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Serious life ending Sexual assault on a stroke ward

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mrshoho · 04/09/2025 09:44

Stroke 'played no part' in Blackpool hospital patient's death - BBC News https://share.google/E1kG2EjcGHJWiPXvA

Omfg. This is just horrendous. This poor woman. Bled to death on a stroke ward following a sexual assault on the ward. What on earth?

Valerie Kneale, with shoulder-length grey curly hair, wears a pink, lilac and green floral blouse as she is photographed in a garden. She is standing in front of a pebble-dashed house with a white plastic door and windows.

Stroke 'played no part' in Blackpool hospital patient's death

Valerie Kneale's inquest is told she died because of a "forcible sexual assault" while in hospital.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy9neq9e7qqo

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whatwouldafeministdo · 04/09/2025 10:52

I think there's a very toxic culture in the NHS which results both in understaffing, cover up of understaffing and a climate of fear where staff feel scared to report any problems or wrongdoing. With a very few bullies getting very rich. It needs total reform.

user2848502016 · 04/09/2025 10:55

How absolutely horrific, devastating for her family

TonTonMacoute · 04/09/2025 11:00

So, let me get this straight, because I'm really struggling here, a violent rapist and sexual abuser can gain access to vulnerable patients in hospital - more than likely works at the hospital - and no one can be arsed to find out who did it!?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 04/09/2025 11:01

TonTonMacoute · 04/09/2025 11:00

So, let me get this straight, because I'm really struggling here, a violent rapist and sexual abuser can gain access to vulnerable patients in hospital - more than likely works at the hospital - and no one can be arsed to find out who did it!?

Sums it up doesn't it.

ErrolTheDragon · 04/09/2025 11:03

The whole thing - the fact the assault could occur, the fact that her death wasn’t immediately investigated due to the blood etc …. There are no words adequate to describe it.AngrySad

TheQuirkyMaker · 04/09/2025 11:03

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 04/09/2025 09:55

Jesus christ.
It reads as though staff actively tried to cover up what had happened. That surely cant be the case but it reads like they closed ranks.

Horrific, but it is probably an example of Halon's razor. "Never ascribe to malice what can be explained through incompetence". I've worked in both general and psychiatric hospitals, and I believe the staff would be happy to dob each other in if they were clever enough to spot malpractice.

HarrietBond · 04/09/2025 11:03

And this happened seven years ago so they may well have been doing this to other patients ever since, with no opportunity taken back in 2018 to stop them.

viques · 04/09/2025 11:03

If you read the article there are links to previous “incidents” on this ward, with the same ward manager involved, and found guilty. Clearly there has been longstanding appalling practice going on, whether this was a historic cover up by management or something that slipped past the safeguarding process needs to be investigated.

Very telling that previous incidents were reported by a student attached to the ward who was brave enough, and morally strong enough, to whistleblow. I hope that the student was supported and has stayed on their course, but I suspect that they will be viewed with suspicion by many HCP and could well have found the situation untenable.

Having followed the Fife case it is clear that some hospital managers are not fit for purpose, so nothing is off the books as far as mismanagement is concerned.

KeepTalkingBeth · 04/09/2025 11:03

TonTonMacoute · 04/09/2025 11:00

So, let me get this straight, because I'm really struggling here, a violent rapist and sexual abuser can gain access to vulnerable patients in hospital - more than likely works at the hospital - and no one can be arsed to find out who did it!?

Yeah

And nobody saw anything or noticed anything unusual

This is unlikely to have been the first or the last offence for the rapist. I reckon the police could have looked harder.

tommyhoundmum · 04/09/2025 11:04

mrshoho · 04/09/2025 10:04

This beautiful woman, Valerie Kneale, so loved by her family who barely left her side while she was in that hospital. I will be writing to Wes Streeting. This shows just how unsafe hospitals are in this day and age. With all our cctv, security and monitoring. Surely the hospital should investigate all staff who had access in the short period. Everyone who had access to the ward should be investigated. If someone could do such a horrific assault they have probably previously done it and will go on doing it.

If you do write to Wes Streeting go through your local MP as you are more likely to get a considered response that way.

Thisweeksdrama · 04/09/2025 11:05

Jeez, this is absolutely appalling, poor woman. But also just incredibly weird that this is only coming to light now.

MyrtleLion · 04/09/2025 11:05

And I just know that TRAs will use this case to say that women are assaulted by men who don’t identify as women, so men who do so identify are not a danger.

Mustbethat · 04/09/2025 11:05

TonTonMacoute · 04/09/2025 11:00

So, let me get this straight, because I'm really struggling here, a violent rapist and sexual abuser can gain access to vulnerable patients in hospital - more than likely works at the hospital - and no one can be arsed to find out who did it!?

