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Graham Linehan arrested on arrival at Heathrow Part 4

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IDareSay · 07/09/2025 21:33

These threads have mostly been used to follow the case that has taken place at Westminster Magistrate's Court over the 4th and 5th September, (and will continue on the 29th October), but were created to follow the fallout of Graham's arrest at Heathrow on his return to the UK for this court case last week, and what is allegedly a conspiracy of TRAs to intimidate and harass a number of people, including Graham, with the alleged support of various police services.

He is currently on trial for alleged harassment of a trans identified male and criminal damage to the man's phone. The charges stem from a series of events in October 2024 at Battle of Ideas.

Part 1 here
Part 2 here
Part 3 here
Graham's account of the arrest here
You can support his Substack here
Or buy him a coffee here

Free Speech Union are running a fundraiser to support a claim against the Met in reference to the Heathrow arrest. Just search FSU and Graham Linehan fundraiser and it should be easy to find. At the time of posting it has reached 64% of its stretch target.
The FSU have managed to get the bail condition that @Glinner must not post on X removed, so he is now freely posting on there again.

Most of the mainstream media have reported on the case, but none have covered it as well as Nick Wallis. Follow him on X for live posting from the court again on 29th October.
You can support Nick here (posted Friday 5th September):
"I am deeply grateful to everyone who has seen fit to bung me the cost of a coffee, a pint or even a bloody London pint since I found out I was able to come back today. If you think you can afford to make a small donation, there’s more info here:"
https://store29806256.company.site

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Arrested again! Details on his Substack. This is beyond a joke; 5 armed officers! [[https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/i-just-got-arrested-again ht...

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DeanElderberry · 09/09/2025 08:01

I've been pondering espalier training for a newly planted one.

Igneococcus · 09/09/2025 08:01

ProfoundlyPeculiarAndWeird · 09/09/2025 07:55

Does anyone here have any tips for pruning a gooseberry bush? My efforts over the years have produced such a dense thorny forest that I couldn't access most of this year's bumper crop.

The RHS website has some good guide with diagrams but my plants never look like that in real.
If it hasn't been pruned for a few years I'd start by cutting out anything that's dead or looking really old, that should open it up a bit and make it easier to see what else needs cutting out.

LizzieSiddal · 09/09/2025 08:02

Graham was also on R4 The World Tonight at 10pm.

Unfortunately I couldn’t listen but heard it being trailed in the headlines.

ProfoundlyPeculiarAndWeird · 09/09/2025 08:15

Thanks v much @Igneococcus . I'm looking forward to battling it. I guess about a month from now would be ok

Igneococcus · 09/09/2025 08:20

ProfoundlyPeculiarAndWeird · 09/09/2025 08:15

Thanks v much @Igneococcus . I'm looking forward to battling it. I guess about a month from now would be ok

Gooseberries are usually pruned at the end of winter, but you can also do some summer pruning. You could look for old and dead branches now and then do a proper prune in early spring.

SabrinaThwaite · 09/09/2025 08:45

RedToothBrush · 09/09/2025 07:37

Sam (he/him) AT mushycrouton
The very worst people in society openly support Graham Linehan, a man who was arrested for inciting violence against LGBTQIA+ people and who was on trial this week for assaulting a 17 year old.

He is unworthy of defense and he must be locked up for the safety of teenagers.

I see tweets like this, and don't know where to even begin with them.

I wouldn’t even bother with Sam he/him - ‘mushybrain’ would be a more apt TwiX handle.

RayonSunrise · 09/09/2025 08:50

ProfoundlyPeculiarAndWeird · 09/09/2025 07:52

I didn't see any hostility from the interviewer. Her manner was neutral and professional.

I think we are so familiar with unfair approaches that demonise the GC perspective that we can become a bit hypervigilant, overly disposed to see threat and hostility. Like a kind of mild trauma response to what has been a pretty traumatising decade or so. ~~I know I often feel literally fearful when reading/watching coverage.

It is important to acknowledge fair coverage from the BBC when it happens. So many politically engaged people on so many issues and from so many sides call the BBC's coverage partial that it has almost become a trope of echo-chamber politics, so that the claim can actually undermine the credibility of the people making it.

Of course they have not covered themselves with glory on the trans issue, but they are inching forward. I think the main problem with their news in general is not partiality but a movement away from hard news, basic reporting, expensive investigation, etc, in favour of a cheaper, audience-flattering sofa-show 'news'

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It’s also worth bearing in mind that since this whole shitshow gained momentum (thanks to the PP who linked to Jane Claire Jones’ fabulous blog - I’ve just re-read her classic “Annals of the TERF Wars” from 2018, which traces the whole mad trajectory of extreme trans “rights” from pre-2013), there has been a small group of people who have latched onto being “GC” not because they give a shit about women, but because this whole sorry issue is a wonderful ammo in their endless war against the BBC, UK government/courts/institutions, etc.

