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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Always been GC, but now afraid I'm becoming transphobic

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HouseOfGuineaPigs · 30/09/2025 23:07

I've always been gender critical and 100% in support of safe spaces for natal women only. I'm completely comfortable with being gender critical. But I'm concerned I've crossed a line into becoming a full on bigot, which is something I don't want to be. Due to my own background of mental health and trauma issues I follow pages on this issue on Facebook. I just saw one with a graphic post saying Using Preferred Pronouns Is Suicide Prevention and it made me want to scream and throw things.

I've been suicidal, I've attempted. I've battled see harm and self destructive behaviours since childhood. I should be sympathetic about the struggles people are having . But I feel manipulated seeing posts like that one. I use preferred names when I'm addressing trans persons. I am kind to them, I don't mention their issues. I treat them the same as anyone else. I will call a bloke Sue even if his real name is Bob, it feels odd, but I will do it to be respectful . But calling a he a she is a step too far. I would either use their name or use they.

Why do I feel so strongly that I'm being manipulated ? None of the trans people I know have abused me in any way. They haven't infringed on my boundaries . I have 2 trans friends, another who is non binary and 2 acquaintances. They have all been decent .

I just feel resentful that I'm being made to feel responsible for someone not taking their life because I don't affirm their identity ?

I'm horrible aren't I ? Please sort my head out !

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FlirtsWithRhinos · 04/10/2025 17:12

Sooner or later everyone realises the choice is simple: you can be sexist or you can be so-called-transphobic. Because genderism is simply a new face of the same old sexism.

And as more women come to realise it really is that stark, the shaking finger accusing women of transphobia is losing its power over us.

SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 17:15

Oh. The post has been deleted so my quote won’t work.

@BeeSourianteAgain I’ll address you directly.

You know what. I’m not having a Pikachu moment.

I’m in my don’t give a fuck phase.

Men can stay the fuck out of women’s single sex spaces and obey the fucking law.

Or I’ll be reporting the service provider that allowed them in.

And why will I do that?

Here I go again. With apologies to the regulars who have heard this all a million times before. I should type it in my notes so I can just c&p.

I was violently raped and sexually assaulted by a man. A stalker who had staked me for months. He broke through my door, pushed me against the back wall of my living room and strangled me until I passed out. When I came to I had wet myself and he was pulling off my trousers and knickers. He then proceeded to vaginally and orally rape me, all whilst holding me in place with a hand at my throat. I tried really hard to get away but I couldn’t. I broke the ring finger of my right hand somehow and I got a friction burn on it. He also sexually assaulted me both vaginally and orally by forcing his fingers into my vagina and down my throat. He also gave me hpv and genital herpes as a Brucie bonus.

The trauma I have around that means I can’t be behind a door where there is a man on the other side that I don’t know. Even in work, where we have unisex floor to ceiling cubicles it’s difficult.

I ask for all female healthcare teams where I can and see a female GP where at all possible. Were any of those people to be trans women and insist that they were biologically female and insist on treating me that would be assault and I would sue.

I am very clear in my own mind that I say no to men in women’s single sex spaces. The law agrees. For me it’s a line that needs to be held. It’s a consent violation for any person to enter the single sex facilities that don’t align with their birth sex. And that’s a slippery slope.

so no. It’s not a Pikachu moment and it’s grossly insulting to me and dismissive of me and others like me who have trauma caused by the actions of men to suggest that it is.

Your post is grossly offensive.

All I want is everyone to obey the law. That’s it. Like every other law is obeyed. If you don’t like, campaign to change it. But no one is entitled to break the law.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/10/2025 17:23

It’s no less awful the more times I read it @SupremeArbiterFlowers don’t ever apologise

SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 17:26

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/10/2025 17:23

It’s no less awful the more times I read it @SupremeArbiterFlowers don’t ever apologise

Thank you.

How DARE someone categorise my trauma as a fucking Pikachu moment. How fucking dare they. That’s disgusting.

SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 17:37

At least I’ve got my next name change.

Imjustapikachumoment. Or is that too long

FranticFrankie · 04/10/2025 18:42

Woah!!!!! Bee's been deleted? And they say the wims are nasty?

@SupremeArbiter please- don't apologise 🌹

OuterSpaceCadet · 04/10/2025 19:06

@SupremeArbiter 🌹

Namelessnelly · 04/10/2025 19:11

SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 17:26

Thank you.

How DARE someone categorise my trauma as a fucking Pikachu moment. How fucking dare they. That’s disgusting.

It is disgustingly. I thought the poster yesterday was bad enough but this…. This is next level nasty

feministmom4ever · 04/10/2025 19:15

As I learned yesterday, courtesy of Tandora, according to the TRAs (or at least some of them) we are not merely viewed as second class citizens, we are not citizens at all. It isn’t merely good old fashioned misogyny, as I previously thought, it’s dehumanization.

Always been GC, but now afraid I'm becoming transphobic
SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 19:40

feministmom4ever · 04/10/2025 19:15

As I learned yesterday, courtesy of Tandora, according to the TRAs (or at least some of them) we are not merely viewed as second class citizens, we are not citizens at all. It isn’t merely good old fashioned misogyny, as I previously thought, it’s dehumanization.

Yeah my distress is not to be discussed because my questions relate to the allocation of services. I was refused to have my questions answered despite asking multiple times and it was claimed that Tandora had not noticed them. Despite me asking multiple times.

Apparently it’s because I don’t understand the trans experience and my questions about law and my trauma are logical fallacies.

