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JK on Emma Watson

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Lowarnes · 29/09/2025 13:08

A stunningly perfect response to Watson’s recent comments. Haven’t seen a thread on this so thought I’d post below:

”I'm seeing quite a bit of comment about this, so I want to make a couple of points.

I'm not owed eternal agreement from any actor who once played a character I created. The idea is as ludicrous as me checking with the boss I had when I was twenty-one for what opinions I should hold these days.

Emma Watson and her co-stars have every right to embrace gender identity ideology. Such beliefs are legally protected, and I wouldn't want to see any of them threatened with loss of work, or violence, or death, because of them.

However, Emma and Dan in particular have both made it clear over the last few years that they think our former professional association gives them a particular right - nay, obligation - to critique me and my views in public. Years after they finished acting in Potter, they continue to assume the role of de facto spokespeople for the world I created.

When you've known people since they were ten years old it's hard to shake a certain protectiveness. Until quite recently, I hadn't managed to throw off the memory of children who needed to be gently coaxed through their dialogue in a big scary film studio. For the past few years, I've repeatedly declined invitations from journalists to comment on Emma specifically, most notably on the Witch Trials of JK Rowling. Ironically, I told the producers that I didn't want her to be hounded as the result of anything I said.

The television presenter in the attached clip highlights Emma's 'all witches' speech, and in truth, that was a turning point for me, but it had a postscript that hurt far more than the speech itself. Emma asked someone to pass on a handwritten note from her to me, which contained the single sentence 'I'm so sorry for what you're going through' (she has my phone number). This was back when the death, rape and torture threats against me were at their peak, at a time when my personal security measures had had to be tightened considerably and I was constantly worried for my family's safety. Emma had just publicly poured more petrol on the flames, yet thought a one line expression of concern from her would reassure me of her fundamental sympathy and kindness.

Like other people who've never experienced adult life uncushioned by wealth and fame, Emma has so little experience of real life she's ignorant of how ignorant she is. She'll never need a homeless shelter. She's never going to be placed on a mixed sex public hospital ward. I'd be astounded if she's been in a high street changing room since childhood. Her 'public bathroom' is single occupancy and comes with a security man standing guard outside the door. Has she had to strip off in a newly mixed-sex changing room at a council-run swimming pool? Is she ever likely to need a state-run rape crisis centre that refuses to guarantee an all-female service? To find herself sharing a prison cell with a male rapist who's identified into the women's prison?

I wasn't a multimillionaire at fourteen. I lived in poverty while writing the book that made Emma famous. I therefore understand from my own life experience what the trashing of women's rights in which Emma has so enthusiastically participated means to women and girls without her privileges.

The greatest irony here is that, had Emma not decided in her most recent interview to declare that she loves and treasures me - a change of tack I suspect she's adopted because she's noticed full-throated condemnation of me is no longer quite as fashionable as it was - I might never have been this honest.

Adults can't expect to cosy up to an activist movement that regularly calls for a friend's assassination, then assert their right to the former friend's love, as though the friend was in fact their mother. Emma is rightly free to disagree with me and indeed to discuss her feelings about me in public - but I have the same right, and I've finally decided to exercise it.”

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HappyNewTaxYear · 29/09/2025 14:23

Beautifully expressed. As usual.

EW reminds me of a spoilt secondary school pupil whose behaviour causes mayhem in class but who then expects to escape consequences by saying a trite ‘Sorry Miss’.

Hinterland101 · 29/09/2025 14:27

She absolutely nailed her! I gave a quiet cheer when I read her this earlier - you just don’t mess with JKR.

SidewaysOtter · 29/09/2025 14:29

Crikey, I’m not even in the UK at the moment and I can feel the burn from here.

All power to your elbow, JKR.

OverlyFragrant · 29/09/2025 14:32

I cannot adequately express how much I love that woman

PerkingFaintly · 29/09/2025 14:32

Lottapianos · 29/09/2025 13:41

She's an absolutely class act. Terrific piece of writing

+1

PerkingFaintly · 29/09/2025 14:35

Actually I could just go +1 to all the comments here.

I can't come up with anything to add at all! Just perfect.

1offnamechange · 29/09/2025 14:35

It's a good post and I'm glad she specified this bit:

"Im not owed eternal agreement from any actor who once played a character I created. The idea is as ludicrous as me checking with the boss I had when I was twenty-one for what opinions I should hold these days."

Lots of posters on here and even more so on X seem to think EW, DR, RG etc are duty bound to at least be polite to JKR/not disagree with her in public, if not fully support her, just because she wrote the books that made them famous. It's one of the laziest and most illogical arguments on the GC "side" (which tends to pride itself on working on the basis of logic and reason rather than hurty feelings) so I hope her specifically disagreeing with it will now mean it's retired.

20 years post HP, they are entitled to have any opinions they want and don't "owe" loyalty to JKR. However it also means they have to have the courage of their convictions like adults, and equally, aren't owed forgiveness either.

RedNine · 29/09/2025 14:37

Ooosha, you can feel that burn from space.

Fair play, that JKR can't half write, eh.

😍

OfDragonsDeep · 29/09/2025 14:38

I just read the BBC article on this, it’s awful

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 29/09/2025 14:40

Excellent post @MarieDeGournay . Whilst I have read HP and I did enjoy the first four or five books I thought they should have stopped there as I found the later ones too drawn out and a bit whispers it boring (with apologies to any Potterheads I may have offended).

So like you say it's the woman herself I admire and celebrate rather than her many notable accomplishments.

hholiday · 29/09/2025 14:44

It sums up the privilege gap perfectly. JK, as a single mum having lived in poverty, gets instantly why this movement harms women and girls.

