Charlie Kirk assassin was living with trans roommate

[ThatZanyFatball]

May have been lovers, and sounds like he knew ahead of time that it was going to happen.

Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin Tyler Robinson lived with transgender partner: source

Nadia Whittome and Loyd Russell Moyle actually literally shared a platform outside Parliament with convicted torturer and attempted murderer TRA Alan “Sarah Jane” Baker, to a backdrop of a crowd shouting “fuck Keir Starmer”.

Possibly, but you may also be out of date on what young, left leaning people believe. The US Fire college free speech rankings found that - while young Democrats might be less likely than young Republicans to say that using violence to stop a speaker might be acceptable - we’re looking at around 25%.

Frighteningly, ‘haven’t thought much about this’ scores at 40% think violence is acceptable.

Also worth wondering when was the last time college Republicans tried to get a speaker cancelled, never mind succeeded. You'd probably have to go back 20+ years to the immediate post-9/11 period.

I dunno Sinner. There must be a reason why 'First against the wall, come the revolution' is a left wing trope.

I dunno Sinner. There must be a reason why 'First against the wall, come the revolution' is a left wing trope.

Eta I don't know why MN deemed that worth repeating and has anyone else's screens just changed colour or is it just my device.

I think there's been an update and now my screen has different features. Either that or it's the Mandela Effect.

Baby blue and weird pink, I thought MN had been hacked by tra.

Report in Mail today about why Twiggs was kicked out his family home.

Apparently he was drinking and taking drugs (remember Mormons don't drink).

So potentially this suggests drug use as a possibility.

He might even have been drinking coffee!

Actually it's a lot simpler than that.
He strongly disagreed with CK's views, or what he believed were CK's view particularly on homosexuality and trans. Issues.
He believed that CK was hateful and spread a message of hate.
He stated "I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can’t be negotiated out. "
He also stated stated, ‘I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I’m going to take it.’

His motives seem pretty clear to me.

Also, it's worth noting that such a straightforward hate motivation doesn't require TR to have any affiliation to Left or Right.

Well there is also information about how his parents were strong Trump supporters and how he argued with them and that his parents said his views had become increasingly left wing/ liberal/ woke.

But that is of course just his parents opinion

Ya boi Kneon talks about the feds now taking a hard look at online extremism, specifically the crazies who gather on Discord, Reddit and Twitch:

Some strong Trump supporters view mainstream Republicans as being on the Left. (That's not a comment on where TR might lie on a Left-Right spectrum.)

I'll wait till the evidence comes out at trial. If it shows TR was decidedly Left wing that would be no skin off my nose.

Alternatively he made have murdered CK in protest against the growing of palm oil in Indonesian rainforests.

But all the current evidence including statements by the killer point towards a left / liberal agenda particularly on gay and transgender issues.

However that won't stop certain posters trying to plant doubts with posts about him being a right wing extremist or mentally unwell or a racist or a fascist etc etc.

'MAGA' and 'left wing' can both be used as short hand to explain or excuse a rift that has a more painful or shameful root.

Many, many people are left wing and right wing, but even in America, politicians expect to go about their business without getting shot.

'Agenda' implies some kind of coherent opinion, but so far I don't think that there is much evidence that TR had one.

You are absolutely right and "agenda" was not the best wording.

But I think we can agree that the motive was principally driven by hate of CK and of CK's views.

Yeah, that's a fair point. But I do think on average drill music probably influences more violent crimes than playing Fortnite. But not so much the type we're seeing here. But I think you'd have to already be a bit unstable.

I used to be obsessed with first person shooters and it was more the competitive side I enjoyed. Playing against other teams with my mates etc. Defo encountered more trouble when I stopped gaming as much and started going out drinking and partying.

I think many people need to update their understanding of different subcultures on both the left and right. I often see people falling into these traps/fallacies where they have so cleanly linked a behaviour/opinion to left or right that they cannot believe anyone on the other side would do it, and critically, if they are doing it then they must "actually" be on the allocated side.

Like I've had people tell me with a straight face "oh is he a Tory? that really surprises me, I thought he was gay?" Honey have you seen the bar at Conservative party conference at 4am

Gun culture + trans rights + libertarian or separatist views is a fairly well-established combo at this point. If you know anything about this subculture though you would be unlikely to call it right wing. On political-compass quizzes they usually will say left-libertarian.

The more that comes out the more light is being shone on furry culture.

Apparently he played furry porn games and associated with artists who do cartoons of underage furries etc.

Not surprising to hear about the deranged nature of furries if you frequent GC circles as this has been warned about for years.

Doc Stocks's article in Unherd 😘

https://archive.ph/lIAhz

https://unherd.com/2025/09/toddler-logic-is-poisoning-politics/

The last paragraph is actually quite a lovely eulogy to Charlie Kirk and an indictment of his killer

But it’s tempting to think that it was not just the conservatism that these young people hated about Kirk: it was also that he acted ostentatiously like an adult. He was not frightened of sexual maturity and responsibility; he embraced these things. He actively told people not to give into every passing desire, but to be continent and restrained. He was also able to tolerate opposing viewpoints to his own, without feeling the threat of personal disintegration, or the need to get lost in defensive persecution complexes. Whatever else you think about the content of his particular belief system, these seem like decent qualities to aspire to; and presumably they made resentful, fearful, emotionally delayed adolescents of all ages stamp their feet and hate him all the more.

Stock, as ever, brings the insight on another level.

"Wow, this group of men who get their rocks off by pushing boundaries and breaking various social norms and taboos sure do give off a creepy vibe..."

"Don't kinkshame! They're not doing anything illegal! Everyone involved is consenting! You're just a prude! What gives you the right to decide what other people wear?!"

"I guess I can't quite justify what seems off about them aside from my gut feeling, and I guess I do like being allowed to wear jeans as a woman. Wait, what's this about 'fur cubs'...? Are those diapers they're wearing...?

Love and hate.

Tyler Robinson called Lance 'Love' in the exchange published and went out of his way to try and clear him from being implicated in the shooting.