Is it true KJK has been no-platformed by FiLia?

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Seen this on a number of threads on facebook, and wondered if it was true?

Surely you're not equating wearing a veil with beating someone? There are a huge problems w the veil. But if you approach a man beating his wife, he might get beaten himself by others and that's fine.

Whereas making a public spectacle of women wearing the veil could expose them to violent abuse.

These are all cases of women who were attacked for covering their hair, not even wearing a burqa (tho ofc it would be wrong to attack someone whatever they were wearing)

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/138836/pdf/&ved=2ahUKEwjBuM2_hLOPAxUDR0EAHcnkDSs4ChAWegQILxAB&usg=AOvVaw2KonGlBs7LPK4XNUmrOQ_z

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=trt.global/world/article/13109854&ved=2ahUKEwi9q_TWhLOPAxVFUUEAHT13MBs4HhAWegQIMhAB&usg=AOvVaw3CYUZlRSJ6QSxQLiOAUJHY

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=globalnews.ca/news/11272289/oshawa-pizza-pizza-swarming-attack/&ved=2ahUKEwjBuM2_hLOPAxUDR0EAHcnkDSs4ChAWegQIQRAB&usg=AOvVaw2jiq5oDPJMvHX_9TBkmZTu

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.ilfordrecorder.co.uk/news/24992419.elizabeth-line-hate-crime-woman-wearing-hijab-assaulted/&ved=2ahUKEwjg19KkhLOPAxV9XUEAHXLzKkoQFnoECEQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0eERiraTx7ROyrDaVrwW7U

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.nbcnews.com/news/world/muslim-woman-attacked-library-suspect-tried-set-hijab-fire-canadian-po-rcna197965&ved=2ahUKEwjg19KkhLOPAxV9XUEAHXLzKkoQFnoECBwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1sMtE_VthNIQ-iIXp8I5Y9

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8rkx37vd6zo&ved=2ahUKEwiD0bbqg7OPAxXkQEEAHeHsK7YQFnoECCQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1Be8sccSPePNaVu5jvKhM7

This is not true: "The reason WPUK dropped her from their panel was because they realised she supported Tommy Robinson".

Yeah, Starmer is a sell-out, but not because he's left wing!

Last time I checked, the Communist Party (definitely left wing!) was the only political party who knows what a women is.

There are loads of left wing GC people. Absolute bollocks to suggest otherwise.

The GRA, which kicked off this shit show, was brought in, in 2024 - under Tory Government, did you forget that?

And the GRA 2010 act was also under the Tories. with the Lib Dems in coalition.

No party has covered themselves in roses. This "the left wing don't know what a woman is" is bollocks which is designed to drive you to the right wing (and it works, it seems).

Truth is, most of the political parties have a MEN problem, in that sexism and misogyny is rife on all sides, sadly. At least the left have proved themselves over time to be more likely to stand up for women's rights.

This is TRA -style 'you're on the same side as Putin' level of debate.

Here is WPUK's statement- it had nothing to do with Tommy Robinson.

https://womansplaceuk.org/2022/06/22/womans-place-and-posie-parker/

Exactly, what a foul & disgusting thing to say.

But you said there was no point discussing with me because I thought Trump should be praised for specific actions, like Title X or prohibiting mastectomies on children? Why is it ‘tunnel vision’ for me to say things that I think he has done right that you also agree with?

There is a huge issue with politics generally including in the UK, where people cannot bring themselves to acknowledge when someone they usually profoundly disagree with does something correct. I usually totally disagree with Diane Abbott on nearly everything, but on assisted suicide I think she is totally correct. I would never vote for her but I would be happy to stand alongside her on that issue. I would also never vote for Joanne Cherry, despite her support for women’s rights, as she is SNP and I think independence, especially with the SNP at the helm, would cause huge harms to women. But I would praise her for voting against the GRR Bill. I also think if we want politicians to do more things ‘correctly’ we should say when they do things we agree with.

Thanks for sharing. In that, they say:

"In May 2018, we became aware of several tweets by KJK that made pejorative comments about Muslim communities. We believed these tweets would contribute to a hostile environment for people from minoritised communities."

