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JK on Emma Watson

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Lowarnes · 29/09/2025 13:08

A stunningly perfect response to Watson’s recent comments. Haven’t seen a thread on this so thought I’d post below:

”I'm seeing quite a bit of comment about this, so I want to make a couple of points.

I'm not owed eternal agreement from any actor who once played a character I created. The idea is as ludicrous as me checking with the boss I had when I was twenty-one for what opinions I should hold these days.

Emma Watson and her co-stars have every right to embrace gender identity ideology. Such beliefs are legally protected, and I wouldn't want to see any of them threatened with loss of work, or violence, or death, because of them.

However, Emma and Dan in particular have both made it clear over the last few years that they think our former professional association gives them a particular right - nay, obligation - to critique me and my views in public. Years after they finished acting in Potter, they continue to assume the role of de facto spokespeople for the world I created.

When you've known people since they were ten years old it's hard to shake a certain protectiveness. Until quite recently, I hadn't managed to throw off the memory of children who needed to be gently coaxed through their dialogue in a big scary film studio. For the past few years, I've repeatedly declined invitations from journalists to comment on Emma specifically, most notably on the Witch Trials of JK Rowling. Ironically, I told the producers that I didn't want her to be hounded as the result of anything I said.

The television presenter in the attached clip highlights Emma's 'all witches' speech, and in truth, that was a turning point for me, but it had a postscript that hurt far more than the speech itself. Emma asked someone to pass on a handwritten note from her to me, which contained the single sentence 'I'm so sorry for what you're going through' (she has my phone number). This was back when the death, rape and torture threats against me were at their peak, at a time when my personal security measures had had to be tightened considerably and I was constantly worried for my family's safety. Emma had just publicly poured more petrol on the flames, yet thought a one line expression of concern from her would reassure me of her fundamental sympathy and kindness.

Like other people who've never experienced adult life uncushioned by wealth and fame, Emma has so little experience of real life she's ignorant of how ignorant she is. She'll never need a homeless shelter. She's never going to be placed on a mixed sex public hospital ward. I'd be astounded if she's been in a high street changing room since childhood. Her 'public bathroom' is single occupancy and comes with a security man standing guard outside the door. Has she had to strip off in a newly mixed-sex changing room at a council-run swimming pool? Is she ever likely to need a state-run rape crisis centre that refuses to guarantee an all-female service? To find herself sharing a prison cell with a male rapist who's identified into the women's prison?

I wasn't a multimillionaire at fourteen. I lived in poverty while writing the book that made Emma famous. I therefore understand from my own life experience what the trashing of women's rights in which Emma has so enthusiastically participated means to women and girls without her privileges.

The greatest irony here is that, had Emma not decided in her most recent interview to declare that she loves and treasures me - a change of tack I suspect she's adopted because she's noticed full-throated condemnation of me is no longer quite as fashionable as it was - I might never have been this honest.

Adults can't expect to cosy up to an activist movement that regularly calls for a friend's assassination, then assert their right to the former friend's love, as though the friend was in fact their mother. Emma is rightly free to disagree with me and indeed to discuss her feelings about me in public - but I have the same right, and I've finally decided to exercise it.”

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nomas · 29/09/2025 16:10

Keenovay · 29/09/2025 16:06

Spot on. The scoldings. The public denunciations and recantations. The zealotry. The dehumanisation. I might reread Jung Chang's Wild Swans to savour the parallels.

What are the parallels, sorry?

Butchyrestingface · 29/09/2025 16:12

YumYa · 29/09/2025 16:08

Wow what a fantastic response.

Emma's going to love that 😅

Well, she's not as bright or as articulate as JKR so it may take her a while to fashion a response.

I think silence would be the better part of valour in this situation but we shall see.

BBQCF · 29/09/2025 16:13

The BBC reporting on this is utterly disingenuous. It mentions Watson's "Here for ALL the witches" but totally fails to mention the "except one". That puts a completely different spin on it - e.g. Watson being inclusive, Rowling being churlish. Shitty reporting.

fetachocolate · 29/09/2025 16:14

I'm no fan of Watson and think JKR is amazing but I genuinely think Watson said 'by the way' instead of 'bar one' during the speech - I didn't see it as referencing JK at all. It doesn't really matter though. Either way Watson has been an idiot and a handmaiden.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 29/09/2025 16:16

It was also excellent to point out that people like EW and DR can’t keep speaking for the films given the distance in time. They are no longer spokespeople for the HP franchise.

