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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JKR Didn’t Have an Opinion. She Poisoned the Well

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CSIRCP · 28/08/2025 14:32

This post will likely be a little too long for most, but if you can spare the time and have a cuppa handy let's sit down and have a chat, shall we?

Firstly, let’s stop calling this a debate. It’s not. This isn’t two sets of ideas clashing. This is one woman’s fear and confusion being weaponized against an entire community.

What J.K. Rowling has done is not just share an opinion. She’s poisoned the well. And that poison is spreading through politics, education, the media, and even the courts.

At the beginning, it might have looked like a tweet. Then a blog. But what she wrote in that essay was revealing: “If I’d been born thirty years later, I too might have tried to transition. The allure of escaping womanhood would have been huge.”
That’s not neutral. That’s projection. It was a confession, repackaged as concern. She projected her own dysphoria and personal battles onto the entire trans community and used it as the foundation for a movement built on suspicion and fear.

She said she cared about women’s rights. Then aligned herself with those who believe all trans women are predators.
She liked racist and Islamophobic tweets. She repeated antisemitic tropes. She cast activists as violent men in dresses. She accused anyone who challenged her of misogyny while branding herself the face of feminism.
All the while she built up a devoted audience that now includes some of the most extreme anti-trans voices in Britain and beyond.

This “gender critical” movement is not about safety, and it’s certainly not about truth. It’s about control.
Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull (Posie Parker), one of Rowling’s ideological allies, has welcomed neo-Nazis to her rallies. Actual Nazis. The kind of people Rowling once wrote villains about.
In one case, people connected to this movement were linked to the satanic terror group 764 — a group that has influenced teen suicides and violent attacks in UK schools. Let that sink in. This is who she’s empowering.

She didn’t just turn away when that started. She doubled down. She gave this movement a gloss of legitimacy. She used her fame to funnel people toward disinformation, fear, and cruelty—and dressed it all up as feminism. But it isn’t feminism when it excludes, vilifies, and harms other women. Especially trans women. Especially intersex people. Especially anyone who doesn’t fit into the narrow fantasy of who is acceptable.

Rowling’s language now echoes in government documents. Her phrases like “gender ideology” have been lifted from far right sources, including the Vatican and authoritarian regimes, and mainstreamed into British law. Her influence helped set the stage for the UK Supreme Court to redefine the word “woman” based on sex assigned at birth, stripping rights from trans and intersex people under the Equality Act. That’s what happens when the well is poisoned. People stop thinking. They start reacting.

Meanwhile, her cult chant her slogans as though they are scientific fact. But science says otherwise. Peer-reviewed studies show that trans people’s brain structures do not align with their sex assigned at birth. They show that gender identity forms in the womb, shaped by hormones and biology not ideology. Large-scale DNA studies have found gene variants linked to gender incongruence. And intersex people exist. That is biological fact. Not one of these truths can be erased by Rowling’s fiction.

What makes this so dangerous is how calm it all sounds. Rowling doesn’t scream. She whispers. She calls it “concern.” She says she’s “just asking questions.”
But it’s never neutral to question someone’s right to exist. It’s not a debate when one side is simply trying to live and the other is trying to strip away their legal recognition and healthcare.

This isn’t just a disagreement. This is a slow campaign of erasure, led by someone with a global platform and millions in the bank.

She’s not some deluded soul from MN; she’s a multi-millionaire author whose words shape global policy. She’s not being silenced. She’s being echoed by judges, by pundits, by politicians trying to climb the ladder by stepping on the backs of trans, non-binary, and intersex people.

And let’s not pretend it stops there. Her influence has allowed people to feel safe expressing open homophobia, biphobia, and hatred toward anyone who challenges gender norms. Some of the same people aligned with her have mocked survivors, denied racism, and claimed slavery was “fine” if it was “kind.”
This is not a group grounded in empathy. It’s a movement that thrives on exclusion and resentment. Some of them now openly identify as neo Nazis. That’s where we are.

So next time someone says “she’s just worried” or “she’s not anti-trans” or “can’t we just disagree,” consider these words. Show them what poison looks like. Not just hateful speech but the deliberate seeding of doubt, division, and cruelty, all wrapped in a soft voice and a smug smile. J.K. Rowling didn’t protect anyone. She infected people. And when she’s gone, her legacy won’t be literature it will be the damage she left behind.

You don’t need to cancel her. You just need to see her clearly.
And if you blindly follow Rowling and her ideas then you need to reflect on what you’re really endorsing.

Because ignorance is not an excuse. Not anymore.

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Alucard55 · 29/08/2025 08:53

Well I said in the other thread that any man entering women's single sex spaces was predatory but apparently that is against talking guidelines.

