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JK on Emma Watson

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Lowarnes · 29/09/2025 13:08

A stunningly perfect response to Watson’s recent comments. Haven’t seen a thread on this so thought I’d post below:

”I'm seeing quite a bit of comment about this, so I want to make a couple of points.

I'm not owed eternal agreement from any actor who once played a character I created. The idea is as ludicrous as me checking with the boss I had when I was twenty-one for what opinions I should hold these days.

Emma Watson and her co-stars have every right to embrace gender identity ideology. Such beliefs are legally protected, and I wouldn't want to see any of them threatened with loss of work, or violence, or death, because of them.

However, Emma and Dan in particular have both made it clear over the last few years that they think our former professional association gives them a particular right - nay, obligation - to critique me and my views in public. Years after they finished acting in Potter, they continue to assume the role of de facto spokespeople for the world I created.

When you've known people since they were ten years old it's hard to shake a certain protectiveness. Until quite recently, I hadn't managed to throw off the memory of children who needed to be gently coaxed through their dialogue in a big scary film studio. For the past few years, I've repeatedly declined invitations from journalists to comment on Emma specifically, most notably on the Witch Trials of JK Rowling. Ironically, I told the producers that I didn't want her to be hounded as the result of anything I said.

The television presenter in the attached clip highlights Emma's 'all witches' speech, and in truth, that was a turning point for me, but it had a postscript that hurt far more than the speech itself. Emma asked someone to pass on a handwritten note from her to me, which contained the single sentence 'I'm so sorry for what you're going through' (she has my phone number). This was back when the death, rape and torture threats against me were at their peak, at a time when my personal security measures had had to be tightened considerably and I was constantly worried for my family's safety. Emma had just publicly poured more petrol on the flames, yet thought a one line expression of concern from her would reassure me of her fundamental sympathy and kindness.

Like other people who've never experienced adult life uncushioned by wealth and fame, Emma has so little experience of real life she's ignorant of how ignorant she is. She'll never need a homeless shelter. She's never going to be placed on a mixed sex public hospital ward. I'd be astounded if she's been in a high street changing room since childhood. Her 'public bathroom' is single occupancy and comes with a security man standing guard outside the door. Has she had to strip off in a newly mixed-sex changing room at a council-run swimming pool? Is she ever likely to need a state-run rape crisis centre that refuses to guarantee an all-female service? To find herself sharing a prison cell with a male rapist who's identified into the women's prison?

I wasn't a multimillionaire at fourteen. I lived in poverty while writing the book that made Emma famous. I therefore understand from my own life experience what the trashing of women's rights in which Emma has so enthusiastically participated means to women and girls without her privileges.

The greatest irony here is that, had Emma not decided in her most recent interview to declare that she loves and treasures me - a change of tack I suspect she's adopted because she's noticed full-throated condemnation of me is no longer quite as fashionable as it was - I might never have been this honest.

Adults can't expect to cosy up to an activist movement that regularly calls for a friend's assassination, then assert their right to the former friend's love, as though the friend was in fact their mother. Emma is rightly free to disagree with me and indeed to discuss her feelings about me in public - but I have the same right, and I've finally decided to exercise it.”

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OuterSpaceCadet · 29/09/2025 16:30

Allthatshines1992 · 29/09/2025 16:24

I always thought the hate on JKR was weird... What are they hating on exactly?

She's a genuine socialist (pays more than her fair share of tax, used to be Labour donor); a philanthropist who puts her money where her mouth is; she has both the lived experience of oppression and the power of wealth; her popularity as a writer has given her a huge global platform.

All very inconvenient if you want to convince ordinary people (especially young people) that it is progressive and "left wing" to follow this new, hyper capitalist, iteration of what is essentially a men's rights movement.

WinterTrees · 29/09/2025 16:30

Just re-watched the witches clip posted above. She mouths what very much appears to be a snide 'bar one', a theory which is supported by the fact that she's obviously a bit distracted and thrown off course afterwards and makes a hash of her presentation speech.

Even if you argue it was a more innocuous 'by the way' she had plenty of opportunity to set the record straight in the following media furore. Which she didn't.

SerafinasGoose · 29/09/2025 16:30

Greyskybluesky · 29/09/2025 13:12

Thank you OP.

