Posting upton’s old photos and name on twitter

[Biggadyboom]

Look I’ve been in these discussions since before this forum existed. You don’t need to break it down for me. I peaked in 2018.

But the endless sharing of upton’s name accompanied by photos and horrible comments about him and his wife is not nice. It is totally is transphobia. It’s horrible.

I could kind of understand the point of it, if it was just the name being shared.

But equally the court has ruled that Upton has a right to privacy. I thought it was all about respecting court’s rulings?

but the sharing of private photos (presumably grabbed from social media) and especially their wedding photo with insults to both of them and speculation about their marriage is awful and will not help their be a resolution to this debate. It polarises it even more and is transphobia.

fair enough, don’t let Upton change the rules of the country and workplace based on personal beliefs . But that doesn’t involve posting personal information and photos , insults and horrible speculation.

or are we just going low now?

Why do women have to "tell"?

Men are not without agency.
Individual men can make their own choices and be judged on their own actions.

That was a point you made multiple times was it nor?

All (nice or not) males who know they are male (who are trans IDing or not ) can stay out of WSSS.

All (nice or not) males who dont know if they are male (who are trans IDing or not ) can check for a penis if they find that they have a penis they can stay out of WSSS.

All (nice or not) males who dont know if they are male (who are trans IDing or not ) who have checked and found that they had a penis but no longer have a penis can stay out of WSSS.

All (nice or not) males who dont know if they are male (who are trans IDing or not ) who have checked and are still not sure can seek medical assisstance for verification and can stay out of WSSS.

All (nice or not) people who dont know which sex they are (who are trans IDing or not ) who have checked and are still not sure can seek medical assisstance for verification and can stay out of WSSS.

Sorted no need for women to do anything.

Each man takes responsiblity for his choice and his actions.

Women (and men) can note that males choosing to use WSSS are likely to be dangerous as these men have proven that they think the social rules and laws should not apply to them.

Sall Grover, a far right grifter?

Fuck's sake, they're not even trying any more. At least one of them last night mentioned some decent vintage TV drama. Y'know, for such noble anti-fascist warriors, they aren't half keen to turn the Left into a sexist, classist, authoritarian laughing stock.

"Women (and men) can note that males choosing to use WSSS are likely to be dangerous as these men have proven that they think the social rules and laws should not apply to them."

Indeed.

When a male person enters a female single sex space knowing that the law has been changed to exclude him, even if he doesn't want to believe that it has, instead of finding an alternative solution for their needs, it is a power display.

It is a power display, because that male person knows that they should not be in that place but will enter regardless. Maybe because they feel entitled, or they want to intimidate, or they want to feed a fetish, or they want to abuse / assault or rape, or they are doing it for activism. There are numerous reasons. But they all come from a position of it being a power show.

There was a poster only last week, I think from Norway, who repeatedly would not quote either. This guy showed up straight after that. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same poster.

Forget the fake concern—it’s as poor as your attempt at impersonating an Australian.
You don’t sound like someone who speaks for women. You sound like someone who believes themselves anointed to speak over us.
That someone is a man.
No matter how much you try to dress it up, it shows every time. When you look in the mirror, you’ll still always see a man. That won’t change, and deep down, you know we can see right through it.
And you hate us for it—everything you post here is just thinly veiled goading, hiding a deep-seated resentment for something you’ll never truly have.

There's nothing more terrifying to a transcel than a woman who tells them 'no'.

Yeah, and even if the encounter is only online, there's a very real danger they'll just fucking bore you to death. Maybe instead of decapitation and lynching, they should threaten us with having to listen to some of their Internet windbags.

We both know the poster will not be able to post actual evidence of a tweet.

Rather will try mudsling and fall back on personal abuse.

All the while missing the point that the thread is about a medical doctor whos actions hepled highlight the Systemic Failings and general problems that arise when an NHS Trust adopted an #NoDebate #AcceptanceWithoutException policy.

This resulted in the GMC having to recognise a systemic flaw with a serious potential of harm if it fails to carry out its legal duty.

Its forced the Nursing Unions to remember they are unions

It involved the EHRC
https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/media-centre/news/equality-regulator-engages-scottish-government-and-nhs-fife-regarding-staff

Equality regulator engages Scottish Government and NHS Fife regarding staff access to single sex facilities

Ans the Information Commissioner

https://www.foi.scot/new-questions-over-nhs-fife-compliance

New Questions over NHS Fife Compliance
18 July 2025
On 18 July 2025, NHS Fife released a media statement that referenced the Commissioner's Decision 133/2025. In response, Scottish Information Commissioner, David Hamilton said,

“The petulant tone of NHS Fife’s latest statement is quite remarkable but it is the contents that concern me most. They have now cast doubt upon the assurances they gave me regarding compliance with my Decision Notice. I will investigate further and if the Authority has not indeed fully complied with my Decision then I may report the matter to the Court of Session as a contempt of court.”

