Graham Linehan arrested on arrival at Heathrow Part 2

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First thread here

Started thread 2 as this seems destined to run for some time...

Exactly, how would they possibly be able to maintain their moral high ground if they reported that Brooks tweeted that he wished PP had had acid thrown in her face instead of tomato soup? How these ‘journalists’ square their deliberate avoidance of salient facts is beyond me.

I remember donkeys years ago having a private conversation on here about the dynamics of the older TRAs and the younger TRAs and being influenced online. I recall saying something along the lines about the victim becoming the abuser. The other poster was utterly horrified at the concept but I think had a bit of a penny drop moment.

I definitely think this case is doing a lot to demonstrate the issue.

It's really depressing to see playing out so clearly.

The blatant bias - that they will loftily and smugly poo--poo if you complain about it - is absolutely outrageous.

And there's this from the Telegraph:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/7cafda16a0db4b21

Archive version: https://archive.ph/dGcL6

I'm somewhat open minded as to whether Linehan has acted unlawfully tbh.

I think this is why not everyone likes him in GC circles. He has sailed close to the wind. But his overall point isn't wrong and he has been put under extraordinary levels of pressure. The normal challenges to deal with this clearly haven't worked.

If he is found guilty it will because of a failure of the system to deal with the abusive militants.

It is a clear case of unequal treatment however you cut it.

We have a young man freely admitting to various things which he probably should be charged with. And yet nothing has been done and some of the press are completely ignoring these pretty significant admissions.

The justice system has to treat everyone equally or it basically falls on its arse.

We have a massive problem here. This case is just one that represents it and it plays directly into the hands of politicians jumping on the idea of two tier policing.

It's really hard to argue they aren't wrong in the face of cases like this.

I agree with you RedToothBruth. Graham is quick to anger and did exactly what they hoped. It doesn't alter the fact he's fundamentally right and the real issue is the difference in how he's been treated compared to these deranged men.

To be fair it's not always the parent's fault. Some of them are terrified into affirming, and some are TRAs, but not all.

We've got a number of parents who's children have fallen down the trans rabbit hole on this board who have done everything they can to help their children avoid the gender cult. You can feel the worry and pain come through when they post about their experiences. Some of their children have now estranged themselves from their parents because they refused to affirm without question.

Couldn't agree more. The real story here is the fundamental bias in the system.

Agree, while there are cases of abject parental failure, often these parents are in an absolutely nightmarish 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' position.

What's more, the police can complain all they like about it being politicians fault.

Yet it's them not the politicians who have failed to make arrests for threats of violence by tras.

There is a photo of our friend here holding a sign saying "decapitate terfs" FGS.

A lot of this is NOT a politician issue. This is most definitely a police one.

Many, many thanks to @SabrinaThwaite for providing the court hearings.

Have only just had time to come on the thread so have sort of speed read.

For anyone who has stuck with it, are you able to stand back and try and see how those not as informed as FWRers will understand this witness statement.

Will the be kind mentality still hold sway.

ie "famous" media person picks on young muddled person.

Ever since the infamous SJB ruling that a statement of voilence against women was okay as it was just for publicity, have my worries about magistrates.

And in response to a post much earlier in the day, I am not sure that on a public level despite media coverage, that that many people are interested (or understand the issue as really being about women's rights).

For instance yesterday YouGov Chat obviously hoping to capitalise on the arrest of Glinner ran a short survey on free speech etc..

Most reponses were about flags, etc..

Oh I missed this bit!

The teenage trans activist accusing Father Ted co-creator Graham Linehan of harassing her threatened legal action against police unless her allegations were pursued, a court heard today.

Sophia Brooks said she would launch a judicial review after officers originally said they would not follow up her complaint against the Irish comedy writer, Westminster Magistrates' Court was told.

So it isn't the politicians who are making the police do stupid things, it is people who have enough status to threaten judicial review, that the police act for.

That's a bit troubling.

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15061189/graham-linehan-trial-harassment-free-speech-live-updates.html

I'm afraid that in Scotland the whole problem with giving such leeway to under 25s results in such things as rape becoming essentially decriminalised for them.

I think that yes, your brain isn't fully "cooked" until you are mid 20s, but also that doesn't absolve anyone of responsibility. I think the age of criminal liability is something like 12 or 13 isn't it?

I was taught right from wrong from a very young age, I have made mistakes of course because I'm human and was young and silly once (now I'm old and still a bit silly so still make loads of mistakes), but I have never been in trouble with the law, or done anything like these young trans identified men are doing. I would have known even as a teenager that to do anything like that would be very, very wrong!

To be honest I'm not sure that Glinner is going to come across brilliantly- the prosecution will have plenty of material to work with with his tweets. And the Guardian will probably focus on those. It's a story which can very much be spun either way. But SV is doing a fantastic job.

Honestly the police were cowards here.

Do you think it would get anywhere based on today's testimony?!

It's shit policing on many many levels.

Yes this!

See my above post about injustice.

It totally undermines his 'little old me with my hardly any followers can't possibly be a threat like Glinner' line that he used today, doesn't it.

Yes was just going to edit having read the last two pages. Still, he must be regretting many many of his choices of words. I wonder how he will approach it- I think at this point he might own that and point out that the women he was trying to defend behaved pretty impeccably, and he was wrong to keep losing his shit.

To add: the cumulative effect of witnessing and experiencing abusive behaviour from many different TRAs is undeniable. But that's not how courts work, and I'm not convinced that it won't look a bit David and Goliath to those who haven't been paying attention.

a) Tarquin is not the 'decapitate terfs' person

b) Sarah Vine pretty much demolished the 'criminal damage to the phone' part of the charge

c) so long as Glinner stays calm, the footage of Tarquin interacting with people like Maria and Kate is damning

d) Confirmation in court that Alex Horwood is pulling the strings is worth all of it.

I’m also open minded. It is however clear that tarquin was going round harassing women intentionally at the conference. I haven’t heard what actually happened in the supposed assault yet. Was it at his 3rd approach to glinner when he supposedly had his phone right in glinner’s face?

Footage of SB leaving the court surrounded by masked men, oh and Hayden running interefernce for an added bonus.

https://x.com/i/status/1963637035173847420

It does seem that Sarah Vine has done her homework (or some poor underling).

I hope Glinner stays calm, they'll try to rile him, he needs to take deep breathes. If you read this Graham don't let them wind you up.