ThatBlackCat · 29/08/2025 08:56

SnugPeach · 29/08/2025 00:11

I’ll put it simply as I’ve stated before. I don’t want to be a male. I don’t want to be seen as one and I don’t want to be one. I already spent years on this myself fighting with myself. I held of transitioning for years, telling myself the same things your saying. You don’t have to be a women you can be and die shiver you like and still be a man. Problem is a fundamentally hated being a man to the core of my being. Nothing can change that for me, I tried.

In my case surgery is my own decision and it’s what I desire. The surgery scares me, not because of what I’ll lose. I won’t loose anything, But only because it’s a major surgery and that’s scary regardless of what is being performed.

None of you were hated until you started violating women and girls boundaries and entered our spaces. As an adult what you do to your body is your business. All we ask, all we ask, is that you stay out of female only spaces. Then it's all good.

Pluvia · 29/08/2025 09:00

Everything JKR writes on Twitter gets hundreds of thousands of likes from individuals such as me and all the women I know. So she's not just one woman. She's most of us.

PennyAnnLane · 29/08/2025 09:00

@SnugPeach you think being a mutilated male will make you happy, it won’t, it won’t ever be enough, it will only make you sadder, looking for the next medical intervention that will make you happy. And let me tell you there is no version of the future where all women will accept you as female, some will be polite to your face, but you will always be worrying about someone telling you that you don’t belong, you will never look like a woman and it will only get worse as you age.

What would I have you do? You need to deal with your mental health issues first before mutilating your body. Pretending to be something you’re not for the next 50-60 years is not going to solve your problems. I would have you learn to live comfortably as who you really are, not as an assumed identity that requires others validation to exist.

ThatBlackCat · 29/08/2025 09:02

Well it's not at odds. At all. The Equality Act was meant to protect female sex rights. The ruling UPHOLDS those rights. And a poll showed that the overwhelming majority of the public support the SC upholding womens basic human rights.

The fact that you posted that article shows you're a boundary violator and clearly not posting in good faith, and the very reason some people hate transwomen. You want to erase womens hard won rights.

TheKeatingFive · 29/08/2025 09:03

You want to erase womens hard won rights.

Thats the bottom line, isnt it? That's the problem that you've created.

ThatBlackCat · 29/08/2025 09:07

SnugPeach · 29/08/2025 00:32

I give you an article from a person who literally worked on the Equality Act saying it was supposed to trans inclusive and your response is simply ‘so what’.

So the point is we did have those rights till the ruling and that is how the act was intended to be. As literally stated by somebody who worked on the Equality Act.

What is it with trans activists' obsession with the word 'literally'? It's really strange. They all use the word like it's going out of style.

That person who worked on the Act was wrong, if they believed that gender identity ideology should over-ride female oppression, then they are very messed up, evil, hateful and thankfully the court said NO it is WRONG to take female rights away.

MinnieCauldwell · 29/08/2025 09:08

JKR says what she says because women like me and most on this board are not allowed to say. We would lose our jobs and be at physical risk. For speaking the truth that Transwomen are men.
Honestly mate, you come across as a bit creepy, that's why we don't want you in our private spaces.

ThatBlackCat · 29/08/2025 09:12

SnugPeach · 29/08/2025 00:36

What’s the alternative to not wanting to be a man but not being allowed to be a woman? Non-binary did not feel right to me either I tried to just say I’m not a man or a woman but it still felt wrong as wrong as being a man. Just as much as non-binary people don’t feel right as a man or a woman.

You're not answering the questions, which is why us women have to budge up for men and suffer because of your illness? Stop your me-me-me-me-me.

Please answer the questions; ^And what are we supposed to do? Budge up and accept men who don’t like being men? Despite the our very legitimate fear? Our wish for dignity? That the introduction of just one man changes female only spaces?
Why do you expect untold numbers of women who hate having males in what were formerly single sex places to accommodate you?
Why do you think your wishes should overrule so many of us?^

ThatBlackCat · 29/08/2025 09:18

MarieDeGournay · 29/08/2025 00:51

Look, I don't want to be rude, I've engaged with you in a very personal way, talking about my experience of hating being a girl and how I managed to get through.. which you haven't responded to at all I notice.

You're a man who is very unhappy about being a man. We get the message. You believe you have the right to appropriate the identity 'woman' to make yourself feel better. You are going to continued appropriating the identity 'woman', despite all the objections that have been raised here, and explained in great detail to you, because it makes you happier.

So while not wanting to be rude, I have to suggest to you that your main concern is yourself and your happiness and to hell with what women think. Nothing anybody has said here has put the slightest dent in your attitude to your needs being more important than women's.

Maybe other posters will want to continue engaging with this, but I've had enough of your relentless defence of appropriating our identity just because you are not happy being a man.

