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JK on Emma Watson

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Lowarnes · 29/09/2025 13:08

A stunningly perfect response to Watson’s recent comments. Haven’t seen a thread on this so thought I’d post below:

”I'm seeing quite a bit of comment about this, so I want to make a couple of points.

I'm not owed eternal agreement from any actor who once played a character I created. The idea is as ludicrous as me checking with the boss I had when I was twenty-one for what opinions I should hold these days.

Emma Watson and her co-stars have every right to embrace gender identity ideology. Such beliefs are legally protected, and I wouldn't want to see any of them threatened with loss of work, or violence, or death, because of them.

However, Emma and Dan in particular have both made it clear over the last few years that they think our former professional association gives them a particular right - nay, obligation - to critique me and my views in public. Years after they finished acting in Potter, they continue to assume the role of de facto spokespeople for the world I created.

When you've known people since they were ten years old it's hard to shake a certain protectiveness. Until quite recently, I hadn't managed to throw off the memory of children who needed to be gently coaxed through their dialogue in a big scary film studio. For the past few years, I've repeatedly declined invitations from journalists to comment on Emma specifically, most notably on the Witch Trials of JK Rowling. Ironically, I told the producers that I didn't want her to be hounded as the result of anything I said.

The television presenter in the attached clip highlights Emma's 'all witches' speech, and in truth, that was a turning point for me, but it had a postscript that hurt far more than the speech itself. Emma asked someone to pass on a handwritten note from her to me, which contained the single sentence 'I'm so sorry for what you're going through' (she has my phone number). This was back when the death, rape and torture threats against me were at their peak, at a time when my personal security measures had had to be tightened considerably and I was constantly worried for my family's safety. Emma had just publicly poured more petrol on the flames, yet thought a one line expression of concern from her would reassure me of her fundamental sympathy and kindness.

Like other people who've never experienced adult life uncushioned by wealth and fame, Emma has so little experience of real life she's ignorant of how ignorant she is. She'll never need a homeless shelter. She's never going to be placed on a mixed sex public hospital ward. I'd be astounded if she's been in a high street changing room since childhood. Her 'public bathroom' is single occupancy and comes with a security man standing guard outside the door. Has she had to strip off in a newly mixed-sex changing room at a council-run swimming pool? Is she ever likely to need a state-run rape crisis centre that refuses to guarantee an all-female service? To find herself sharing a prison cell with a male rapist who's identified into the women's prison?

I wasn't a multimillionaire at fourteen. I lived in poverty while writing the book that made Emma famous. I therefore understand from my own life experience what the trashing of women's rights in which Emma has so enthusiastically participated means to women and girls without her privileges.

The greatest irony here is that, had Emma not decided in her most recent interview to declare that she loves and treasures me - a change of tack I suspect she's adopted because she's noticed full-throated condemnation of me is no longer quite as fashionable as it was - I might never have been this honest.

Adults can't expect to cosy up to an activist movement that regularly calls for a friend's assassination, then assert their right to the former friend's love, as though the friend was in fact their mother. Emma is rightly free to disagree with me and indeed to discuss her feelings about me in public - but I have the same right, and I've finally decided to exercise it.”

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YumYa · 29/09/2025 16:43

Butchyrestingface · 29/09/2025 16:12

Well, she's not as bright or as articulate as JKR so it may take her a while to fashion a response.

I think silence would be the better part of valour in this situation but we shall see.

Oh God no. She'd probably have to get someone to do it for her.

AgDulAmach · 29/09/2025 16:45

I get the impression (maybe wrongly) that if Emma gave JKR a genuine, heartfelt apology, JKR would totally let this go and be completely maganimous about it, which shows what a strong impression JKR makes as someone with real integrity.

Spookyspaghetti · 29/09/2025 16:47

I think it’s incredibly sad for them both. While I support women’s only spaces, and agree that JK has mostly been vilified for standing up for less fortunate women, now that the court ruling has confirmed her views weren’t based on bigotry, I think she needs to try and more forward with her life again and not keep getting dragged into DM clickbait during interviews. Otherwise she will never heal or move forward from this.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 29/09/2025 16:48

AgDulAmach · 29/09/2025 16:45

I get the impression (maybe wrongly) that if Emma gave JKR a genuine, heartfelt apology, JKR would totally let this go and be completely maganimous about it, which shows what a strong impression JKR makes as someone with real integrity.

Like Jo said: EW has her phone number.

fetachocolate · 29/09/2025 16:48

WinterTrees · 29/09/2025 16:30

Just re-watched the witches clip posted above. She mouths what very much appears to be a snide 'bar one', a theory which is supported by the fact that she's obviously a bit distracted and thrown off course afterwards and makes a hash of her presentation speech.