Some people have always seen the Beeb as evil, some have been brought round to that way of thinking because of its institutional capture, and some of us think it’s still salvageable (along with all our other institutions). Where you sit on that spectrum can really influence who you perceive a reporter asking questions.

SabrinaThwaite · 09/09/2025 09:05

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Graham Linehan arrested on arrival at Heathrow Part 4
ThatCyanCat · 09/09/2025 09:10

2021x · 08/09/2025 23:40

I agree with you. I think for me there was a point in time where I was so worried I would be on the wrong side of history, or would think I sounded like my parents when they were talking about gay rights.

I had to think about this alot i.e. why I care so much. I have come to the conclusion that Trans-rights are acutally the opposite of Gay rights but they use the same slogans.

Gay people really were fighting to just be themselves. No-one choses to be gay especially with the social and legal rammifications. Also men haven't really had a "feministic" movement i.e expanded the traditional roles of men in the same way that women have. So "being their authentic self" really means something to a gay man and reminds them that they (like women) will always have extra battle for acceptance.

Trans people want/need the opposite. They actually don't want to be themselves because they find themselves repulsive or they don't align with their rigid expectations of that gender expression. I understand this is very mentially painful for them. But they are still using the slogan "being my authentic self" which is obviously disingenous but appeals to the vulnerablilty of gay men.

I postulate that if trans-people campaigned for seperate gender neutral spaces that they would have had a lot of support from women, who know what it is like to undress in an unsafe space. I suspect this would have eventually become the norm.

What my point is, is the difference is that the trans-movement is not being conducted for a genuine need. This is what people are silently revolting against and its causing harm to the people who do need accomodations , and are taking the gay community with them.

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Gay people simply wanted the same rights as everyone else, to marry and form consensual adult relationships. Being gay affected nobody else and nobody else even had to know about it. It was wholly innate and did not require any change of environment. They were also fine for religious institutions not to offer same sex marriage if it was against their beliefs; they just asked to be able to marry legally and create new additional spaces for that. As the saying went, if you aren't gay, gay marriage won't affect you.

TRAs are demanding more rights than everyone else, and to take rights from others. They want to use spaces for the sex they are not and to deny women the right to any single sex spaces anywhere for any reason. They want to compel belief and speech, impose Newspeak and change how everyone else is defined. They want it to be illegal to have any spaces that don't conform to their religious belief that men can be women. Unlike gay people, they are demanding that the external world around them change to reflect their self image. And the whole thing is based on an absolute falsehood that nobody actually believes.

In a way, it's the opposite of the gay rights movement.

RayonSunrise · 09/09/2025 09:10

His ability to be genuinely funny is never dimmed, even when he’s being hounded by maniacs.

Datun · 09/09/2025 09:13

SabrinaThwaite · 09/09/2025 09:05

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Ha! Maybe that's where he gets his sense of humour 😁

NewlyBouffant · 09/09/2025 09:16

NeverOneBiscuit · 08/09/2025 23:16

Did anyone notice the jars of Marmite recently with a rainbow sticker over the lid & jar?

It was something to do with Elton John & his fundraising, which I’d normally be supportive of. But the rainbow was just an immediate turn off. In both the supermarkets where I saw it on sale it was the only set of jars left, all the other trays around it were empty.

My DD is taking it to uni as she says "no one will steal the gay marmite."

StripyShirt · 09/09/2025 09:22

DeanElderberry · 09/09/2025 06:51

Gooseberry is an underrated fruit these days and would taste good with blackberry.

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Be aware that these are toxic for dogs

Abhannmor · 09/09/2025 09:32

2021x · 08/09/2025 23:40

I agree with you. I think for me there was a point in time where I was so worried I would be on the wrong side of history, or would think I sounded like my parents when they were talking about gay rights.

I had to think about this alot i.e. why I care so much. I have come to the conclusion that Trans-rights are acutally the opposite of Gay rights but they use the same slogans.

Gay people really were fighting to just be themselves. No-one choses to be gay especially with the social and legal rammifications. Also men haven't really had a "feministic" movement i.e expanded the traditional roles of men in the same way that women have. So "being their authentic self" really means something to a gay man and reminds them that they (like women) will always have extra battle for acceptance.

Trans people want/need the opposite. They actually don't want to be themselves because they find themselves repulsive or they don't align with their rigid expectations of that gender expression. I understand this is very mentially painful for them. But they are still using the slogan "being my authentic self" which is obviously disingenous but appeals to the vulnerablilty of gay men.

I postulate that if trans-people campaigned for seperate gender neutral spaces that they would have had a lot of support from women, who know what it is like to undress in an unsafe space. I suspect this would have eventually become the norm.

What my point is, is the difference is that the trans-movement is not being conducted for a genuine need. This is what people are silently revolting against and its causing harm to the people who do need accomodations , and are taking the gay community with them.

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Thank you that is a good and very perceptive post .

