Charity rejects disabled child for mother's GC views

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Pretty shocking but it seems they think they're right.

And yet you are still saying children should be lied to about the sex of other children to entrench this gendered system further in their minds.

Not because skeptics told me so, but because the reported case and what the politician presented have many of the same facts. When pushed to answer some of the questions about what exactly occurred, the politician could not answer them despite it not revealing anything additional about the victim. She obviously made it up to make a point. People do it all the time.

Never said that. I said children shoukd be told the sex of other people. If you are going to start lying, I will stop talking to you. Are you going to start lying? Yes or no?

Is this "facts align" similar to how the 8 year old has an abusive mum and only met and been influenced by family?

It seems from your responses that you're quite young, and not a parent, or familiar with being in a position of responsibility for younger people. This kind of petty game playing isnt helpful for anyone.

Christ on a bike! you have literally no idea about how ROGD has brought up his son and what he's been through and yet here you are resorting to personal attacks on him to make a point

you agree that ppl can't change sex and that children should be told the correct sex of ppl they're with even if they "identify" differently - I believe that makes you in the eyes of the TRA a big old transphobic bigot

@Ihavetoask

Just reposting this for you, since you obviously missed it when I posted it last night.

How many rapes are reported on NHS properties each year?

How did you source the number?

Can you please quote where you said this about the child who applied to the camp?

If you said this why are you supporting the Charity position of abusing a child for being allowed to correctly sex other people?

Baroness Nicholson isn't a 'politician', do you even understand what the House of Lords is?

I've posted up thread the WRN report on rapes and sexual assaults in hospitals, over 2000 reported rapes on hospital property - what are the chances that some factors (which? You haven't said) are common between different assaults?

You should probably be careful in libelling a Member of the House of Lords btw, and saying 'she obviously made it up' about a statement she made to the House is libel.

I've interacted with Baroness Nicholson. She asked for evidence of what I was contacting her about, she didn't just take my word for it.

From her wiki:

Emma Harriet Nicholson, Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne is a British politician, who has been a life peer since 1997. She was elected as the Conservative Member of Parliament for Torridge and West Devon in 1987, before switching to the Liberal Democrats in 1995.

You know you'll pull a.muscle if you reaching like that.

Our visitors Mask has slipped hasn't it

What can one expect when one takes a position and then trys to argue that one has not taken that position or typed the things one typed

Same old same old when all else fails pulling out the personal attack and DARVO

Some time ago. Their view of safeguarding has been clear from the start.

Some people just shouldn't be taken seriously.

The problem is these sorts of people find themselves in jobs where safeguarding matters, like children’s charities, residential care, NHS wards, girl guides and so on, then we wonder why we have ongoing institutional CSA.

People like this are also exactly the same as those who failed to respond to the thousands of girls suffering rape, torture and horrific abuse at the hands of grooming gangs by placing ideology and sacred castes above the lives of children.

Ihavetoask · Today 07:46

Yes because all the facts align except for the ones the politician fabricated to make her point.

You may be best to ask that MN delete that libellous post. You are saying that the Baroness has perjured herself in the HoL.

Where's the reach? You literally said she made it up, that's libel.

I do like it when visitors cite Wikipedia as a source. She was a politician as a job, nearly 30 years ago. Nearly 30 years ago I was a student, I'm not now though.

Children, by and large, don't need to be told the sex of people. They can see for themselves. Studies show even very young babies can tell the difference between male and female faces.

I reported the libellous posts to MNHQ. This is what they said:

We're taking a look now and will remove anything found to break our Talk guidelines.

However for a libel report to be actioned, it would need to come from the person or organisation itself - rather than an individual.

I thought they could be held responsible as the libel is on their website, but they don't seem to be bothered by it.

Nope its i think like trying to sue the paper supplier for what the newspaper publisher did. Its why forums are sometimes described as town squares.
if MN took over editorial control which is not happening there could be a case. And in many situations MN rules would follow the publish and be dammed theory to stop the responsibility falling back on MN to monitor and make a judgement call.

People ahould remember that MN must and will supply all contact details held if issued with a Court order.

Fascinating, if somewhat confusing at times, discussion. I'm sure there are some trans people for whom the root cause of their feeling trans, or at least part of it, is to do with entrenched beliefs about gender differences at home and / or elsewhere. However, I'm sure there are lots of other causes and in most cases it probably won't just be one thing (it's all a rich tapestry). The problem for me is that currently trans is presented as the cause, the issue, the thing, and the answer. Once a person realises they are trans, that is often seen as explaining everything. Sadly for a long time no one has been allowed to talk about trans as if there might be any underlying cause, or multiple causes, instead we have had to accept it as both the cause and the symptom and even trying to ask why it is that some people end up feeling this way was seen as close to genocide. I am quite sure that trauma is involved for many, but that doesn't automatically mean 'blame the parents' in all cases. Many parents try very hard in difficult circumstances but things happen outwith our control, or we do and say things without fully understanding the implications, or we are angry or tired or sad or stressed and we let our kids down one too many times as a result. I'm sure in many cases, it is a result of a fetish and I'm afraid I've never been brave enough to delve more deeply into how or why they develop. I'm sure societal expectations and peer pressure play their part. In the old days people worried that anorexia was caused by pro-ana websites, skinny models and so on. The anorexic girls I knew either had a lot going on at home or, looking back, were probably also autistic, and lived in a world where skinny was worshipped. So it was part of it but probably not the full story.

My heart goes out to any parent going through this; almost all parents only want whats best for our kids and do the best we can with the sense we have.