Slipperhead · 29/09/2025 16:16

PepeParapluie · 29/09/2025 13:16

I never fail to be impressed with how JKR expresses herself.

Ditto. She's fab.
EW and how she has spoken of JKR was very distasteful.
I think her response/slap down is timely and warranted.

Slothtoes · 29/09/2025 16:17

JKR is glorious.

considertheravens · 29/09/2025 16:18

JKR amazing and classy as always.Flowers

JudgeJ · 29/09/2025 16:18

PepeParapluie · 29/09/2025 13:16

I never fail to be impressed with how JKR expresses herself.

It's the reason she's as rich as she is! So glad to see Watson et al being put back in their box.

nomas · 29/09/2025 16:18

fetachocolate · 29/09/2025 16:14

I'm no fan of Watson and think JKR is amazing but I genuinely think Watson said 'by the way' instead of 'bar one' during the speech - I didn't see it as referencing JK at all. It doesn't really matter though. Either way Watson has been an idiot and a handmaiden.

I posted the video upthread, she doesn't say 'bar one', she said 'I'm here for all the witches.' It was pointed though.

OuterSpaceCadet · 29/09/2025 16:19

fetachocolate · 29/09/2025 16:14

I'm no fan of Watson and think JKR is amazing but I genuinely think Watson said 'by the way' instead of 'bar one' during the speech - I didn't see it as referencing JK at all. It doesn't really matter though. Either way Watson has been an idiot and a handmaiden.

Was it widely reported at the time? Did Emma correct any misreading of what she said?

LizzieSiddal · 29/09/2025 16:19

JK Rowling: Emma Watson is ignorant of her own ignorance.

Absolute nail on head. It sums up all the privileged women who will likely never need the public single sex services they have tried to allow TW access to.

nomas · 29/09/2025 16:19

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 29/09/2025 16:16

It was also excellent to point out that people like EW and DR can’t keep speaking for the films given the distance in time. They are no longer spokespeople for the HP franchise.

Hopefully they will both fade into obscurity. I can't think of any stupendously acted roles from them.

Edited to add: I think it's possibly telling that they don't have cameos in the new HP series.

nomas · 29/09/2025 16:20

LizzieSiddal · 29/09/2025 16:19

JK Rowling: Emma Watson is ignorant of her own ignorance.

Absolute nail on head. It sums up all the privileged women who will likely never need the public single sex services they have tried to allow TW access to.

And sums up much of what's wrong with the UK today (Stephen Yaxley Lennon and Reform supporters etc).

Lighteningstrikes · 29/09/2025 16:20

An excellent and realistic response from an extremely intelligent lady.

fetachocolate · 29/09/2025 16:21

nomas · 29/09/2025 16:19

Hopefully they will both fade into obscurity. I can't think of any stupendously acted roles from them.

Edited to add: I think it's possibly telling that they don't have cameos in the new HP series.

Edited

They definitely will. Watson cannot act.

WhatDidYouThink · 29/09/2025 16:22

What a masterfully written statement 🙌

Butchyrestingface · 29/09/2025 16:22

How long before Emma Watson herself is terfed and feathered by TRAs outraged by her public pronouncements of lingering affection for the Chief Wizard of Literal Genocide? ⏳⌛️

JudgeJ · 29/09/2025 16:23

Citrusbergamia · 29/09/2025 13:10

A perfect response.

(JKR's response has been mentioned on another thread on here btw - Well, hello Emma Watson | Mumsnet)

A wonderfully crafted piece of writing. It's on a par with the late Queen's 'recollections may vary', ie you're a pair of liars without saying you're a pair of liars.

MrsTerryPratchett · 29/09/2025 16:23

nomas · 29/09/2025 16:10

What are the parallels, sorry?

Have a read of some first hand accounts of the cultural revolution. Although obviously the brutality of the CR in China is extreme, the way the media, culture and the young were leveraged by people in power to topple those who weren’t pure in mind and thought has stark parallels.

No nuance, no disagreement, nothing but slavish adherence to the party line permitted, the young turning on anything and anyone older, the feeling that silence or reasonableness in debate was as bad as wrongthink. The consequences of speaking out were dire and out of proportion to the initial comment.

JK is a perfect example. Her very reasonable and nuanced thoughts lead to death and rape threats. But in the minds of those doing it, that’s completely justified. Assaults on women, constant threats, doxxing and job loss, all fine if they said anything that wasn’t total capitulation to the party line.

