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Is it true KJK has been no-platformed by FiLia?

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IwantToRetire · 27/08/2025 18:27

Seen this on a number of threads on facebook, and wondered if it was true?

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334bu · 30/08/2025 15:17

"Maybe I'm being unfair tho..."
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drhf · 30/08/2025 15:24

Kellie-Jay Keen creates a space for any woman to speak. FILIA creates a space for women with a shared political outlook to speak.

Both of these things have value. Keen doesn’t seem to object to this, so why should anyone else?

catspyjamas1 · 30/08/2025 15:54

Libertybellz · 30/08/2025 01:03

Spinifex embarrassing themselves by beginning with a land acknowledgment

Why do you think its an embarrassment? The acknowledgement is pretty standard AFAIK in Australia as I see it on nearly all Australian films and TV shows broadcast in the UK and on streaming services.

CarobBean72 · 30/08/2025 15:54

AliasGrace47 · 30/08/2025 15:11

That's disgusting. And obvs someone might have concern for Palestine without being a Hamas supporter, or hating Israel.

People defend KKK against purity spirals, but she seems to see no issue w them herself.

I think she’s a bit random, has no political analysis (but hates socialist feminists) & doesn’t really think before she speaks.

Genius marketing though, & simple-but-effective point about letting women speak.

Personally I find her boring & sometimes silly, like when she was running down the FWS victory, ironically recycling TRA talking points that it “only” applies to the Equality Act (ONLY our work live & our lives as consumers of goods & services… a mere nothing🙄).

But LWS is worth it for the other women who come & speak, & for bringing out the unhinged nature of the TRAs.

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 15:57

lanadelgrey · 27/08/2025 19:09

This question seems to have been posed ahead of every FiLiA I’ve attended.
KJK doesn‘t really align. The whole point of FiLiA is is to platform lots of women’s issues equally rather than have a few grandstanders especially ones who say openly that they are not feminists. It‘s very much global and left leaning so I would guess KJK hasn‘t been ‚no platformed‘ in some grand gesture but rather that values are v different

This.

But KJK does enjoy painting herslef as the hero-victim, as most narcissists do, so she'll probably tell people she's been no platformed for the drama. I can't believe women are STILL being sucked in by her self-serving nonsense.

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 16:05

drhf · 30/08/2025 15:24

Kellie-Jay Keen creates a space for any woman to speak. FILIA creates a space for women with a shared political outlook to speak.

Both of these things have value. Keen doesn’t seem to object to this, so why should anyone else?

KJK makes money out of encouraging women to shout into a vacuum. It's great to meet each other, but there's no coherent campaign behind it. It doesn't go anywhere. KJK uses the women's voices to raise HER OWN platform, not theirs. She doesn't have any coherent political aims but she sure loves to stoke divisions.

And then when change does happen - after other women doing the actual hard work - she either belittles them or claims the victories are her own.

And like any narc, if you criticise her, she NEVER forgets it. She spends a LOT more time having a go at her detractors than they do, all the while claiming she's the one under attack, because of "jealousy" or other nonsense claims.

If you still can't see she's a grifter, please ask yourself what exactly happened to the money crowdfunded on here for a women's refuge? Several thousand is still missing, she won't say what happened to it. I don't know about you, but I really don't appreciate being taken for a mug.

FWS and other feminist groups are actually making change. KJK is a leech. She sets up a company, takes loads in donations and then conveniently closes it before she has to submit full accounts to HMRC. Rinse and repeat.

catspyjamas1 · 30/08/2025 16:09

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 16:05

KJK makes money out of encouraging women to shout into a vacuum. It's great to meet each other, but there's no coherent campaign behind it. It doesn't go anywhere. KJK uses the women's voices to raise HER OWN platform, not theirs. She doesn't have any coherent political aims but she sure loves to stoke divisions.

And then when change does happen - after other women doing the actual hard work - she either belittles them or claims the victories are her own.

And like any narc, if you criticise her, she NEVER forgets it. She spends a LOT more time having a go at her detractors than they do, all the while claiming she's the one under attack, because of "jealousy" or other nonsense claims.

If you still can't see she's a grifter, please ask yourself what exactly happened to the money crowdfunded on here for a women's refuge? Several thousand is still missing, she won't say what happened to it. I don't know about you, but I really don't appreciate being taken for a mug.

FWS and other feminist groups are actually making change. KJK is a leech. She sets up a company, takes loads in donations and then conveniently closes it before she has to submit full accounts to HMRC. Rinse and repeat.

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?! "She sets up a company, takes loads in donations and then conveniently closes it before she has to submit full accounts to HMRC."

That's quite an accusation - can you share more information about this?

SionnachRuadh · 30/08/2025 16:12

I'm not saying she never stoops to childish digs, but I've never heard her have a go at a feminist who hasn't already attacked her multiple times.

And let's consider what the former WPUK crowd have been aiming at her for years. They've literally been calling her a fascist. These women, who pride themselves on being more politically sophisticated than KJK, know that in the world of left wing politics that means "KJK is an enemy of the people and should be assaulted on sight". And they know there are plenty of men who are quite happy to take that as an excuse.

I'm not in the business of defending KJK, who can defend herself, but at this point I'm really fucked off with the WPUK gang playing Gerry Healy style politics and then going who, us? when called out on it.

And I'm sorry, Filia does lots of good work and platforms lots of good people, but it should have told them long ago to act out their grudges on their own time. But of course, these are women with standing in the movement, so they never will.