I don’t think it’s that simple. The police have said they’ve exhausted every line of enquiry- the delay in discovering the death wasn’t due to the stroke, which meant the body won’t have been forensically preserved etc, will mean much of the evidence was lost.

not so much can’t be arsed but a series of failures have led to not being able to find out who did it.

sometimes if the evidence isn’t there it isn’t there. My neighbour is a csi and I know how frustrated they get when they’ve spent weeks/months, even years on a case to come up blank. Only for social media to then come up with “oh they just couldn’t be arsed”.

Keepingittogetherstepbystep · 04/09/2025 11:09

This is the same hospital happening at the same time.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-67706765

My dad was a patient there in 2010, when we made enquires as to how he was doing we were told his lung operation had gone well. Oh, well that's odd since he's there for heart bypass. He was also sent home with somebody else's meds.

Mustbethat · 04/09/2025 11:10

Thisweeksdrama · 04/09/2025 11:05

Jeez, this is absolutely appalling, poor woman. But also just incredibly weird that this is only coming to light now.

not weird. Chances are an active ongoing investigation details can’t be published. If they had have found a suspect they need to be really careful the case isn’t prejudiced by too much information being published.

people always jump to “the police didn’t do nowt” when they can’t publish every minute action. To start a lot of investigative tactics are not public so the criminals aren’t given a masterclass in the daily mail on how to avoid detection.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 04/09/2025 11:11

There's a massive history of abuse and neglect at this hospital. Two nurses jailed for abusing patients on this ward. They and others convicted of stealing drugs from the hospital.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-67706765

A male healthcare professional was arrested on suspicion of rape, murder and sexual assault but subsequently released and no charges ever laid.

https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/blackpool-stroke-patient-75-died-20571934

Don't suppose the NHS have taken any action against senior staff overseeing this shocking situation. They never seem to, Suggests yet another NHS cover up.

Catherine Hudson and Charlotte Wilmot

Blackpool nurse and colleague jailed over drugging patients

Catherine Hudson, 54, and Charlotte Wilmot, 48, conspired to unlawfully drug a patient at a hospital.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-67706765

MadameCholetsDirtySecret · 04/09/2025 11:14

This screams of coverup. Locard’s principle would suggest that the perpetrator would have left some physical evidence after such a horrific attack and likely to have been blood spattered afterwards, but no evidence or any witnesses were found. Do they think we are stupid?

Dancingsquirrels · 04/09/2025 11:14

This happened in 2018. Why did the inquest only happen now? What potential harm has come to patients since 2018?

Rickyrainfrogcroaks · 04/09/2025 11:18

That could any of us ,any of your mum's or daughters
I can't believe they could catch the killer ,was there no DNA or cctv

Rickyrainfrogcroaks · 04/09/2025 11:19

Could not

Thisweeksdrama · 04/09/2025 11:19

Mustbethat · 04/09/2025 11:10

not weird. Chances are an active ongoing investigation details can’t be published. If they had have found a suspect they need to be really careful the case isn’t prejudiced by too much information being published.

people always jump to “the police didn’t do nowt” when they can’t publish every minute action. To start a lot of investigative tactics are not public so the criminals aren’t given a masterclass in the daily mail on how to avoid detection.

Right - that makes sense. Although I wasn't really suggesting that police were sitting on their laurels, just surprised I've read nothing at all about this case until now.

TonTonMacoute · 04/09/2025 11:19

Mustbethat · 04/09/2025 11:05

I don’t think it’s that simple. The police have said they’ve exhausted every line of enquiry- the delay in discovering the death wasn’t due to the stroke, which meant the body won’t have been forensically preserved etc, will mean much of the evidence was lost.

not so much can’t be arsed but a series of failures have led to not being able to find out who did it.

sometimes if the evidence isn’t there it isn’t there. My neighbour is a csi and I know how frustrated they get when they’ve spent weeks/months, even years on a case to come up blank. Only for social media to then come up with “oh they just couldn’t be arsed”.

I wasn't blaming the police.

Rickyrainfrogcroaks · 04/09/2025 11:19

Meanwhile the police arrest people for comments on Facebook
Fucking disgrace this government

Mustbethat · 04/09/2025 11:20

MadameCholetsDirtySecret · 04/09/2025 11:14

This screams of coverup. Locard’s principle would suggest that the perpetrator would have left some physical evidence after such a horrific attack and likely to have been blood spattered afterwards, but no evidence or any witnesses were found. Do they think we are stupid?

Why would they be blood spattered? The bbc report/PM stated the blood loss happened after death.

There may well be physical evidence recovered. But until it can be matched to an individual it sits in evidence.

Miraclesforme · 04/09/2025 11:21

That is horrific, that poor lady

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