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JK on Emma Watson

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Lowarnes · 29/09/2025 13:08

A stunningly perfect response to Watson’s recent comments. Haven’t seen a thread on this so thought I’d post below:

”I'm seeing quite a bit of comment about this, so I want to make a couple of points.

I'm not owed eternal agreement from any actor who once played a character I created. The idea is as ludicrous as me checking with the boss I had when I was twenty-one for what opinions I should hold these days.

Emma Watson and her co-stars have every right to embrace gender identity ideology. Such beliefs are legally protected, and I wouldn't want to see any of them threatened with loss of work, or violence, or death, because of them.

However, Emma and Dan in particular have both made it clear over the last few years that they think our former professional association gives them a particular right - nay, obligation - to critique me and my views in public. Years after they finished acting in Potter, they continue to assume the role of de facto spokespeople for the world I created.

When you've known people since they were ten years old it's hard to shake a certain protectiveness. Until quite recently, I hadn't managed to throw off the memory of children who needed to be gently coaxed through their dialogue in a big scary film studio. For the past few years, I've repeatedly declined invitations from journalists to comment on Emma specifically, most notably on the Witch Trials of JK Rowling. Ironically, I told the producers that I didn't want her to be hounded as the result of anything I said.

The television presenter in the attached clip highlights Emma's 'all witches' speech, and in truth, that was a turning point for me, but it had a postscript that hurt far more than the speech itself. Emma asked someone to pass on a handwritten note from her to me, which contained the single sentence 'I'm so sorry for what you're going through' (she has my phone number). This was back when the death, rape and torture threats against me were at their peak, at a time when my personal security measures had had to be tightened considerably and I was constantly worried for my family's safety. Emma had just publicly poured more petrol on the flames, yet thought a one line expression of concern from her would reassure me of her fundamental sympathy and kindness.

Like other people who've never experienced adult life uncushioned by wealth and fame, Emma has so little experience of real life she's ignorant of how ignorant she is. She'll never need a homeless shelter. She's never going to be placed on a mixed sex public hospital ward. I'd be astounded if she's been in a high street changing room since childhood. Her 'public bathroom' is single occupancy and comes with a security man standing guard outside the door. Has she had to strip off in a newly mixed-sex changing room at a council-run swimming pool? Is she ever likely to need a state-run rape crisis centre that refuses to guarantee an all-female service? To find herself sharing a prison cell with a male rapist who's identified into the women's prison?

I wasn't a multimillionaire at fourteen. I lived in poverty while writing the book that made Emma famous. I therefore understand from my own life experience what the trashing of women's rights in which Emma has so enthusiastically participated means to women and girls without her privileges.

The greatest irony here is that, had Emma not decided in her most recent interview to declare that she loves and treasures me - a change of tack I suspect she's adopted because she's noticed full-throated condemnation of me is no longer quite as fashionable as it was - I might never have been this honest.

Adults can't expect to cosy up to an activist movement that regularly calls for a friend's assassination, then assert their right to the former friend's love, as though the friend was in fact their mother. Emma is rightly free to disagree with me and indeed to discuss her feelings about me in public - but I have the same right, and I've finally decided to exercise it.”

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Sparks654 · 29/09/2025 21:21

What I find particularly sad in all this, is that JK and a handful of others have seemingly been left on their own to be the ones to take the bullets. Where are all the men standing up for their wives and daughters? Seriously, it's pretty depressing. She is an immensely courageous woman and having experienced being cancelled myself for standing up for women's rights, I can only begin to imagine how hard it has been for her and how her whole life now is about this. She could have been cashing cheques, shaking hands and smiling but she has decided to stand up for all women, at her own personal cost, and for that, I for one am eternally grateful.

TimeForATerf · 29/09/2025 21:21

Tandora · 29/09/2025 18:33

Celebrating someone saying "burn Watson burn". I think your true colours are showing in all their vibrant and profound hypocrisy. .

“Burn Watson, burn” were my words and were indeed meant to mean Emma had been roasted well and truly. You know, the ultimate put down? There wasn’t even a thought of a witch when I wrote it, it’s not that deep Sir, but your response shows your true colours in greater depth than anyone else’s.