I've engaged with you in a very personal way, talking about my experience of hating being a girl and how I managed to get through.. which you haven't responded to at all I notice.

That seems to be a common thread with transwomen on this board, I've noticed. We give them our personal experience and history, even telling of our trauma. NO RESPONSE from them. They don't even acknowledge it. It's like we don't even exist to them. They don't even see us, or acknowledge our humanity. It's all me-me-me-me-me-me-me-me. They don't listen to us. They don't acknowledge our arguments. They don't acknowledge of confiding to them our personal experience. They don't acknowledge our point. They simply start back to talking about themselves. Which is classic male behaviour.

ThatBlackCat · 29/08/2025 09:28

SnugPeach · 29/08/2025 01:00

I came here to share my feelings because I believe in trying to talk about differences and issues.

But you don't want to 'talk' - which is a conversation, an exchange of thoughts. You are not even acknowledging the personal stories as women here. All you think about is yourself and what you want. You don't engage. You don't acknowledge. You act like you don't even think females are human and have rights. You don't see us. You don't acknowledge us.

You don't want and are not interesting in "talking about differences and issues". Your only interest is in telling us why you should have what you want and why we should accept suffering for it. You talk AT us. Not once have you truly engaged or acknowledged us.

Giggorata · 29/08/2025 09:28

Literal bollocks, OP.

BettyBooper · 29/08/2025 09:32

All @SnugPeach has achieved for me is to further confirm that I no longer believe that gender dysphoria in males is even a thing.

It was always about Málaga Airport.

ThatBlackCat · 29/08/2025 09:33

SnugPeach · 29/08/2025 01:35

If anything my take away from my interactions is here is simply I do know who I am and what I want. Despite the fact I want to be loved and accepted for who I am by everyone I know now more so that it’s down to me to find and forge that.

But that will be as me and I’m not a man whatever you all think.

and what I want.

Yes, that's the take away message. It's 'me-me-me-me-me' and all about what you want. You haven't once considered what WE want. Because you don't even see us as human.

BettyBooper · 29/08/2025 09:34

ThatBlackCat · 29/08/2025 09:18

I've engaged with you in a very personal way, talking about my experience of hating being a girl and how I managed to get through.. which you haven't responded to at all I notice.

That seems to be a common thread with transwomen on this board, I've noticed. We give them our personal experience and history, even telling of our trauma. NO RESPONSE from them. They don't even acknowledge it. It's like we don't even exist to them. They don't even see us, or acknowledge our humanity. It's all me-me-me-me-me-me-me-me. They don't listen to us. They don't acknowledge our arguments. They don't acknowledge of confiding to them our personal experience. They don't acknowledge our point. They simply start back to talking about themselves. Which is classic male behaviour.

Yep.

We are all being used as props even on our own feminism board.

🤮

PennyAnnLane · 29/08/2025 09:36

BettyBooper · 29/08/2025 09:32

All @SnugPeach has achieved for me is to further confirm that I no longer believe that gender dysphoria in males is even a thing.

It was always about Málaga Airport.

It’s the wearing leggings that gives it away isn’t it, most men and women wear jeans, there’s a reasons they wear leggings.

BettyBooper · 29/08/2025 09:37

PennyAnnLane · 29/08/2025 09:36

It’s the wearing leggings that gives it away isn’t it, most men and women wear jeans, there’s a reasons they wear leggings.

Gives it away in more ways than one.

Which is probably the whole point.

🤮

DeanElderberry · 29/08/2025 09:38

TheKeatingFive · 29/08/2025 08:53

Having read multiple posts from @SnugPeach over the last few days, I have not seen him express one jot of interest/compassion/empathy for another person.

Its basically just 'me, me, me, me, me', over and over, for days.

He is among the most self centred humans I've ever encountered.

The same mind set as several anorexics I've known over the years. Terribly destructive to all round them, sometimes to themselves as well, alas.

Egomania is destructive, coercive control is one of its tools. @SnugPeach is young and could probably recover with a good therapist, but he'd need to want to recover and to choose therapist who wanted him to recover.

SionnachRuadh · 29/08/2025 09:39

BettyBooper · 29/08/2025 09:32

All @SnugPeach has achieved for me is to further confirm that I no longer believe that gender dysphoria in males is even a thing.

It was always about Málaga Airport.

I don't think the two have ever been mutually exclusive.

Grammarnut · 29/08/2025 09:39

That's two minutes of my life gone for nothing. A pack of lies. One: KJK did not welcome Nazis at a rally in Australia, they were allowed to turn up and not removed by the police - one could say it was an attempt to tarnish the Let Women Speak meeting by association.

