could the problem be one of cutting corners when checking compliance of an indie's work before broadcast?
The BBC are supposed to spread the license fee around amongst independents but perhaps high profile news reporting is better kept in house?

I cancelled my Gaurdian subscription years ago and am now very pleased with my subscriptions to The Telegraph and The Scottish Herald.

This is all part of a curve since 2016. I've spoken about it a lot on MN.

It amazes me how few journalists remotely get it.