As in the CR, it wasn’t actually about the party line, it was about power and influence. If you look at who benefits, it’s never the teenager.

Allthatshines1992 · 29/09/2025 16:24

Lowarnes · 29/09/2025 13:08

A stunningly perfect response to Watson’s recent comments. Haven’t seen a thread on this so thought I’d post below:

”I'm seeing quite a bit of comment about this, so I want to make a couple of points.

I'm not owed eternal agreement from any actor who once played a character I created. The idea is as ludicrous as me checking with the boss I had when I was twenty-one for what opinions I should hold these days.

Emma Watson and her co-stars have every right to embrace gender identity ideology. Such beliefs are legally protected, and I wouldn't want to see any of them threatened with loss of work, or violence, or death, because of them.

However, Emma and Dan in particular have both made it clear over the last few years that they think our former professional association gives them a particular right - nay, obligation - to critique me and my views in public. Years after they finished acting in Potter, they continue to assume the role of de facto spokespeople for the world I created.

When you've known people since they were ten years old it's hard to shake a certain protectiveness. Until quite recently, I hadn't managed to throw off the memory of children who needed to be gently coaxed through their dialogue in a big scary film studio. For the past few years, I've repeatedly declined invitations from journalists to comment on Emma specifically, most notably on the Witch Trials of JK Rowling. Ironically, I told the producers that I didn't want her to be hounded as the result of anything I said.

The television presenter in the attached clip highlights Emma's 'all witches' speech, and in truth, that was a turning point for me, but it had a postscript that hurt far more than the speech itself. Emma asked someone to pass on a handwritten note from her to me, which contained the single sentence 'I'm so sorry for what you're going through' (she has my phone number). This was back when the death, rape and torture threats against me were at their peak, at a time when my personal security measures had had to be tightened considerably and I was constantly worried for my family's safety. Emma had just publicly poured more petrol on the flames, yet thought a one line expression of concern from her would reassure me of her fundamental sympathy and kindness.

Like other people who've never experienced adult life uncushioned by wealth and fame, Emma has so little experience of real life she's ignorant of how ignorant she is. She'll never need a homeless shelter. She's never going to be placed on a mixed sex public hospital ward. I'd be astounded if she's been in a high street changing room since childhood. Her 'public bathroom' is single occupancy and comes with a security man standing guard outside the door. Has she had to strip off in a newly mixed-sex changing room at a council-run swimming pool? Is she ever likely to need a state-run rape crisis centre that refuses to guarantee an all-female service? To find herself sharing a prison cell with a male rapist who's identified into the women's prison?

I wasn't a multimillionaire at fourteen. I lived in poverty while writing the book that made Emma famous. I therefore understand from my own life experience what the trashing of women's rights in which Emma has so enthusiastically participated means to women and girls without her privileges.

The greatest irony here is that, had Emma not decided in her most recent interview to declare that she loves and treasures me - a change of tack I suspect she's adopted because she's noticed full-throated condemnation of me is no longer quite as fashionable as it was - I might never have been this honest.

Adults can't expect to cosy up to an activist movement that regularly calls for a friend's assassination, then assert their right to the former friend's love, as though the friend was in fact their mother. Emma is rightly free to disagree with me and indeed to discuss her feelings about me in public - but I have the same right, and I've finally decided to exercise it.”

I always thought the hate on JKR was weird... What are they hating on exactly?

1offnamechange · 29/09/2025 16:25

nomas · 29/09/2025 16:18

I posted the video upthread, she doesn't say 'bar one', she said 'I'm here for all the witches.' It was pointed though.

The alleged bar one/by the way refers to what she mouths immediately after. Nobody is disputing the "all the witches" part.

I agree it was pointed either way though.

Butchyrestingface · 29/09/2025 16:25

Allthatshines1992 · 29/09/2025 16:24

I always thought the hate on JKR was weird... What are they hating on exactly?

She doesn't believe men can be women so ... 🤷‍♀️

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 29/09/2025 16:26

fetachocolate · 29/09/2025 16:21

They definitely will. Watson cannot act.

She was a very lucky girl to be cast at all.

The girl who played Lavender auditioned for Hermione, and didn’t get the part.

She’s an excellent actress, and would have given Hermione a lot more depth.

scalt · 29/09/2025 16:27

“Ignorant of how ignorant they are”. Perfect.

Let hear the same about politicians who were born into wealth and privilege, and know nothing about how poor people live, while making decisions which affect poor people.

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