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JK on Emma Watson

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Lowarnes · 29/09/2025 13:08

A stunningly perfect response to Watson’s recent comments. Haven’t seen a thread on this so thought I’d post below:

”I'm seeing quite a bit of comment about this, so I want to make a couple of points.

I'm not owed eternal agreement from any actor who once played a character I created. The idea is as ludicrous as me checking with the boss I had when I was twenty-one for what opinions I should hold these days.

Emma Watson and her co-stars have every right to embrace gender identity ideology. Such beliefs are legally protected, and I wouldn't want to see any of them threatened with loss of work, or violence, or death, because of them.

However, Emma and Dan in particular have both made it clear over the last few years that they think our former professional association gives them a particular right - nay, obligation - to critique me and my views in public. Years after they finished acting in Potter, they continue to assume the role of de facto spokespeople for the world I created.

When you've known people since they were ten years old it's hard to shake a certain protectiveness. Until quite recently, I hadn't managed to throw off the memory of children who needed to be gently coaxed through their dialogue in a big scary film studio. For the past few years, I've repeatedly declined invitations from journalists to comment on Emma specifically, most notably on the Witch Trials of JK Rowling. Ironically, I told the producers that I didn't want her to be hounded as the result of anything I said.

The television presenter in the attached clip highlights Emma's 'all witches' speech, and in truth, that was a turning point for me, but it had a postscript that hurt far more than the speech itself. Emma asked someone to pass on a handwritten note from her to me, which contained the single sentence 'I'm so sorry for what you're going through' (she has my phone number). This was back when the death, rape and torture threats against me were at their peak, at a time when my personal security measures had had to be tightened considerably and I was constantly worried for my family's safety. Emma had just publicly poured more petrol on the flames, yet thought a one line expression of concern from her would reassure me of her fundamental sympathy and kindness.

Like other people who've never experienced adult life uncushioned by wealth and fame, Emma has so little experience of real life she's ignorant of how ignorant she is. She'll never need a homeless shelter. She's never going to be placed on a mixed sex public hospital ward. I'd be astounded if she's been in a high street changing room since childhood. Her 'public bathroom' is single occupancy and comes with a security man standing guard outside the door. Has she had to strip off in a newly mixed-sex changing room at a council-run swimming pool? Is she ever likely to need a state-run rape crisis centre that refuses to guarantee an all-female service? To find herself sharing a prison cell with a male rapist who's identified into the women's prison?

I wasn't a multimillionaire at fourteen. I lived in poverty while writing the book that made Emma famous. I therefore understand from my own life experience what the trashing of women's rights in which Emma has so enthusiastically participated means to women and girls without her privileges.

The greatest irony here is that, had Emma not decided in her most recent interview to declare that she loves and treasures me - a change of tack I suspect she's adopted because she's noticed full-throated condemnation of me is no longer quite as fashionable as it was - I might never have been this honest.

Adults can't expect to cosy up to an activist movement that regularly calls for a friend's assassination, then assert their right to the former friend's love, as though the friend was in fact their mother. Emma is rightly free to disagree with me and indeed to discuss her feelings about me in public - but I have the same right, and I've finally decided to exercise it.”

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SleeplessInWherever · 29/09/2025 17:04

Absentosaur · 29/09/2025 16:59

I didn’t think she said bar one! Other people have made that up - because of course she did say it in an unspoken way.

On another note - watching that hideous speech makes me feel nauseous 🤮 🤢

She definitely mouthed it, which is hurtful and unnecessary.

ClairDeLaLune · 29/09/2025 17:04

With every word JKR writes or speaks, I just love her even more.

nomas · 29/09/2025 17:05

Absentosaur · 29/09/2025 16:59

I didn’t think she said bar one! Other people have made that up - because of course she did say it in an unspoken way.

On another note - watching that hideous speech makes me feel nauseous 🤮 🤢

I stand corrected, she did whisper ‘bar one’ 😳😳😳

InTheWellBeing · 29/09/2025 17:05

Well, she's not as bright or as articulate as JKR so it may take her a while to fashion a response.

To be fair JK’s been stewing on dragging Emma for quite some time 🤣🤣

nomas · 29/09/2025 17:05

InTheWellBeing · 29/09/2025 17:05

Well, she's not as bright or as articulate as JKR so it may take her a while to fashion a response.

To be fair JK’s been stewing on dragging Emma for quite some time 🤣🤣

Revenge is a dish best served cold.

InTheWellBeing · 29/09/2025 17:07

nomas · 29/09/2025 17:05

Revenge is a dish best served cold.

Let’s hope Emma remembers that

Absentosaur · 29/09/2025 17:07

nomas · 29/09/2025 17:05

I stand corrected, she did whisper ‘bar one’ 😳😳😳

Did she whisper it / mouth it??? I missed that bit. Urgh how pathetic. She really is awful!

nomas · 29/09/2025 17:07

Absentosaur · 29/09/2025 17:07

Did she whisper it / mouth it??? I missed that bit. Urgh how pathetic. She really is awful!

Yes, she does, I missed it too!

lcakethereforeIam · 29/09/2025 17:09

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nomas · 29/09/2025 17:09

InTheWellBeing · 29/09/2025 17:07

Let’s hope Emma remembers that

Does Emma need revenge?

jumpintheline · 29/09/2025 17:12

PepeParapluie · 29/09/2025 13:16

I never fail to be impressed with how JKR expresses herself.

Me too. She is just 👌

InTheWellBeing · 29/09/2025 17:13

nomas · 29/09/2025 17:09

Does Emma need revenge?

