Charlie Kirk assassin was living with trans roommate

[ThatZanyFatball]

May have been lovers, and sounds like he knew ahead of time that it was going to happen.

Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin Tyler Robinson lived with transgender partner: source

That's how they bullied their way into my lesbian social group and tried bullying, the young naive lesbians to have hetero-sex with them because 'they want to be considered women.'
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Well, it establishes what it was created to “establish”. Whether that turns out to be the truth or not is still to be seen.

“But these are gamers. It sounds more like an exchange between two Victorian misses.”

and there you have it.

In other thoughts I just can't help finding it a sad situation. Evidently for Kirk and family predominantly.

Also a young man making the decision to shoot someone because in their view he preaches "hate" - i.e. opposed same sex marriage and transgender care.

I've supported same sex marriage for a very long time and so I've had disagreements with Christians but in those pre social media days there wasn't the violent memes etc. We just ignored people and got on with life.

I imagine he'd get the death penalty, I'm British so I'd prefer he went to prison for a long time with hopefully the prospect of rehabilitation and seeing things differently.

I do also see a blame at activists that use these aggressive terms and celebrate Kirk's death.

I couldn’t care less what they want to be considered.

They’re still men and I refuse to call them anything else.

I won’t use any of that ‘cis’ nonsense either.

Just becaue that is what 'they' want it doesn't mean that others have to gift it to them. Other people have desires and needs too. Males are not female.

Yes, people who believe in all sorts of things 'exist'. But just because someone believes something about themselves it doesn't necessarily translate as other people agreeing with or accepting what it is they believe about themselves. Surely that is obvious?

I have heard this is a theory
Transmaxxing: the Incel-To-Transwoman Pipeline

I read an article this morning the chap, Nick Fuentes, who leads the Groyper Army group has said

“To all of my followers, if you take up arms, I disavow you,” adding: “I disown you in the strongest possible terms.”

https://archive.ph/5jcAq

www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/09/14/charlie-kirk-death-tyler-robinson-language-of-far-right/

Regarding the rest of the article, although I only read it today it is from a few days ago. It's fair to say events have overtaken it.

Big cross-over between LGB and T these days. In that lots of gay people end up adopting trans identities.

I see that we’re now finding the meaning of “to exist” as tricky as the meaning of “to share” in previous threads.

I've supported same sex marriage for a very long time and so I've had disagreements with Christians but in those pre social media days there wasn't the violent memes etc. We just ignored people and got on with life.

Yes, I haven't delved into it too much, but I now understand that online outrage and anger is somewhat addictive.

i'm guessing it's because when you're anonymous behind a screen, you can give vent to feelings that you would normally moderate. You couldn't get on in the real world if you said even a tenth of what people say online.

So there's something liberating about being able to say fuck no, that's shit, you're an idiot.

Add in the victim complex, with all your online mates egging you on.
And you've got furious outrage wrapped in a persecution complex, with zero exposure to real-world mitigation.

And yes, that is indeed why it can be very sad. Because when they come up against the massive brick wall of real life, everything shatters.

No. 99% of people don't recognise the word as referring to male people.

In fact, MBM did a poll about it and found there was great confusion about that specific term. And I am noticing that less and less people are using it in real life now too.

why should society use the terms they demand to be described by? You already called them deluded. So please tell us why we should feel that we have to use the terms you are saying we should use.

murrayblackburnmackenzie.org/2023/08/07/clarity-matters-how-placating-lobbyists-obscures-public-understanding-of-sex-and-gender/

We have had Transmaxxers explain this to us on a thread they started a few years ago here on FWR. It was most enlightening

One clear misunderstanding in that article is the suggestion that the GC persepctive is that Gender Identity is innate and is tied to Sex. In fact, GC rejects the idea of a fixed 'gender identity'.

You are either male or female regardless of how you identify.

Poor fucking Ethan Hawke - what did HE do??

I mean Nick Fuentes is basically an internet entrepreneur whose grift is provocative behaviour. Last seen hanging out with Kanye West and Milo Yiannopoulos, of whom we can say that Kanye is often off his meds and Milo is the ur-example of the internet provocation grifter.