I can't be bothered with the rest. Except this: trans = not. Transwomen are NOT women, they are men. Stay out of our spaces - the UKSC has told you to, it's the law.

DeanElderberry · 29/08/2025 09:40

Alucard55 · 29/08/2025 08:53

Well I said in the other thread that any man entering women's single sex spaces was predatory but apparently that is against talking guidelines.

you mustn't tell the truth because it might hurt men's feelings

BettyBooper · 29/08/2025 09:41

Grammarnut · 29/08/2025 09:39

That's two minutes of my life gone for nothing. A pack of lies. One: KJK did not welcome Nazis at a rally in Australia, they were allowed to turn up and not removed by the police - one could say it was an attempt to tarnish the Let Women Speak meeting by association.

I can't be bothered with the rest. Except this: trans = not. Transwomen are NOT women, they are men. Stay out of our spaces - the UKSC has told you to, it's the law.

Oh do read the first few pages, the responses are very funny!

Account734 · 29/08/2025 09:43

What a load of crap. Humans can't change sex and women have sex based rights for a reason, because men can be dangerous. JKR only said what sane people (and people educated on the topic) already knew. I love her, she's done so much for women's rights.

Take a look at the yougov polls. JKRs opinion is a majority opinion.

AnSolas · 29/08/2025 09:45

Sammybabes16 · 28/08/2025 15:10

I agree with all those points. It’s interesting that some on here have completely ignored all those facts you’ve posted and just given one sentence replies. It’s almost as if they cannot accept that these facts are true - unless they themselves are members of the far right.

You agree with the OP that:
• the current Pope,
• the prior Pope,
• the Pope prior to the prior Pope,
• Satan Worshippers and
• JKR
have joined forces in
● a Cabal
against men who demand Women's Rights?

Well OK then.
I can totally accept that fact is true because ..
..... (checks notes ) ....
. (checks membership dues paid ) ❌️
.. (checks bank account for deposits) ❌️
... (checks axis of evil ) ❌️
... (checks for weapons of mass distruction)❌️
Yuup, I am all Right not all Right Good !

RedToothBrush · 29/08/2025 09:50

SnugPeach · 29/08/2025 00:11

I’ll put it simply as I’ve stated before. I don’t want to be a male. I don’t want to be seen as one and I don’t want to be one. I already spent years on this myself fighting with myself. I held of transitioning for years, telling myself the same things your saying. You don’t have to be a women you can be and die shiver you like and still be a man. Problem is a fundamentally hated being a man to the core of my being. Nothing can change that for me, I tried.

In my case surgery is my own decision and it’s what I desire. The surgery scares me, not because of what I’ll lose. I won’t loose anything, But only because it’s a major surgery and that’s scary regardless of what is being performed.

In the nicest possible way

"I want doesn't get"

Lots of people don't want to be something, but you can't fundamentally change it.

Saying that you believe that being female is more than just biology, is just you trying to psychologically force your desires onto a bunch of other people. And it doesn't change the point that you still aren't a woman and will never be a woman.

It's not ok, to try and force your inability to come to terms with this onto others. It's abusive at its core to do this.

It is essentially a form of incelism where males are dictating to women regardless of how it might affect women. That's mens rights activism. That's not feminism and it's not ok because it's not aligned with women's interests.

And this is why JKRowling is hated because she's saying no and she's saying why it's not ok. And it's not liked.

You don't get a choice. Just like we don't get a choice to escape being women with all the downsides and risks that come with that - which are all biologically related.

Don't you stop to think that many of us, went through times in our lives where we didn't want that?

You can reinvent what it is to be a man, but you will never be a woman. If you try and force yourself onto women - whether physically, psychologically or by entering women's private spaces you are acting in a way that does not have consent. This is abusive male behaviour that does not respect women. It is not ok.

What you desire and can not have is not ours to grant anyway. You'll still be male.

Most of us, would love to be able to wave a magic wand and that anyone suffering could magically become female and have full understanding of what it is to be female.

But that's not how real life works. It isn't a fantasy story. Real life is cruel and unfair and miserable at times.

But none of this changes your sex. And we have the right to say no and to stand up for ourselves and not allow abusive males to dominate and dictate to us. We want self determination just as much as you. Self determination for women seems to be something that's not ok to express though - because men like you don't like it.

Well tough shit.

We aren't going to change our minds or be intimidated by you. Or guilt tripped. Cos frankly it's not our problem to solve.

In law as equals, compromises which respect everyone have to be reached. And if women are to have privacy and dignity from males it's impossible in the presence of men. Never mind the safety aspects.

I'm sorry you have a health condition you struggle with, but it's not for us to put ourselves at risk or to make sacrifices to our privacy to accomodate you at our own psychological expense.

The answer remains no.

And even if it was yes, you'd still be male.

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