Somebody seems to think so. Read the posts I was responding to. They seem to think she needs to respond and revenge is a dish best served cold. 🤣🤣🤣

ClawedButler · 29/09/2025 17:13

Revenge is a dish best served cold.
Revenge is sweet.
Revenge is...ice cream?

HumphreyCobblers · 29/09/2025 17:13

ClairDeLaLune · 29/09/2025 17:04

With every word JKR writes or speaks, I just love her even more.

Me too.

It is a wonderful thing, to have someone that I admire so wholly.

Pleasantsort · 29/09/2025 17:16

God, I love that woman. She is sheer class! Thank you JK for everything. And what a great response. It must have been hurtful before when those talentless brats turned on her.

141mum · 29/09/2025 17:17

Fantastic

Hollybollyhughes · 29/09/2025 17:18

I found it incredibly unfair that just having an opinion, that women are women etc., JK was vilified and given the most horrendous treatment. Pro women and not anti trans BTW.

Deadringer · 29/09/2025 17:18

I love jkr, and i think that everything she says, she says very well, but imho it would have been more dignified if she had said nothing, and more cutting to EW too, to simply ignore her.

EsmaCannonball · 29/09/2025 17:21

Oxbridge and the Ivy League have a weakness for accepting students with glamorous associations. In recent years the value of one of their degrees has depreciated and, when it comes to the arts and humanities, being able to pay is the most important factor in postgraduate study.

nomas · 29/09/2025 17:22

InTheWellBeing · 29/09/2025 17:13

Somebody seems to think so. Read the posts I was responding to. They seem to think she needs to respond and revenge is a dish best served cold. 🤣🤣🤣

lol, no, that was me and I meant that JKR kept her powder dry and spoke up about EW at the perfect time.

ThatCyanCat · 29/09/2025 17:23

Deadringer · 29/09/2025 17:18

I love jkr, and i think that everything she says, she says very well, but imho it would have been more dignified if she had said nothing, and more cutting to EW too, to simply ignore her.

It's always women who have been treated like dirt who are told they get their dignity from shutting up and never speaking.

Funnily enough, she did even say she'd probably never have "been this honest" had Watson not tried that hypocritical, manipulative "can't we love each other" stuff.

I've read JKR's post about 12 times now and I really can't see how it loses her dignity in any way at all. If dignity is endless silence in the face of what she's been through and continues to go through, then dignity can go fuck itself.

Yawhat · 29/09/2025 17:24

RominaDina · 29/09/2025 16:59

EW reminds me of those people in big detached houses in rich neighbourhoods with "Refugees Welcome" signs up.
Knowing full well that refugees wouldn't get within 5 miles of their house.

Absolutely. It's the same set of people. Those with bubbled existences, shielded by loads of money, usually Daddy's, while we normal folk have to live with the consequences of their stupid, fashionable, luxury beliefs.

They came along too late to gay rights, so they fervently absolve their sins by championing all things troonery.

They grew up in leafy all-white enclave, free to be casually racist, and now frantically scrub their souls clean by lobbying to fling open the borders.

They're the same people. They have no integrity and no taste.

TeiTetua · 29/09/2025 17:26

Deadringer · 29/09/2025 17:18

I love jkr, and i think that everything she says, she says very well, but imho it would have been more dignified if she had said nothing, and more cutting to EW too, to simply ignore her.

I've been thinking that too--can it be that JKR might have made a mistake?

But then, she lives in a fair amount of isolation herself, and the behaviour of most of her Potter movie associates has been appalling. She could have said nothing, or made a frosty response like "Emma Watson is saying what she thinks it's right to say. I won't comment any further." But In her position, most of us would have boiled over long ago.

Rachie1973 · 29/09/2025 17:29

PepeParapluie · 29/09/2025 13:16

I never fail to be impressed with how JKR expresses herself.

It was fantastic!

ZippyPearlPeer · 29/09/2025 17:30

GailBlancheViola · 29/09/2025 16:58

Lots of posters on here and even more so on X seem to think EW, DR, RG etc are duty bound to at least be polite to JKR/not disagree with her in public, if not fully support her, just because she wrote the books that made them famous. It's one of the laziest and most illogical arguments on the GC "side" (which tends to pride itself on working on the basis of logic and reason rather than hurty feelings) so I hope her specifically disagreeing with it will now mean it's retired.

That's not the argument I see GC people making, what I see is them saying that those actors have the right to disagree but not to denigrate JKR nor fan the flames of the pile on on her. However, EW, DR, RG were too cowardly to just state they disagreed and that JKR was as entitled to her view and to express it as they do theirs. Never once did they state the mob that was hounding (and still hounds JKR) should stop instead they joined in and relished doing so.

And yes, JKR is at the very least owed politeness and civilty as are we all in a civil and reasonable society.

Absolutely. I also think there is a difference between (graciously) not agreeing with her, versus the utter audacity that, particularly DR, showed when speaking for Harry Potter.

He released a statement when JKR first addressed the issue, including “To all the people who now feel that their experience of the books has been tarnished or diminished, I am deeply sorry for the pain these comments have caused you.” and then went on to suggest that Potter fans were welcome to still interpret the books (JKRs books!!) however they wished. The utter, dripping, misogyny, of a man, whose entire career is built on the creativity, wonder and joy that a woman has created, having the gall to presume to speak for her and her works.

“They continue to assume the role of de facto spokespeople for the world I created”

This to me is also a large part of the criticism from GC women. It is not so much that they owe her loyalty, more that they have absolutely no right to presume that the role they played somehow gives them the right to diminish the accomplishments or assume they have superior knowledge of the author than her own work.

To take the themes and messaging of JKR’s work and twist it against her was (to me) an act of unforgivable disloyalty.

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