Is it true KJK has been no-platformed by FiLia?

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Seen this on a number of threads on facebook, and wondered if it was true?

It’s an embarrassment because all the organisations doing it don’t actually employ many or any aboriginal people, and if aboriginal people actually kicked people off their land everyone would be up in arms.

I can’t imagine KJK would be interested in Filia. She was no-platformed years ago by WPUK.

There are women from many different political backgrounds who don’t rate Filia. I take it for what it is, a big event with lots of brilliant attendees and interesting and inspiring speakers. It’s not without its flaws, but none of these organisations are!

This is a tricky one. On the one hand, I'm deeply sceptical of why women would wear full face coverings like that. I agree fear of severe consequences is probs often involved.

Otoh I would have been a bit careful about how she did that. In the wrong context, she could be putting the woman at risk from other sources of abuse- we know there have been cases of women being abused for wearing coverings, bc cowards often prefer to attack people who can't fight back as well, rather than the men who cause most of the issues.

Not saying she shouldn't have done,,but I would have tried to do it fairly quiet area, for one, and not as a huge public statement.

I don't know much about why the statement is made, its always struck me as very weird when I see it come up Australian films - like what is it meant to achieve? You make a good point.

Absolutely, hijab is a feminist issue. There are some incredibly brave women standing up for their rights on this and they deserve our support.

KJK has a history of being pally with white nationalists. Do you really think blurting out "free your face" comes from a place of solidarity? How do you think it made the woman on the receving end feel? Supported or judged and attacked?

Let's look at the coments on YouTube then. How about this one:

"I am Muslim, and I am totally against face covering because it is a cultural tradition, not something from Islam. But I am also against her attitude — she is rude, and it’s not her business"

KJK performs feminity driven by commercial trends e.g. using makeup (as do many women, of course). Some feminists may feel she's letting the side down by embracing commercial beauty standards which they feel oppresse women. Would a good tactic to be to shout in her face about it and run away? Would she feel they were on their side? No? Why not?

For a woman who is only out for herself, she has put herself in harms way an awful lot. And it is hardly a secret she has been banned from most platforms or why. There are loads of women who were doing a huge amount to be supportive of women’s rights who were banned from Mumsnet purely for calling a man a man as well as her. A few years back censorship and forced speech was much more prevalent and KJK did a lot to help cut through that and move the Overton window at a time when many other ‘GC’ feminists were still ‘being kind’ and going along with men’s fantasies.

The ‘far right’ accusation is hardly a new one. KJK has used what resources she can to get a voice when the left has been entirely captured by transideology. A leading Australian politician has been forced to step down as a bankrupt after being found guilty of libel over this in regards of another politician who attended one of her meetings. As for Trump - he is due praise for his protection of the category of ‘women’ in the states and for measures to protect children from the ghoulish ‘gender affirming’ industry. That doesn’t mean everything he does is right or praise-worthy. It is back to that thing - if someone you disagree with believes in gravity do you think they are right that gravity exists or will you jump off a cliff to prove they are wrong?

As for being a difficult character - what else would you expect from someone who is prepared to wade upstream against the political tide? Only difficult characters are prepared to do that. You don’t have to like them personally.

Please don't forget KJK makes money from her content. (I believe YouTube has demonitised her now, thank goodness, but it's not her only channel, and she can still solicit donations from it even so).

The more commercial her content, the more it will get shared, the more money she makes from it. Being a content creator often does push people to more extreme views, as it's rewarded financially, especially if one has no morals to speak of.

KJK claims to have had 16 million views from that Free your Face snippet on Twitter alone. That would make her between a few hundred and a couple of thousand on Twitter just for that clip on that channel.

She's contraversial not because she has principles, but because it makes her ££££.

"I am Muslim, and I am totally against face covering because it is a cultural tradition, not something from Islam. But I am also against her attitude — she is rude, and it’s not her business"

Men who beat their wives may also claim it a cultural and would be against her pointing this out and say it is none of her business.