BTW, I got a lot of likes for that comment 😙

Tandora · 29/09/2025 21:22

KateShugakIsALegend · 29/09/2025 21:13

Just checking in for the update when @tandora cites some facts on this claim

that would be as worthwhile and as valuable a use of my time as presenting Trump with facts about autism .

AnastasiaBeeverhausen · 29/09/2025 21:22

KateShugakIsALegend · 29/09/2025 21:13

Just checking in for the update when @tandora cites some facts on this claim

There aren’t any facts. Transwomen (men) are vastly more likely to be murderers than murdered.

AnSolas · 29/09/2025 21:23

Athreedoorwardrobe · 29/09/2025 20:45

Nah she sounds like a boomer mum whose thinly disguising her "how dare you criticize me when I put a roof over your head!' with a long spiel. Very bitter vibes. There was no need.
Emma talks about it BECAUSE SHE GETS CONSTANTLY ASKED ABOUT IT online and by media outlets.

Shocking idea!

An adult can choose to say "no comment " to any question she wants to make no comment about.

But nice go at being the tone police🤣

JulesJules · 29/09/2025 21:25

SirEctor · 29/09/2025 19:37

Speeding.

Speeding in Oxford which is quite an achievement

KateShugakIsALegend · 29/09/2025 21:25

Tandora · 29/09/2025 21:22

that would be as worthwhile and as valuable a use of my time as presenting Trump with facts about autism .

Edited

So.... None.

More @Tandora timewasting

Sparks654 · 29/09/2025 21:25

KnottyAuty · 29/09/2025 20:21

Eviscerate is a bit hyperbolic don’t you think?

Emma Watson has unfortunately been a proud advocate for Mermaids (before their disgrace and investigation by the Charity Commission). Why on earth are you worried about her “humiliation” when she’s advocated for the mutilation and sterilisation of children?

Your “be kind” post is really weird in this context so I’ll assume you weren’t aware…

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Emma Watson is betraying her sex in order to gain popularity among a few trans identifying men. It's crazy. Where she could be using her voice for good, she has decided to double down on the patriarchy.

Hulabalu · 29/09/2025 21:26

Terfarina · 29/09/2025 21:13

Please let me know how it is possible to be born in the wrong body. How do I know if I am a man or a woman?

I don’t know because I haven’t experienced it. But I can use my imagination a bit and extend sympathy to those who do experience it. I imagine it to be a bit like body dysmorphia? Extremely uncomfortable with your anatomy and how you look?

HappyNewTaxYear · 29/09/2025 21:27

JulesJules · 29/09/2025 21:25

Speeding in Oxford which is quite an achievement

Yes indeed 🤣🤣🤣

TheKeatingFive · 29/09/2025 21:29

Hulabalu · 29/09/2025 21:26

I don’t know because I haven’t experienced it. But I can use my imagination a bit and extend sympathy to those who do experience it. I imagine it to be a bit like body dysmorphia? Extremely uncomfortable with your anatomy and how you look?

Feeling uncomfortable in your body is not the same as 'being born in the wrong body' which is a completely nonsensical statement.

How can anyone know what it feels like to be born in a different body?

Its a category error.

Gagaandgag · 29/09/2025 21:31

Wow love it

KateShugakIsALegend · 29/09/2025 21:31

Hulabalu · 29/09/2025 21:26

I don’t know because I haven’t experienced it. But I can use my imagination a bit and extend sympathy to those who do experience it. I imagine it to be a bit like body dysmorphia? Extremely uncomfortable with your anatomy and how you look?

It sounds an awful lot like a mental health issue to me, where you have a fully functioning body with no physical issues.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 29/09/2025 21:31

Hulabalu · 29/09/2025 21:26

I don’t know because I haven’t experienced it. But I can use my imagination a bit and extend sympathy to those who do experience it. I imagine it to be a bit like body dysmorphia? Extremely uncomfortable with your anatomy and how you look?

Must be extremely uncomfortable yes. Still
doesn’t give men a right to go into spaces and take sporting places not for them though, does it.

Laura95167 · 29/09/2025 21:31

I dont even agree with all of JKRs, but even I feel this is a more than reasonable response.

Its fine to disagree with someone, its not cool to patronise someone because you disagree and then act like they owe you a favour.

