Is it true KJK has been no-platformed by FiLia?

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Seen this on a number of threads on facebook, and wondered if it was true?

So you are once again saying you will only protest women because you think they are powerless against you? But you expect those powerless women to protest the violent neonazis that transactivist were afraid to instead? It seems rather that transactivists don’t actually object to neonazis

Nope. Just explaining what appeared to have happened, but you go ahead and make up scenarios in your head.

What do you even mean by that? I wasn’t there.

Excuse me? "My corner"?!!! Who do you think you're talking to? You've got a bit confused here!

I'm a GC feminist who has been involved in this movement for many, many years, plus a mumsnetter of the best part of 20 years. I've been called a lot of things, but never a TRA before😂

I used to be an ardent support of KJK, have met her IRL plenty of times and used to go to her events.

I want to bring women's attention to KJK's engagement with the far right and her refusal to take any steps to prevent them turning up at her events, as it's important we know what's going on under the banner of GC feminism.

With the alarming rise of racism in our society going on right now, it's really important we understand who is leeching onto our movement - especially as regards the far right - as it will harm us all if we just pretend it's not happening.

This has got exactly nothing to do with TRAs and everything to do with keeping our own house in order.

Thank you. FiLia is so much more than the pocket of GC feminism that this board inhabits. They're a force for good.

Everytime I go, I'm reminded of the wider issues and find out about stuff I had no idea about.

FiLia aren't a talking shop - they also take action on lots of issues. And, as you say, it's all volunteers working on it. It's amazing what they do.

Of course you are 🙄

Thank you

Women objecting to transactivism isn't a movement. Lots of women object to it for a million different reasons.

If you don't agree with what KJK is doing, it's not an issue, because it would appear that neither you nor she are including you in it.

I'm a GC feminist who has been involved in this movement for many, many years, plus a mumsnetter of the best part of 20 years.

Yes, @Holidayholiday2025 and @Olderbadger1 - like you, I've been involved as a feminist activist & researcher - in my case, since the late 1970s. I have a quite different perspective to those recently coming to the women's movement via posting on the internet as activism (eg FWR) or joining the opposition to gender extremist ideology in very specific campaigns (such as transwidows/children of trans).

But I look for silver linings - the gender extremist lobby (the TRAs) have certainly galvanised & revived a broader women's movement. In the 1990s, we were starting to get worried about the dominance of liberal/choice feminism; I can remember this being a discussion in a MA in Women's Studies I set up with colleagues (yes, when Women's Studies still existed!).

So it's been wonderful to observe the revival of a very active grass roots feminism that isn't about being a female "lad" or seeing being prostituted as emancipation. FiLIA is one organisation that, as @Olderbadger1 lists, casts a very wide net and is leading on some very important international projects. By focusing on FiLIA it doesn't mean that I'm negating or discarding other organisations - I do volunteer work with WDI, and am a member of my local WRN.

As I keep saying, when there's such a broad, grass roots movement (women are 51% of the population after all!) there are bound to be different aproaches and foundational beliefs. And that's OK.

We need to be less defensive and more comfortable about disagreeing with each other.

Feminism is a movement. HTH.

Women objecting to trans activism doesn’t equate feminism. HTH.

And KJK doesn't affect feminism, since she's not a feminist.

But I'm sure you know that

I really wish that were true. But in reality, that's not how it works.

Most TRAs protesting FiLia, for example, won't know or care about the difference between FiLia and KJK.

So, perhaps we shouldn't be talking about it on the feminist board?!

What disengenious nonsense.

No, you don't need to be a feminist to object to trans activism.

I'm here on the MN feminist boards as a GC feminist. As are most of us, I assumed?

The board is called Feminism and Women’s Rights. Not just feminism. Anyone can post on these boards, there isn’t a test to pass before doing so.

There are certainly a good number posting here that neither support feminism nor women’s rights….

KJK isn't a feminist, doesn't call herself a feminist and isn't responsible for what transactivists think.

Are we now responsible for the ignorance of TRAs?

OK, so if FiLia is a feminist conference and KJK isn't a feminist, why are we even having a conversation about why she's not on the program?

Why do women even care if she's not invited?!!

I'm not aware that KJK does care.

What can be done about that?

Do you think Filia should be shunning KJK more loudly? Is there something you think KJK should be doing about it?

Does it matter? I mean, they thought WPUK was funded by the US far right so why even bother?

Note, my question was about why women such at the women on this thread, care if KJK isn't invited to FiLia. The whole point of this conversation originally.

I didn't ask about what KJK thinks.

Given they think sex is a spectrum and humans can change sex, I think there is a long way to go before transactivists get in touch with reality. As long as Filia prioritises women, rather than men who pretend to be women, they won’t care who they invite, they will still condemn them.

Well, you’d need to ask each and every woman on this thread who isn’t happy about this that question, wouldn’t you?

What I personally find rather shocking isn’t KJK not being invited but Fiona McKenna not being allowed to launch her book at FiLia because it has a chapter on KJK.

Again, you're saying it's ok for the TRAs to attack women because they are not violent or 'unpleasant' or 'excitable' unlike the nazis. So it's ok to provoke women. You're excusing them attacking the vulnerable ones. TRAs are is particularly unpleasant and get really violent and excitable, so TRAs and the nazis really are far more alike in more ways than one.