ErrolTheDinosaur · 09/09/2025 09:33

Presumably the person who made the name slipup had mentally filed Glinner in a ‘men with initials GL’ mental category. I mean can’t everyone see how easy it’d be to therefore confuse him with a sporting commentator who gets mocked on Radio4 comedy shows for his inability to mention the problem of males in women’s sports? Grin

NebulousDog · 09/09/2025 09:43

NeverOneBiscuit · 08/09/2025 23:16

Did anyone notice the jars of Marmite recently with a rainbow sticker over the lid & jar?

It was something to do with Elton John & his fundraising, which I’d normally be supportive of. But the rainbow was just an immediate turn off. In both the supermarkets where I saw it on sale it was the only set of jars left, all the other trays around it were empty.

Ocado sold me one of those jars! I’ve also packed it for DD to take to Uni.

I was surprised to see Glinners interview (video and text) was still quite prominent on my BBC News app this morning.

Is Josh Parry on his holibobs? I’ve not seen any drag queen articles for at least a week.

INeedAPensieve · 09/09/2025 09:55

NebulousDog · 09/09/2025 09:43

Ocado sold me one of those jars! I’ve also packed it for DD to take to Uni.

I was surprised to see Glinners interview (video and text) was still quite prominent on my BBC News app this morning.

Is Josh Parry on his holibobs? I’ve not seen any drag queen articles for at least a week.

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The drag queen stories will start ramping up again especially as Strictly is about to start soon.

Oh I do hope they don't call the drag queen taking part she/her. It's such an insult to women. I'm kind of ambivalent about drag shows; it's got its place in adult clubs and gay bars, it's not great when they use highly sexualised names or offensive names taking the piss out of women, but I always liked lily savage. But then he never pretended to be anything other than a man dressing up.

RedToothBrush · 09/09/2025 10:16

Well so far this morning on BlueSky Lynsay has:
Quoted Catherine Larkman saying 'all i was doing was shortening a name. Its like someone calling me Cath' and said she knew exactly what she was doing and compared it to abbreviating Pakistani and said that if South Wales Police don't prosecute, he will sue them for malfeasance in a public offence and Larkman will be pursued privately.

Yesterday he asked for a contact for Dr Upton as the NHS solictor is refusing to engage with enquiries for this. (Remind me why was the case moved to Dundee)

This story and its related links isn't going to go away any time soon then.

NebulousSadTimes · 09/09/2025 10:19

Igneococcus · 09/09/2025 07:54

Gooseberries are the best, totally worth the vicious stings you get when picking. I wonder why nobody has managed to breed a thornless variety yet. Got loads in the freezer.

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I was perusing the J Parker catalogue last night and noticed they have thornless gooseberries.

https://www.jparkers.co.uk/ribes-gooseberry-thornless-collection/

As for pruning, I go for the usual dead stuff and try for a goblet shape.

NebulousSadTimes · 09/09/2025 10:21

JustAnotherFunday · 08/09/2025 23:08

I once got 'trouble' for declining a rainbow coffee. They didn't ask. I have supported gay rights for a long time but find coloured food nauseating. They said "you are the only one who's complained!"

Shades of the Post Office/Horizon tactics.

SabrinaThwaite · 09/09/2025 10:28

borntobequiet · 09/09/2025 06:22

I think - though I could be mistaken - that Lucy Manning is generally OK on this.
But, as others have be said, she has to be impartial.

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Lucy Manning is the woman that had to fight for two years to get the police to take action against the man who made hundreds of obscene phone calls to her.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgwp4059xgo.amp

If I were her I’d be furious that someone could get Glinner arrested so easily on the basis of three tweets.

Lucy Manning, a woman in a pink blouse with brown hair, stands in front of a building looking at the camera. There is a sign that says "New Scotland Yard".

Lucy Manning: A sexually obscene phone call - and my two-year ordeal getting police to act - BBC News

BBC correspondent Lucy Manning describes having to fight at every moment to keep her case on track.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgwp4059xgo.amp

SabrinaThwaite · 09/09/2025 10:32

@RedToothBrush Lynsay Watson is currently spewing so much bile I’m surprised Lynsay’s liver hasn’t exploded.

RedToothBrush · 09/09/2025 10:42

SabrinaThwaite · 09/09/2025 10:32

@RedToothBrush Lynsay Watson is currently spewing so much bile I’m surprised Lynsay’s liver hasn’t exploded.

I'm sure NHS Fife will be delighted if Lynsay intervenes.

RayonSunrise · 09/09/2025 10:55

I would certainly be delighted if Lynsay intervenes. 🍿

RedToothBrush · 09/09/2025 11:07

Helen Joyce AT HJoyceGender
A little update on something that has been going on for me behind the scenes now for nearly a year, which I've put in front of the paywall. I'll be writing more about this for the Critic.

https://www.thehelenjoyce.com/p/being-targeted-by-lynsay-watson

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