Emma, as a young millionaire, does not - and JK lists the ways in which Emm is ignorant of her own ignorance. No knowledge of prisons, rape crisis centres, mixed sex hospital wards, high street changing rooms, local authority leisure centres etc.

it’s interesting because the more trans rights come to be associated with privilege, the more people will drop it like a hot stone. Very strategic of JK, as well as quite brilliantly executed.

MrsTerryPratchett · 29/09/2025 14:46

The note, she’s right, was a terrible thing. Implying that EW knew the witch hunt was wrong, knew JK was being hounded, and just wanted to be ‘right’ so badly she didn’t care enough to be measured and balanced. Which is pretty revolting.

And while I agree with JK and @1offnamechangethat they don’t owe her fealty, they do owe her the start of their multi-million pound careers. And a couple of them have gone out of their way to not just support the ‘side’ they support, but to denigrate her personally.

This movement has always reminded me of the cultural revolution in China with its hatred of the Olds, and children attacking their elders, and extreme virtue signalling. This is a perfect example.

Absentosaur · 29/09/2025 14:48

Lowarnes · 29/09/2025 13:14

Ah sorry I did see that thread but obviously didn’t scroll down enough to see it had been posted 😵‍💫

Deserves its own dedicated thread anyway 😁

ItsCoolForCats · 29/09/2025 14:49

OfDragonsDeep · 29/09/2025 14:38

I just read the BBC article on this, it’s awful

It's better than it would have been a couple of years ago, in that at least they don't describe JKR an anti-trans activist, and it talks about her concerns being about women's single sex spaces.

But this bit is a particularly egregious misrepresentation of JKR's views

"Rowling went on to suggest that Watson was "never likely to need" to use the types of single-sex spaces she has campaigned against trans people having access to, such as changing rooms and public toilets".

I mean, FFS, JKR does not campaign for trans people to not have access to changing rooms and toilets, just for men to stay out of ones that are designated for women. And the fact that they chose to focus on toilets (again 🙄) rather than prisons or rape crisis shelters.

CatAsstrophe · 29/09/2025 14:50

Perfectly balanced and dignified response. JKR does it again ❤

I sincerely hope EW feels extreme discomfort (at the very least) when she reads it.

MoominMai · 29/09/2025 14:50

I wish JK Rowling were PM!

SooticaTheWitchesCat · 29/09/2025 15:01

Perfect, well written response

MarieDeGournay · 29/09/2025 15:04

1offnamechange · 29/09/2025 14:35

It's a good post and I'm glad she specified this bit:

"Im not owed eternal agreement from any actor who once played a character I created. The idea is as ludicrous as me checking with the boss I had when I was twenty-one for what opinions I should hold these days."

Lots of posters on here and even more so on X seem to think EW, DR, RG etc are duty bound to at least be polite to JKR/not disagree with her in public, if not fully support her, just because she wrote the books that made them famous. It's one of the laziest and most illogical arguments on the GC "side" (which tends to pride itself on working on the basis of logic and reason rather than hurty feelings) so I hope her specifically disagreeing with it will now mean it's retired.

20 years post HP, they are entitled to have any opinions they want and don't "owe" loyalty to JKR. However it also means they have to have the courage of their convictions like adults, and equally, aren't owed forgiveness either.

Lots of posters on here and even more so on X seem to think EW, DR, RG etc are duty bound to at least be polite to JKR/not disagree with her in public, if not fully support her, just because she wrote the books that made them famous. It's one of the laziest and most illogical arguments on the GC "side" (which tends to pride itself on working on the basis of logic and reason rather than hurty feelings)

I think you are mixing up arguments made by the GC 'side' which tend to be on the basis of logic and reason, and expression of personal opinions, which also have a place in discussion spaces like this.

Everything we say here doesn't have to be governed by logic and reason, and I can understand posters occasionally suspending logic and reason to say
'Well the ungrateful nasty little whippersnappers! They owe their careers to JKR's books!'

That's not a logical argument, it's an opinion. EW has extended its validity into the future, so it's not ready for retirement yet!

WatchingTheDetective · 29/09/2025 15:06

HappyNewTaxYear · 29/09/2025 14:23

Beautifully expressed. As usual.

EW reminds me of a spoilt secondary school pupil whose behaviour causes mayhem in class but who then expects to escape consequences by saying a trite ‘Sorry Miss’.

Or the school bully who approaches their victim as an adult and tries to talk as though they both did something wrong.

Not that I'd call JKR a victim in any way, but Emma Watson clearly wanted her to be one.

OdeToTheNorthWestWind · 29/09/2025 15:09

Emma Watson proved (not for the first time) in the podcast last week that, despite holding a degree in English Literature, she is unable to deliver a coherent sentence without speaking some else's words!

JKR's comments could not be in starker contrast; clear, logical and going straight to the heart of the matter.

tellyonita · 29/09/2025 15:11

Just when I think I can’t love and respect JK Rowling any more she goes and nails it again. She’s my hero.

RoyalCorgi · 29/09/2025 15:12

I'm open-mouthed at the gall of Watson in making that really hurtful comment about witches and following it up by writing a sympathetic note to JKR. Did she imagine the note would make things better? At least have the courage of your convictions.

Absentosaur · 29/09/2025 15:17

I guess EW has now narrowed down her work options even further . Actions have consequences and all that. No need for beta blockers on the red carpet anymore, at least Emma. Yes ok it’s because there is no red carpet anymore, but still.

NewGoldFox · 29/09/2025 15:18

I felt EW bringing this back up again was an attempt to redirect the news from her driving ban.

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