The "woken" nothing to see here Norway is more progressive one!

Well, I guess we better buckle up because there is another court case potentially happening from Sandie.

https://x.com/SexMattersOrg/status/1963179245380735367

@MissScarletInTheBallroom

I am not on Twitter because I got tired of trans identifying men sending me pictures of their penis, apparently in an attempt to convince me that I was wrong about them not being real women.

I've never had that because from the very beginning of my account I limited DMs to people I follow and restrict whose posts I get notified about. Believe me, it makes all the difference. It's made being on there workable and worthwhile.

Why shouldn't she be able to win her case, which is based on the principle that Australian women should be allowed to exist in a way that doesn't include or revolve around Mr Tickle?

I seem to recall that Mr Tickle was the absolute pest of a Mr Man who didn't understand consent or boundaries either, so the moniker is very apt.

Firstly whether you can accurately detect sex (& you can't) isn't the point.

Again, if only somebody had told the suffragettes that sex can't be detected.

Thirdly, the time is upon us where puberty blockers hormones & surgery will render natural puberty null & void. How will you tell then?

I completely agree that at the point when we become Cybermen/Daleks or evolve into another species, none of this will be relevant.

Tickle actually tracked Sal Grover to her home address and demanded that she let him onto the app.

That is very much intimidation.

I haven’t rtwt, but many thanks to the op for highlighting that pre transition photos of Dr Upton were on twitter and the name to look for.

I have to say it’s changed my opinion of the case slightly. Having previously only seen photos of ‘Beth’ Upton, carefully angled and swathed with genteel, fluffy scarves I’d assumed that the person involved was particularly small and slight, so perhaps physically scared to use the men’s changing rooms as they should.

Having now seen photos of six foot rugby playing, beer drinking ‘Theo’ Upton I now have no sympathy whatsoever for them, as they were clearly pretty used to changing amongst their rugby playing friends and of a physique to be both able to defend themselves and intimidating to women.

@Howseitgoin Thirdly, the time is upon us where puberty blockers hormones & surgery will render natural puberty null & void. How will you tell then?

Including the accelerated brain development which is an aspect of natural puberty that can't be replicated except via puberty? Why would anyone want to drug a child in a way that will retard their body and their mind into the years where they are legally adult?

Well that's the question, isn't it. Who benefits from children being kept in a state of both physical and mental childhood for much longer than is natural, potentially for good, while having them be legally considered adults?

Who?

I simply can't imagine.

So your two options are either assume some cross over between Twitter and MN, and come here to criticise people for posts on there, or to speak up directly on the relevant posts on Twitter, @Biggadyboom. I fail to see why the latter is not the better option.

Frankly, I have very little sympathy for Upton. And outside of witness protection schemes, I don’t see why we should be forced to completely deny a person’s past history. Upton was born, and remains male. He can change his name and wear what he chooses, but he cannot compel me to forget he was Theo Upton and is male.

Sheer bloody-mindedness of course. How typical. 🙄

The quote function maintains a link to the original post.

If the original post is deleted or taken down then the quote will be removed as well.

If you copy / paste the relevant parts of the original post into your message then they are no longer linked to the original post and will remain if it is deleted.

Yes.

I find that it is useful to C&P and quote in any case. Firstly if a post is bound to be deleted, it pays to keep the substance of your post coherent. But also, even if you quote it is useful to pull out a specific part if you are addressing that part rather than a general answer.

I have seen many others do it, so it seems to be a good idea.

The quote function maintains a link to the original post.

See I can also clip a quote and then say unkind things to you which skews (somewhat anyway) the readers understanding.

The quote function was explained and requested numerous times

The quote function does clear up some fuckwittery attempts.

Particularly the the habit being to post entire posts including the quotes all the way back to the first post being responded to. With confusing formatting. So you could end up with a post that had 5 levels of replies in and you had no fucking idea who each reply was from or to because sometimes the reply thread had been going back to a post 10 pages before.

All clipped and easily able to be contorted.

And yes, it was mentioned and requested. But apparently the sneering was too important to continue with no intention to take in what posters were pointing out.

Ideally both sides would be civil, but in practice that rarely happens. What sort of discussion are you looking for?