Thanks for sharing. I've googled and there is a tweet in which she mentions Tommy Robinson. They may not have singled out that tweet, but I remember it being mentioned here at the time. It's not outright support, but it's a more snide "I don't support him but I don't see what he did wrong" kind of thing. On its own, could just be naive. With the other things she's posted then and since, she's racist.

Racism is on the rise in this country - surely you can see it? If we don't stand against it, we're headed for troubling times. And racists don't have a good record on women's rights!

This is TRA -style 'you're on the same side as Putin' level of debate.

well, quite, that was my point!

OK. I am starting to think you're just goading people now, or a troll.

"The GRA, which kicked off this shit show, was brought in, in 2024 - under Tory Government, did you forget that?"

The GRA was brought in under a Labour Government. In 2004.

I don't agree with him though. He might know what a woman is, but for a totally different reason than I do. The right want women to be a distinct category in order to oppress, not liberate us. I'm not voting for my own cage to be built.

Here's a pie chart showing the difference. Not perfect, but hopefull you get the idea.

No, sorry! Definitely not a troll!!

You're right 2004 was Labour, apologies. The 2010 act was defintiely Tory though.

My point is you can't blame left or right. And that stands. Both parties have a misogyny problem, as I said.

He has banned ‘gender affirming’ mastectomies on children and you don’t agree with him on that? I thought you said you did?

I presume you mean the Equality Act 2010? That was also Labour

KJK reminds a little of the unlucky anti -racist Corbyn, who was forever finding himself as the same room as holocaust deniers.

Based on your GRA comment, that I have responded to, and you here shifting goal posts without any evidence to this claim about KJK and Tommy Robinson, it's clear you're not here in good faith and stirring so I'm out. If you'd like to share evidence that KJK's alleged support of Tommy Robinson led to WPUK's statement, happy to re-engage and discuss.

This is ridiculous. Trump is a fascist. To have feminists championing him is ridicuous. He is no friend of women.

A stopped clock...

So you do agree with him on banning ‘gender affirming’ mastectomies on children?

Make up your mind.

No, sorry am now posting while multitasking/mothering and making stupid mistakes!

I mean the consulation on the reforms to the GRA Recognition Act, intended to reform the original GRA to allow self-ID and which basically kicked off the GC movement in earnest.

That was in 2018 and under Theresa May.

I remember it being discussed here as evidence of KJK's islamophobia at the time. I can't prove that it was included in the "several tweets" that WPUK refer to, but it was certainly mentioned here. You can find her old tweets if you google.

But this is splitting hairs. KJK posted Islamophobic tweets, that's the point. What difference does that make if she expressed that through tweeting about TR or other tweets?

Either way, WPUK are within their rights to not want to have her at one of their events if they don't want to.

Anyway, I have to spend some time actually mothering and not debating the toss on here.

Hopefully some women will start to see KJK isn't the hero she makes herself out to be.

I can't believe more women aren't more outraged by her using MN to crowdfund money for a refuge, not creating said refuge and then not donating all of that money. (Or at least if she did, she's never said where it all went).

I don't like to be taken for a mug!

I mean the consulation on the reforms to the GRA Recognition Act, intended to reform the original GRA to allow self-ID and which basically kicked off the GC movement in earnest.

That was in 2018 and under Theresa May.

And after a consultation, self id for a GRC wasnt introduced. (Although a GRC is self id really, given how few people are refused and there's no limit to the number of times someone can apply. And that was written into the orginal act)

The Conservatives did reduce the cost, though.

It wasn't introduced because of the work women did, including many MNers, to oppose it. The Tories thought it would go through easily.

Ok. Well as a sex realist I can’t support Labour and it sounds like these people do. It’s not a ‘one issue’ 🙄 thing, women’s rights cover many other issues as everyone on here understands.

If Labour got their way, and the SC had ruled that sex isn’t necessarily biological sex (as Aus has done, essentially), then women as a group don’t exist in the eyes of the law.

Which is catastrophic for women’s rights, and thank god the SC confirmed that (though the fact they needed to confirm biological fact in the first place..).

So no a group that supports Labour, does not support women’s rights because for Labour, women don’t really exist, do we.

But as I said, having not been before I’m going from what I’ve read about it. You could say go then, and find out for yourself… perhaps so.

I remember exactly why some GC feminists dont like her. It started because she said she doesn't like to see young school girls in a hijab. I think primary school girls.