"a change of tack I suspect she's adopted because she's noticed full-throated condemnation of me is no longer quite as fashionable as it was"

That was the quote which leapt off the page at me, too.

This just shows how the impressionable and ignorant don't even have the courage of their own convictions (if they are their own). They change about like weather vanes in the prevailing winds of popular opinion. TR activism is now past the point of being the latest cause celebre. So, rather than maintain her fiercely professed loyalty to The Ideology, Watson is reverse-ferreting because she realises it no longer serves her aim of looking 'kind', 'right on', and on the right side of history' a completely transparent stance especially given the acting roles seem to have dried up.

It's a shallow, despicable way to behave and Rowling is dead right not to let her off the hook.

Watson must think Rowling just fell off the back of the Hogwarts Express. What on earth else did she expect? I'm not surprised Rowling is in no mood to be conciliatory, and in her position, neither would I.

nomas · 29/09/2025 16:30

MrsTerryPratchett · 29/09/2025 16:23

Have a read of some first hand accounts of the cultural revolution. Although obviously the brutality of the CR in China is extreme, the way the media, culture and the young were leveraged by people in power to topple those who weren’t pure in mind and thought has stark parallels.

No nuance, no disagreement, nothing but slavish adherence to the party line permitted, the young turning on anything and anyone older, the feeling that silence or reasonableness in debate was as bad as wrongthink. The consequences of speaking out were dire and out of proportion to the initial comment.

JK is a perfect example. Her very reasonable and nuanced thoughts lead to death and rape threats. But in the minds of those doing it, that’s completely justified. Assaults on women, constant threats, doxxing and job loss, all fine if they said anything that wasn’t total capitulation to the party line.

As in the CR, it wasn’t actually about the party line, it was about power and influence. If you look at who benefits, it’s never the teenager.

Thanks, will have a read. Plus ça change and all that.

Bulbsbulbsbulbs · 29/09/2025 16:31

A brilliant response.

SerafinasGoose · 29/09/2025 16:34

Allthatshines1992 · 29/09/2025 16:24

I always thought the hate on JKR was weird... What are they hating on exactly?

I don't think they know.

At the very least, I've never found anyone who seems clearly able to articulate their reasons.

KafkasScooter · 29/09/2025 16:34

What an amazing response!

"When you've known people since they were ten years old it's hard to shake a certain protectiveness."

I'm SO glad she finally shook it off!

The fact that Watson was publicly back stabbing JKR to boost her own 'be kind' credentials while privately handing a 'so sorry' you're getting rape, torture and death threats note, knowing that she was adding to the threat, is what makes me so angry on JKR's behalf.

Watson knew exactly what she was doing and what she did is unforgivable.

RominaDina · 29/09/2025 16:34

Brilliant response. Perfect.
What an intelligent, sensitive woman, JKR is. I hope Emma understands the level of her privilege which protects her from the impact of this anti female ideology.

CornflakeGirlsClub · 29/09/2025 16:35

Emma is a #bekind dimwit who will go which ever way the wind blows on women’s rights to protect her extremely dull brand. Not an ounce of backbone and devoid of any real life experience. JK has called it perfectly.

feministmom4ever · 29/09/2025 16:35

OfDragonsDeep · 29/09/2025 14:38

I just read the BBC article on this, it’s awful

But unfortunately not surprising.

Handsomesoapdish · 29/09/2025 16:35

WinterTrees · 29/09/2025 16:30

Just re-watched the witches clip posted above. She mouths what very much appears to be a snide 'bar one', a theory which is supported by the fact that she's obviously a bit distracted and thrown off course afterwards and makes a hash of her presentation speech.

Even if you argue it was a more innocuous 'by the way' she had plenty of opportunity to set the record straight in the following media furore. Which she didn't.

Yep I noticed the same including her extremely poor delivery.

I’m glad JK included Dan in this too because he has been right there with EW making all of these preposterous comments on someone else’s views.

They could have aired and reaired their views which they were perfectly entitled to do without ever commenting on JKR but they choose not to do that from some sanctimonious superiority they developed by constantly being overhyped in their youth.

RominaDina · 29/09/2025 16:35

OuterSpaceCadet · 29/09/2025 16:30

She's a genuine socialist (pays more than her fair share of tax, used to be Labour donor); a philanthropist who puts her money where her mouth is; she has both the lived experience of oppression and the power of wealth; her popularity as a writer has given her a huge global platform.