I am really unconvinced that Fuentes leads a disciplined body of fascists with the capacity to take out their opponents. They got headlines a few years back for disrupting Charlie Kirk events on a smaller scale than the campus left used to do.

It would be useful if people learned to distinguish between political operators with genuine power and influence and followers, and insignificant dingbats who make a lot of noise on social media.

I watched some of his content for the first time t'other night.

Nick Fuentes was one of the names that kept coming up on Twitter, with outrighted far right Republicans saying CK was 'moderate' in comparison to NF and others.

And to think there was speculation that this was the work of a professional hit man.

From his naivety in the messages, it seems he thought it could play out like a video game mission. Drive to location, assassinate a high profile man in front of thousands of NPCs, leave location and the police will just stop looking and despawn if you stay out of their line of sight for a short while.

Stupid, stupid lad. He's thrown his whole life away for nothing, he's achieved fuck all. What a senseless waste of two lives.

"People that don't exist can't present any threat to women's rights surely?"

Correctly categorising this group of male people doesn't 'deny their existence'. And your repeated point simply doesn't make sense.

A group of male people are again causing significant pressure on the rights for female people to have single sex provisions. What is different compared to any other group of male people trying to remove the rights of female people to suit their own political agenda and their own wish list?

You are telling us there is a difference between this group of male people and the other groups of male people. They are all part of the same patriarchical structure, just because we reject their demand to use the category label doesn't make them disappear at all.

FFS. This is basic material reality. If we removed the label for female people altogether, will that mean that female people cease to exist in reality and that some how those female people don't still have the same needs as when we used the terms?

However, forcing the collective category label to include a group of male people (who are part of group oppressing the collective of people known as female people) does indeed significantly decrease the protection of that collective group. The group of female people still exist, but there is then no way to protect their needs.

So, the male group of people exist because they are still part of the collective category called male people and they certainly do continue to threaten 'women's rights'. I am not sure how you are coming to the this soundbite of 'if they don't exist they cannot present a threat to women's rights'? It sounds more like a superficial soundbite than a thought out rational response.

I had that exact reaction!!!

And to think there was speculation that this was the work of a professional hit man.

He managed to pull off the actual assassination and subsequent escape with frightening efficiency, although perhaps that was beginner's luck? That's why people thought it might be a professional hit.

The reality turned out to be more Mr Bean than James Bond. He definitely seems to have thought he was going to get away with it. I wonder what on earth happened to him that he thought it was worth even to RISK throwing away his entire life (and that of a stranger) at age 22?

I think that's exactly how he saw it in his mind.

He'll have plenty of time to think about it. Utah is a death penalty state, but they use it sparingly, and with appeals taking as long as they do, the four or five death row prisoners in the state have all been inside for 30 years or more.

It's something I read up about some years ago when I was digging into the Mark Hofmann bombings. (A fascinating story of murder, forgery, religion and history - I recommend it to anyone who's into true crime.) Hofmann could have got the death penalty but didn't. He's coming up on 40 years in prison this year and will almost certainly never be released.

Having thought some more about his gobsmacking naivety, I suppose if anyone is going to be naive about this it’s someone who comes from a nice law abiding Mormon family.

Maybe he didn’t even grow up watching the cop shows that most of us get our ideas about the police from.

Quite a few people have put Tyler /Lance's text conversation through AI and it says it is AI.

But this depends on which tool you use and what you ask it.

Looking at responses Chat CPT says things like it's too long winded, too dramatic and too fixated on certain points (like the bullets). Grok has given different explanations - some saying similar to ChatGPT and some saying that his stilted conversation owes a lot to autism or problems with reality but not necessarily AI.

I'm at a loss to know what to believe tbh. Its not conclusive either way to me.

I think it depends what else comes out in further explanations.

Yes, that's how the emerging story looks to me. With the political element being hatred against someone because they have views that "my group" hates, but possibly not much underlying that.

Assassination by a weirdo lost in overlapping worlds of make believe. As I said, this is not going to be forming part of the narrative the far Right will be working hard to develop.