Another breastfeeding one

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Couldn’t see a thread on this.
In the latest of Breastfeeding batshittery..‘Breastfeeding and Lactation Support UK’ have today posted this.

I am so angered by it. The UK breastfeeding rates are amongst some of the lowest globally. We should be empowering women, not erasing them. Encouraging them to leave if they disagree?? They should be ashamed.

There are women, mothers in this group (that have been in ‘yours’) who you have stuck your finger up to and refused to listen to.

I’d be asking for another midwife.

Staff don’t take abuse! Staff take abuse all day long. Now I know you aren’t an HCP.

It's not a new update doll it's been implemented for many years it's stated all over the group it's not hidden from members. We've been fully open inclusive since 2022 ISH!!.

And some may like to be called mum but I'm not their 'friend' or family member I am a health care professional so I will address been as so. If someone specifically asked for me to call them mum then of course I would also respect that too.

But you said you excluded biological men. Also you said you only supported females but some males lactate too. How can you support any males who lactate? Or are they excluded from your “inclusive” group? And do please point out my transphobia or apologise.

They can find another group and another midwife if they want.

Well take abuse towards ourselves we wouldn't allow patients to abuse other patients.

Using ‘babe’ and ‘doll’ is fine, however.

I will be recommending all my trans and NB friends do so. You seem very uneducated and slightly TERFy. I’ll recommend LLL, they’re much more inclusive and supportive of trans folx

I'm so glad the breast feeding years are behind me.
What have I just read?
Gender identity is more important than supporting mothers and babies
The word mama is apparently derogatory and gives a midwife the ick.
Any women who disagrees is asked to leave the session
No wonder breast feeding rates are so low.

And this abuse is typing ‘hey mamas’ at the start of a message?

But not all new parents or mums do feel that way? Becoming a mother can be really complex for lots of women and not all women do embrace and enjoy it for loads of valid reasons. If you do, then that's great and I'm happy that you do, but surely there's also space to acknowledge that not all women feel that way or experience it that way. And that can carry a lot of shame and guilt for women who struggle with it which can be really isolating. Same can apply to men around becoming a parent as well. It's important that people are allowed space to decide how they feel about it rather than people presuming that they must feel a particular way. That could really shut down important conversations around PPD, ACEs, DV or SA etc which people deserve to be able to open up about.

Are you assuming I identify as a doll or that everybody likes being called one?
Is being rude how we do #bekind?

Yep coz once again I don't have to be professional on Mumsnet 🤣

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 such a troll

This woefully dismal attitude towards motherhood reflects really badly on you.

I know you feel you are being impressively progressive but actually your ideology is regressive and moreover, it's a stale fad that stopped being edgy around 2017. If you are financially dependant on making a career for yourself then I would urge you reconsider this pose of yours, for your own sake obviously, as your clearly are not the altruistic caring type.

You have googled the definition for lactation… right?

“Breastfeeding and lactation” is inclusive to all.

Yes It appears her inclusivity is not very inclusive. I feel personally offended at those gendered terms. Unless of course she is referring to the “dolls” we all must protect. In which case, she’s fine.

I think the concern is that you might be bringing the nursing profession into disrepute. Which the NMC takes seriously.

I haven't used #bekind and you don't care about people's choices around their own identity do you? So why now?

Im not though. The NMC are also inclusionary. They advocate for inclusive language to be used.

The correct term is chestfeeding. Please stop using terms offensive to trans folx. Do better.

But that’s why you should be professional on social media.

Literally not what it says anywhere.

Im not financially dependent on a career no. Everyone who needs to is also aware regarding the group I run and how its ran they knew about it before I got my place on my course... In fact it's partly why I got on my course and why I've been given an excellence scholarship from them for the group.

Why are you all trying to damage someone’s career because you don’t agree with inclusivity?

you lot are nasty.