All very inconvenient if you want to convince ordinary people (especially young people) that it is progressive and "left wing" to follow this new, hyper capitalist, iteration of what is essentially a men's rights movement.

This ⬆️

nauticant · 29/09/2025 16:35

As in the CR, it wasn’t actually about the party line, it was about power and influence. If you look at who benefits, it’s never the teenager.

IIRC, Mao felt threatened by the army who he felt were no longer under his control and he mobilised young people into such an extremely aggressive and widespread force so that the the army would step back from any potential confrontation.

ZoeCM · 29/09/2025 16:36

I'd love to be a fly on the wall of Emma Watson's (no doubt palatial) home right now. Does she feel embarrassed or guilty? Is she capable of introspection? Or is she saying, "Oh, how mean of Jo, I was only standing up for the poor trans people she was oppressing..."

LadyMary50 · 29/09/2025 16:37

JKR at her finest,articulate,measured,calm and absolutely right.EW is seeing the tide turn except its too little too late..

ThatCyanCat · 29/09/2025 16:37

WinterTrees · 29/09/2025 16:30

Just re-watched the witches clip posted above. She mouths what very much appears to be a snide 'bar one', a theory which is supported by the fact that she's obviously a bit distracted and thrown off course afterwards and makes a hash of her presentation speech.

Even if you argue it was a more innocuous 'by the way' she had plenty of opportunity to set the record straight in the following media furore. Which she didn't.

Exactly. Whatever she said, she was perfectly happy for everyone in the world, including JKR herself, to believe it was an attack on JKR, and so it might as well have been.

Craftysue · 29/09/2025 16:37

She's a really class act. Perfect response to Emma. J.K must have been really hurt by what was said by Emma and Daniel and has given a perfect response

InterestingMuch · 29/09/2025 16:39

Fantastic response on X. BBC article as annoying and inaccurate as expected. Complained to BBC about the bit that said "single-sex spaces she has campaigned against trans people having access to" line .

nomas · 29/09/2025 16:40

WinterTrees · 29/09/2025 16:30

Just re-watched the witches clip posted above. She mouths what very much appears to be a snide 'bar one', a theory which is supported by the fact that she's obviously a bit distracted and thrown off course afterwards and makes a hash of her presentation speech.

Even if you argue it was a more innocuous 'by the way' she had plenty of opportunity to set the record straight in the following media furore. Which she didn't.

OMG how did I not notice that! You're right!

Truly, truly awful, and then hypocritically sending a note to JKR secretly. Envy

RominaDina · 29/09/2025 16:41

scalt · 29/09/2025 16:27

“Ignorant of how ignorant they are”. Perfect.

Let hear the same about politicians who were born into wealth and privilege, and know nothing about how poor people live, while making decisions which affect poor people.

Exactly. Discounting the ordinary people, not cushioned by wealth or privilege, always expected to just suck up so called "progressive" policies.

KafkasScooter · 29/09/2025 16:41

Personally I found the Watson interview tedious and a reminder that she's not that great an actress.

nomas · 29/09/2025 16:41

1offnamechange · 29/09/2025 16:25

The alleged bar one/by the way refers to what she mouths immediately after. Nobody is disputing the "all the witches" part.

I agree it was pointed either way though.

Edited

Just rewatched it, you're right! How did I miss that!

crumpet · 29/09/2025 16:42

OfDragonsDeep · 29/09/2025 14:38

I just read the BBC article on this, it’s awful

It completely missed out the “bar one” which would leave anyone not familiar with the issue totally in the dark

AgDulAmach · 29/09/2025 16:42

I agree it's a brilliant response. I hope Emma reads it and takes something from it, but I imagine she's too immature to do that.

I do feel sorry for Emma. She was too famous too young and she isn't very bright. It's a tough combination. She's tried to claw back some credibility but she is up against it with JKR - it is not a good idea for someone as slow-witted as Emma to go up against someone as intelligent and quick thinking.

nomas · 29/09/2025 16:43

KafkasScooter · 29/09/2025 16:41

Personally I found the Watson interview tedious and a reminder that she's not that great an actress.

Why was it 2 hours 38 minutes long? 😂

I wouldn't be able to sit through her faux earnestness for that long.

Must be for the die hards.

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