Even if you argue it was a more innocuous 'by the way' she had plenty of opportunity to set the record straight in the following media furore. Which she didn't.

Yes, she was happy to leave JKR to the wolves

JudgeJ · 29/09/2025 16:48

nomas · 29/09/2025 16:43

Why was it 2 hours 38 minutes long? 😂

I wouldn't be able to sit through her faux earnestness for that long.

Must be for the die hards.

Then is should have been left until Christmas!

tsmainsqueeze · 29/09/2025 16:49

I am so impressed with her absolutely perfect words .
Of course that 'silly girl' is entitled to her opinion but i question whether she would have such a strong opinion had she not had the success in life that her association with JK has given her.
Same as a pp neither am i a reader of JK's work but i have great admiration for her support of women and children and the positive effects on children in particular that her many books have given.
I hope these words make her critics think and maybe eat a little humble pie.

Witchlite · 29/09/2025 16:51

Everyone says EW is not bright. She’s at least above average - Oxford and an American university.

so what’s her excuse? Selfish, self-centred, uncaring? While parroting lines such as TWAW, be Kiiind …

Let’s not give her the excuse of lack of intelligence- it’s lack of integrity. Something JKR has in spades.

RominaDina · 29/09/2025 16:52

Spookyspaghetti · 29/09/2025 16:47

I think it’s incredibly sad for them both. While I support women’s only spaces, and agree that JK has mostly been vilified for standing up for less fortunate women, now that the court ruling has confirmed her views weren’t based on bigotry, I think she needs to try and more forward with her life again and not keep getting dragged into DM clickbait during interviews. Otherwise she will never heal or move forward from this.

Jo is standing up for women and girls, as she has always done, and always will.
She could have had an easy life, not engaging, not bothering with this. I admire the fact that she is tenacious and doesn't sit back, in spite of all the vile threats against her.
Respect.

RominaDina · 29/09/2025 16:53

Witchlite · 29/09/2025 16:51

Everyone says EW is not bright. She’s at least above average - Oxford and an American university.

so what’s her excuse? Selfish, self-centred, uncaring? While parroting lines such as TWAW, be Kiiind …

Let’s not give her the excuse of lack of intelligence- it’s lack of integrity. Something JKR has in spades.

She might have good book learning, but she's very unaware of what's actually impacting the lives of ordinary girls and women

AgDulAmach · 29/09/2025 16:53

Witchlite · 29/09/2025 16:51

Everyone says EW is not bright. She’s at least above average - Oxford and an American university.

so what’s her excuse? Selfish, self-centred, uncaring? While parroting lines such as TWAW, be Kiiind …

Let’s not give her the excuse of lack of intelligence- it’s lack of integrity. Something JKR has in spades.

I associate her views with stupidity, but as you say maybe that's letting her off the hook. She does come across as lacking in basic intelligence though, regardless of qualifications.

Maybe living a weird life of fame from such a young age damaged her?

fetachocolate · 29/09/2025 16:53

Spookyspaghetti · 29/09/2025 16:47

I think it’s incredibly sad for them both. While I support women’s only spaces, and agree that JK has mostly been vilified for standing up for less fortunate women, now that the court ruling has confirmed her views weren’t based on bigotry, I think she needs to try and more forward with her life again and not keep getting dragged into DM clickbait during interviews. Otherwise she will never heal or move forward from this.

I don't think EW is a great loss to JK in the grand scheme of things.

EW is a twit and will spend the rest of her life trying to live down her support for this movement. This is sad for EW only.

SerafinasGoose · 29/09/2025 16:54

RominaDina · 29/09/2025 16:52

Jo is standing up for women and girls, as she has always done, and always will.
She could have had an easy life, not engaging, not bothering with this. I admire the fact that she is tenacious and doesn't sit back, in spite of all the vile threats against her.
Respect.

Agreed.

Rowling has for the most part kept her counsel on Watson until this point. Why is she the only one expected to sit in silence whilst everyone else has their say?

She's been surprisingly reticent and far more forebearing than those doing the threatening, abusing and condemning deserve.

RominaDina · 29/09/2025 16:54

Maybe it's just a "fashionable" cause. She thinks she's being a proper lefty, perhaps.

CameForAVacationStayedForTheRevolution · 29/09/2025 16:56

NewGoldFox · 29/09/2025 15:18

I felt EW bringing this back up again was an attempt to redirect the news from her driving ban.

Or quite possibly because she has next to nothing else to talk about which will garner headlines (driving ban excepted). She’s an ex child actress who’s done nothing of note since and probably won’t ever do anything of note. She’s no young Maggie Smith. Her career is most likely over.

I understand she’s busy being a student now (probably after realising her adult acting career was going nowhere) and good for her. She must be bright if she’s at Oxford but she just needs to stop courting publicity and newspaper inches and wither away into obscurity.