AnSolas · 29/09/2025 21:32

AnastasiaBeeverhausen · 29/09/2025 21:11

It’s a pathetic excuse anyway. What’s she even on about? EVERYONE has to rely on being driven around by other people until
they learn to drive.

Sat nav.

These days what car has no sat nav with speed limits which are pretty much bang on?

teawamutu · 29/09/2025 21:32

Tandora · 29/09/2025 21:22

that would be as worthwhile and as valuable a use of my time as presenting Trump with facts about autism .

Edited

Plus, you can't produce what doesn't exist.

ThatCyanCat · 29/09/2025 21:33

Hulabalu · 29/09/2025 21:26

I don’t know because I haven’t experienced it. But I can use my imagination a bit and extend sympathy to those who do experience it. I imagine it to be a bit like body dysmorphia? Extremely uncomfortable with your anatomy and how you look?

I'm sure it's horrible for the tiny number of people who genuinely suffer from it. They still aren't the opposite sex though, and access to naked and unconsenting women and girls isn't a mental health therapy or a man's human right.

JKR has a lot of positive contact on X with trans people who do not wish to force entry into opposite sex spaces.

Hulabalu · 29/09/2025 21:33

TheKeatingFive · 29/09/2025 21:29

Feeling uncomfortable in your body is not the same as 'being born in the wrong body' which is a completely nonsensical statement.

How can anyone know what it feels like to be born in a different body?

Its a category error.

This is how I’ve heard it described, a feeling from a very young age that you should have been born a different gender, a feeling that never goes away but increases . If that’s how someone describes it you can’t just reply to them that their feeling is “nonsense, category error” ?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 29/09/2025 21:36

Tandora · 29/09/2025 21:22

that would be as worthwhile and as valuable a use of my time as presenting Trump with facts about autism .

Edited

Trump would probably present more credible facts than you Tandora at this stage. I thought you were hiding these boards?

Hulabalu · 29/09/2025 21:36

ThatCyanCat · 29/09/2025 21:33

I'm sure it's horrible for the tiny number of people who genuinely suffer from it. They still aren't the opposite sex though, and access to naked and unconsenting women and girls isn't a mental health therapy or a man's human right.

JKR has a lot of positive contact on X with trans people who do not wish to force entry into opposite sex spaces.

Oh I agree , I support safe women only spaces. I agree with a lot JKR says. Just don’t know why she’s bashing Emma when Emma hasn’t said anything bad about JKR I don’t think. Just expressed her own views

ThatCyanCat · 29/09/2025 21:37

Hulabalu · 29/09/2025 21:33

This is how I’ve heard it described, a feeling from a very young age that you should have been born a different gender, a feeling that never goes away but increases . If that’s how someone describes it you can’t just reply to them that their feeling is “nonsense, category error” ?

Of course you can if you're not their therapist. You aren't obliged to have any particular feelings about their condition or belief or any particular reaction to it except of course not to attack them or illegally discriminate against them.

You can very legally keep them out of spaces for people of the sex they're not but that's nothing to do with being trans, it's to do with being male or female.

RominaDina · 29/09/2025 21:38

Hulabalu · 29/09/2025 21:36

Oh I agree , I support safe women only spaces. I agree with a lot JKR says. Just don’t know why she’s bashing Emma when Emma hasn’t said anything bad about JKR I don’t think. Just expressed her own views

Can you show us where she's "bashing" Emma? I haven't seen that.

ThatCyanCat · 29/09/2025 21:38

Hulabalu · 29/09/2025 21:36

Oh I agree , I support safe women only spaces. I agree with a lot JKR says. Just don’t know why she’s bashing Emma when Emma hasn’t said anything bad about JKR I don’t think. Just expressed her own views

You've not been following very closely.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 29/09/2025 21:39

Hulabalu · 29/09/2025 21:33

This is how I’ve heard it described, a feeling from a very young age that you should have been born a different gender, a feeling that never goes away but increases . If that’s how someone describes it you can’t just reply to them that their feeling is “nonsense, category error” ?

What if someone thought from a young age that they were a cat? Would you validate that if they continued to think that as they got older? If a man suddenly declared their true authentic self is they felt they were 12 years of age and not the 45 years they actually are?
What about anorexics? They truly believe they are fat. Would you affirm that?

Where is your line? Is it just sex that is fair game?

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