Charlie Kirk shot during a debate about trans people

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15086277/Charlie-Kirks-final-words-assassinated-Utah-dead.html

I didn’t agree with many of his political views, but I liked how he interacted with college students who couldn’t answer the question “what is a woman?”.

Yes, this reminds me so much of the Luigi murder.

Jia Tolentino has an excellent New Yorker piece on disturbing responses to it.

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/what-the-murder-of-the-unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-means-to-america&ved=2ahUKEwjzw4D3odGPAxVhSEEAHeL7IAcQFnoECBwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2AT3gKd2DWs95ebtPUsHLr

Or to say it was wrong to pass the civil rights act.

Or spread inflammatory rhetoric about the great replacement theory.

Or to say black women lack the ability to think clearly.

Do you have a source for number 3?

Yes, exactly this.

You’re fine with the first two then? 🤣

Link for the 3rd https://x.com/queenie4rmnola/status/1965960315587416268

Yes, the policies would have existed, but their escalation—and the ability to push them through - would not have been possible without the rise of political extremism. Without influencers like Charlie Kirk normalising extreme, selfish, misogynistic, and racist views to appeal to young men, there is no way Trump could have been elected on such an openly heinous campaign pitch.

Kirk vocally framed positions like opposing universal healthcare, defending abortion bans that force 10-year-old rape victims to give birth, and dismissing the deaths of women compelled to carry nonviable pregnancies as worthy sacrifices for a greater America. This kind of rhetoric shifted the boundaries of what was acceptable in mainstream politics and gave young white men a way to push back against feminism and racial equality, and to justify their prejudices.

Actually, Joe Rogan also endorsed Trump in this election (though he is not an extremist in the same way Kirk was): https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp9z2p3vr48o

He was I think a man who said increasingly controversial things for the headlines and became more and more detached

there was a character on a tv show recently who supposedly ran a very right wing radio show when he was nothing of the sort he just wanted the fame and the listeners

and I see that a bit here constantly spreading misinformation and fanning the flames - tapping into the worldwide general unhappiness at life at the moment

Yes, they’re calling for him to be next on Bluesky too @Butchyrestingface

Except that that’s isn’t what he said. He advocated for the perpetrator to be bailed out so that he could be asked questions. It was in reference to the conspiracy theories circulating about the attack.

Can I ask you a general question, leaving CK aside.

Is it then mainstream among conservative religious Americans to think that...

. A 10yo rape victim should not be allowed an abortion

.being actively gay is like being an alcoholic or drug addict

.the Leviticus law saying men should be stoned to death for having sex with men is 'God's perfect law for sexual matters'

.women on birth control are automatically 'crazy and bitter'

.men should be the leader in marriage or it's 'sexual anarchy'

.women over 30 are understandably past their prime so ofc men don't want them (tho his wife was 32 when they married!

.women shouldn't bother w college unless to get a Mrs degree (ie. To go to get a husband only) Tho his wife married him long after college

If those opinions are mainstream among conservative religious Americans, all I can say is thank God I am British.

Trump was elected because the left worldwide have lost the fucking plot. That’s why people were easy to influence into voting for him.

The inhumanity comes from overwrought conservatives like you, who think they can dehumanise more rational people, merely because we're not weeping about the death of a far-right political extremist who was an opponent of human rights and staunch defender of "the right to bear arms", come what may.

But I think you know that.

https://www.instagram.com/shiftingyourparadigm/reel/DOdRJRtgD1I/

For goodness sake, I loathed Kirk when he was alive. But can you imagine to unbearable pain his wife and toddlers are in rn? They Say him brutally murdered before their eyes. 😢

Eresh isn’t ‘a conservative’ you daft sausage!

He seems to mean specific black women, not in general.

Idiotic to say that Michelle Obama is stupid.

This wasn’t respectful or kind of him either

He seems to mean specific black women, not in general.

🤦‍♀️

He said the deaths of women carrying nonviable pregnancies were worthy sacrifices for a greater America?

Source?

If true, that's vile.

He seems to have started off fairly moderate, and then got more and more influenced by Christian Nationalism. With time, he might have become more moderate again.

Who?

I was referring to Alexandria Ocasio Cortez (female).

Yes, a local tragedy, but not of my doing, and not people I personally know, and I'm certainly not obliged to join in the mourning.

The wider context that might concern me, as a member of the global public, was that of US political extremism, of which Kirk was very much a part, and in that context his murder was not surprising.

And although US political extremism has global ramifications, there's nothing of any consequence I can do about it, so I'm not intending to lose any sleep.

Weird to call Ketanji Brown Jackson & Sheila Jackson Lee stupid as well.

Aha, that makes a LOT of sense.

Is there are trans-military connection? Interesting if so..