Pikachu moment and a logical fallacy that’s me.

BeeSourianteAgain · 04/10/2025 19:44

Oh and also, your "friends" aren't your friends if you're misgendering them, there's very few trans people who hate themselves so much that they would remain in contact with someone who disrespected them so badly. Though given that 'gender critical' activist always lie, I suspect those friends don't really exist.

Namelessnelly · 04/10/2025 19:45

SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 19:40

Yeah my distress is not to be discussed because my questions relate to the allocation of services. I was refused to have my questions answered despite asking multiple times and it was claimed that Tandora had not noticed them. Despite me asking multiple times.

Apparently it’s because I don’t understand the trans experience and my questions about law and my trauma are logical fallacies.

Pikachu moment and a logical fallacy that’s me.

No. You are an amazing, strong woman and the fact you come here and share painful facts in order to help other women shows that. 💐💐💐💐💐

SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 19:47

BeeSourianteAgain · 04/10/2025 19:44

Oh and also, your "friends" aren't your friends if you're misgendering them, there's very few trans people who hate themselves so much that they would remain in contact with someone who disrespected them so badly. Though given that 'gender critical' activist always lie, I suspect those friends don't really exist.

I wouldn’t misgender anyone. I’ve said that multiple times.

But then I’m just a Pikachu moment and a logical fallacy with a ton of trauma and legal rights I want upheld so what the fuck does anyone care about me.

oh. The law. That’s who.

Soz n all.

Namelessnelly · 04/10/2025 19:50

BeeSourianteAgain · 04/10/2025 19:44

Oh and also, your "friends" aren't your friends if you're misgendering them, there's very few trans people who hate themselves so much that they would remain in contact with someone who disrespected them so badly. Though given that 'gender critical' activist always lie, I suspect those friends don't really exist.

you mean like the lovely kind sweet transwomen friends that are so sweet and would never hurt a fly and who pass perfectly? Cos they don’t exist despite many TRA claiming they do. Males will never be women and are not allowed to go into female spaces. Women say no. The law says no. Get over it.

SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 19:53

BeeSourianteAgain · 04/10/2025 19:44

Oh and also, your "friends" aren't your friends if you're misgendering them, there's very few trans people who hate themselves so much that they would remain in contact with someone who disrespected them so badly. Though given that 'gender critical' activist always lie, I suspect those friends don't really exist.

Also. How dare you accuse me of lying.

I have not lied.

SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 19:54

Those lovely kind sweet trans women who intend to break the law?

Namelessnelly · 04/10/2025 20:11

SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 19:54

Those lovely kind sweet trans women who intend to break the law?

Those very ones.

BeeSourianteAgain · 04/10/2025 20:55

Also, I'm currently in a voice chat with two other trans people and both say that they would not remain friend with someone so disrespectful as to not use the correct pronouns. The fact that you seem to think that using someone's legal name is you being 'nice' speaks volumes about the type of person you are.

SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 20:57

BeeSourianteAgain · 04/10/2025 20:55

Also, I'm currently in a voice chat with two other trans people and both say that they would not remain friend with someone so disrespectful as to not use the correct pronouns. The fact that you seem to think that using someone's legal name is you being 'nice' speaks volumes about the type of person you are.

I don’t care.

you don’t care about me and my trauma. I’m just a Pikachu moment to you.

Why do you think I’d care? Or anyone like me would?

You don’t care about my trauma, your deleted post proved that.

What on earth makes you think I or anyone like me would be in the least bit interested in your voice chat with other trans people?

feministmom4ever · 04/10/2025 21:01

SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 20:57

I don’t care.

you don’t care about me and my trauma. I’m just a Pikachu moment to you.

Why do you think I’d care? Or anyone like me would?

You don’t care about my trauma, your deleted post proved that.

What on earth makes you think I or anyone like me would be in the least bit interested in your voice chat with other trans people?

Well there is a very high prevalence of narcissism among trans-identifying people…

Namelessnelly · 04/10/2025 21:05

BeeSourianteAgain · 04/10/2025 20:55

Also, I'm currently in a voice chat with two other trans people and both say that they would not remain friend with someone so disrespectful as to not use the correct pronouns. The fact that you seem to think that using someone's legal name is you being 'nice' speaks volumes about the type of person you are.

I’m so glad you’ve got friends. I was worried you were using these boards as your only way of interacting with people. I hope you have a lovely time in your voice chat.

Helleofabore · 04/10/2025 21:36

Well, imagine that. People self obsessed with making sure others change their language specifically and especially to suit them, threaten coercion to ensure people comply with their demand. And feel righteous in doing so.

No more needs to be said, I don’t think you quite get what you and your mates just admitted to BeeS.

SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 21:36

Helleofabore · 04/10/2025 21:36

Well, imagine that. People self obsessed with making sure others change their language specifically and especially to suit them, threaten coercion to ensure people comply with their demand. And feel righteous in doing so.

No more needs to be said, I don’t think you quite get what you and your mates just admitted to BeeS.

Honestly the level of disregard for others is chilling.

Helleofabore · 04/10/2025 21:38

SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 21:36

Honestly the level of disregard for others is chilling.

Once you see it, you cannot unsee it.

SupremeArbiter · 04/10/2025 21:39

Helleofabore · 04/10/2025 21:38

Once you see it, you cannot unsee it.

Absolutely.

They simply aren’t interested in discussing competing rights and a workable solution. Nothing other than total capitulation will do.

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