Please don't forget KJK makes money from her content.

Good for her.

I'm not going to bother going into detail to refute everything you've said as there's no point argjuing with anyone who thinks Trump should be congratulated for being good for women. He's a fascist and wants to remove women's rights. Knowing what a woman isn't enough if that person wants to put us back in the kitchen / be free to rape our daughers. Please, raise your standards!

But just to the persistent rumour that KJK - then Posie Parker - was removed from her for being GC? Nah, she was removed from here for how she treated other posters - being a bully and other unpleasantness. Not for her beliefs as far as I can remember. (And I've been her a very long time, now).

Quite 🧡🙌

Absolutely. She was banned from mumsnet for being consistently and persistently abusive to other posters. I remember, I was there.

So you would jump off a cliff to prove gravity didn’t exist?

Good for her for abusing veiled women in the street in order to make money from it?

Seriously?

Are you feeling quite OK?

Well you seem to think ensuring title X refers to women and thus protecting women’s sports is a problem….

I take it you also mastectomies for 13 year olds who have been indoctrinated into believing they were boys is a good idea? Afterall you don’t think stopping them is a good thing…

I’ve never been to this conference, all the strong intelligent women in the room is exciting. So I thought I might go. Having read up a bit about it, and seen some reviews / comments / mean girl type refs on here I think I’ll give it a miss, sadly. Not that they’d care of course.

It’s the left leaning silently judging / criticising people without saying their name etc. No thanks.

I’m not sure how anyone who supports women’s rights, or calls themself a ‘feminist’ (whatever that means), can support the left / labour in the uk. Starmer has been openly hostile to women, his own ex MP stated Labour have a woman problem. They think some women can have a penis.

It sounds like FiLia might just believe the same. So I’m guessing I wouldn’t be allowed a seat at the cool girls table either.

Nope. Like Audrey Lorde I do not live a single issue life. Neither do you. I suggest you try to look further than this one issue, it appears to be giving you tunnel vision which is allowing you to support the removal of women's rights.

Obviously I don't agree with the last point on their list, but here are some other issues you may benefit from knowing about.

nationalpartnership.org/20-ways-the-trump-administration-has-already-harmed-women-and-families/

Don't be ridiculous.

FILIA are certainly GC. You can dislike them for other reasons, but surely you don't think they believe men are women?

Who should they support instead? Tories? Reform? No one? Personally I'm leaning to no-one.

That's a shame. I've been a few times and it's great. So many women there, and there's a lot about the wider feminist issues that we could be talking about if we didn't have to fight the GC cause!

There are many different women there I'd never normally meet in real life, and lots of issues to learn about that I had no idea about. The women-only disco is great, too.

It's a shame if you let people who have no intention of going themselves put you off!

Oh, I didn't pick that up on my first read of that post!

Yeah, that's ridiculous! FiLia have put their neck out to put on massive GC conferences in the face of huge opposition and fuckery from TRA activists and sympathisers.

They're baddass!!

I was referring to Party of Women, not Adult Human Female, in relation to strike off initiated by the registrar and 'Women by Definition" as dissolved in 2021.

Compulsory strike off can also be because the company has stopped trading or is dormant - how do you know it was because accounts for POW weren't filed and was a deliberate action by KJK for nefarious reasons?

KJK did not receive "income", the company did. She didn't do POW alone, there were other women involved- should they not be paid for their time? You're making a lot of "I'm just asking questions" type comments on the accounts which I can understand but if you tried to interpret accounts many times like I have, a lot of it sounds like gibberish and gets "creative". Perhaps an accountant will see this and comment.

She has, AFIAK, addressed why she had to setup a private limited company for POW and that it was imposed on her vs a choice to go that route. Most political parties have some form of company registration so its not unusual. I believe she also addressed the refuge but could be wrong.

Look, I agree that ANY organisation taking donations should be transparent on where the money is spent - 100%. The same could be said for all political parties.