SerafinasGoose · 29/09/2025 16:57

AgDulAmach · 29/09/2025 16:53

I associate her views with stupidity, but as you say maybe that's letting her off the hook. She does come across as lacking in basic intelligence though, regardless of qualifications.

Maybe living a weird life of fame from such a young age damaged her?

It's amazing the extent to which university standards (including entry requirements) have declined these days.

I speak from bitter personal experience.

fetachocolate · 29/09/2025 16:57

CameForAVacationStayedForTheRevolution · 29/09/2025 16:56

Or quite possibly because she has next to nothing else to talk about which will garner headlines (driving ban excepted). She’s an ex child actress who’s done nothing of note since and probably won’t ever do anything of note. She’s no young Maggie Smith. Her career is most likely over.

I understand she’s busy being a student now (probably after realising her adult acting career was going nowhere) and good for her. She must be bright if she’s at Oxford but she just needs to stop courting publicity and newspaper inches and wither away into obscurity.

I think anyone truly intelligent would have looked into why JKR was saying the things she was saying, out of intellectual curiosity if nothing else.

Halfquarterbag · 29/09/2025 16:58

KittyWilkinson · 29/09/2025 13:40

I'm so glad that JKR wrote that.
Measured and clear. It was long overdue.

Well timed, rather than overdue.

GailBlancheViola · 29/09/2025 16:58

1offnamechange · 29/09/2025 14:35

It's a good post and I'm glad she specified this bit:

"Im not owed eternal agreement from any actor who once played a character I created. The idea is as ludicrous as me checking with the boss I had when I was twenty-one for what opinions I should hold these days."

Lots of posters on here and even more so on X seem to think EW, DR, RG etc are duty bound to at least be polite to JKR/not disagree with her in public, if not fully support her, just because she wrote the books that made them famous. It's one of the laziest and most illogical arguments on the GC "side" (which tends to pride itself on working on the basis of logic and reason rather than hurty feelings) so I hope her specifically disagreeing with it will now mean it's retired.

20 years post HP, they are entitled to have any opinions they want and don't "owe" loyalty to JKR. However it also means they have to have the courage of their convictions like adults, and equally, aren't owed forgiveness either.

Lots of posters on here and even more so on X seem to think EW, DR, RG etc are duty bound to at least be polite to JKR/not disagree with her in public, if not fully support her, just because she wrote the books that made them famous. It's one of the laziest and most illogical arguments on the GC "side" (which tends to pride itself on working on the basis of logic and reason rather than hurty feelings) so I hope her specifically disagreeing with it will now mean it's retired.

That's not the argument I see GC people making, what I see is them saying that those actors have the right to disagree but not to denigrate JKR nor fan the flames of the pile on on her. However, EW, DR, RG were too cowardly to just state they disagreed and that JKR was as entitled to her view and to express it as they do theirs. Never once did they state the mob that was hounding (and still hounds JKR) should stop instead they joined in and relished doing so.

And yes, JKR is at the very least owed politeness and civilty as are we all in a civil and reasonable society.

AndOnAndOn1000 · 29/09/2025 16:58

So well said.
She's an admirable lady.

Absentosaur · 29/09/2025 16:59

nomas · 29/09/2025 16:04

Tbf, she doesn't say 'bar one'

I didn’t think she said bar one! Other people have made that up - because of course she did say it in an unspoken way.

On another note - watching that hideous speech makes me feel nauseous 🤮 🤢

DontCallMeLenYouLittleBollix · 29/09/2025 16:59

I wonder if perhaps Emma thought she was going to have an exciting career change, didn't find the DPhil as convival as she'd hoped and thought she'd have a go at pivoting back to 'acting'. Hence the shit attempt at an olive branch.

RominaDina · 29/09/2025 16:59

EW reminds me of those people in big detached houses in rich neighbourhoods with "Refugees Welcome" signs up.
Knowing full well that refugees wouldn't get within 5 miles of their house.

GailBlancheViola · 29/09/2025 17:02

Of course that 'silly girl' is entitled to her opinion but i question whether she would have such a strong opinion had she not had the success in life that her association with JK has given her.

Quite.

SerafinasGoose · 29/09/2025 17:03

DontCallMeLenYouLittleBollix · 29/09/2025 16:59

I wonder if perhaps Emma thought she was going to have an exciting career change, didn't find the DPhil as convival as she'd hoped and thought she'd have a go at pivoting back to 'acting'. Hence the shit attempt at an olive branch.

Anyone can begin a DPhil.

Finishing one is another matter. They can be a very isolating, solitary experience. Universities also don't give these things away like sweets. They are hard, demanding work and require a certain level of intellectual capability.

We shall see.

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