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 16:12

SionnachRuadh · 30/08/2025 11:11

Yeah, I have my differences with KJK but her attitude has always been "let a thousand flowers bloom, I'll do my thing and you're more than welcome to do yours". I don't ever remember her criticising Filia - her attitude is probably that it's not really her thing but it does a valuable job.

The issue is that there are certain people involved in Filia who really don't like KJK, so we get this Mean Girls bullshit of speakers making thinly veiled jabs at She Who Must Not Be Named, and apparently you can be excluded if you're perceived as being too friendly to KJK.

It's all very teenage, and takes away from all the good stuff Filia does.

Yeah, you really don't know her. That's not her attitude AT ALL. That's a person with morals and who's supportive of the whole movement, and it would be really nice if she was that person, but sadly she isn't.

It's easy fall into the trap of projecting onto leaders and public figures, the character we wish they had, especially when we really need them to be that moral person. I know I've fallen into that trap. They say "never meet your heros!".

I remember, there was a whole thread on here with people saying they thought Boris Johnson was a decent man who has our best interests at heart, at the beginning of the pandemic. I mean, we really did need him to be! But sadly, he wasn't.

KJK is the same. I started off as a huge supporter of her. But I've met her IRL several times, and have seen her MO develop over the years. She's only out for herself. She needs the FWS win to not be so big as when we win this fight, she loses her income streams. She will need to diversify (hence courting new markets in the US and with the far right).

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 16:13

catspyjamas1 · 30/08/2025 16:09

?! "She sets up a company, takes loads in donations and then conveniently closes it before she has to submit full accounts to HMRC."

That's quite an accusation - can you share more information about this?

Look on Companies House.

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 16:14

SionnachRuadh · 30/08/2025 16:12

I'm not saying she never stoops to childish digs, but I've never heard her have a go at a feminist who hasn't already attacked her multiple times.

And let's consider what the former WPUK crowd have been aiming at her for years. They've literally been calling her a fascist. These women, who pride themselves on being more politically sophisticated than KJK, know that in the world of left wing politics that means "KJK is an enemy of the people and should be assaulted on sight". And they know there are plenty of men who are quite happy to take that as an excuse.

I'm not in the business of defending KJK, who can defend herself, but at this point I'm really fucked off with the WPUK gang playing Gerry Healy style politics and then going who, us? when called out on it.

And I'm sorry, Filia does lots of good work and platforms lots of good people, but it should have told them long ago to act out their grudges on their own time. But of course, these are women with standing in the movement, so they never will.

KJK supports Tommy Robinson, invites the far right to take part at her events, goes on YouTube channels of known white nationalists and goes up to women with veiled faces and has a go at them. You're telling me she's not racist? Yeah, right. Hmm

catspyjamas1 · 30/08/2025 16:19

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 16:13

Look on Companies House.

I have. One company dissolved in 2021 and Party of Women dissolved in August 2025 that was initiated by the registrar, not KJK, so I'm not sure you can state "then conveniently closes..."

catspyjamas1 · 30/08/2025 16:31

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 16:13

Look on Companies House.

Further, annual party donations are public and available via the electoral commission.

https://search.electoralcommission.org.uk/English/Accounts/ST0029467

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 17:00

catspyjamas1 · 30/08/2025 16:19

I have. One company dissolved in 2021 and Party of Women dissolved in August 2025 that was initiated by the registrar, not KJK, so I'm not sure you can state "then conveniently closes..."

OK, let's look at what she has. There are 4 companies:

  1. Women by definition. Set up in 2020 but never submitted accounts. Disolved in 2021.
  2. Adult Human Female store, set up in 2021. Submitted micro accounts in 2023 & 4, for the financial years 2021/2 and 2022/3. You're right it wasn't disolved, but it was marked "dormant" in March of this year, claiming assets of £1.
  3. Let Women Speak set up in 2023, has submitted only one set of micro accounts,claims to only have £10, no assets.

Meanwhile, KJK has been running her tshirt shop and other promotions, plus taking donations. Are we to believe that since she last submitted accounts up to April 2023, she's made NO money from the shop? So much so that she's marked the company dormant? I don't belive that. So it must be in yet another company, perhaps with somoene else at the director, or not being declared.

  1. Party of Women, set up in 2024. No accounts were submitted. It was struck off because she never filed documents.

Thanks for the link to the Electoral Commission.
So, despite never filing accounts for her POW company, it shows she received total income of £58,753, made up of donations of £44,000, the remainder marked "misc".

Her expenditure is marked as:

£23,099 on "fund raising" (for what, exactly?)
£23,510 on "staff" (who did this go to, I wonder? A family member maybe?)
£6,899 on "misc."
£5,245 left over.

What was that money spent on? We'll never know as she's not transparant about it.

It's notable also IMO that all these entities are Private Limited Companies. All the activitst I know who set up organisaitons for political reasons set them up as non-profit entites such as CICs and are totally transparent about where the money goes.

KJK sets up limited companies and is opaque about where the money goes and what it's spent on.

I still want to know, where's the money from her business since 2023?
Where are the remaining thousands in donations for the women's refuge? Did they go into her pocket?
Why hasn't she delared any income since 2023?
Why didn't she file accounts for her Party of Women company?

Seriously can you not see this is a grift? If it sounds like a duck, walks like a duck...

BabyCatFace · 30/08/2025 17:05

If they have never invited her to speak then withdrawn the invitation then they haven't no platformed her. Not inviting someone to speak isn't no platforming them. Why does anyone think KJK would be invited to speak at Filia? That's a mad idea.

SpidersAreShitheads · 30/08/2025 17:08

Weirdly, I was thinking about this subject earlier today.

I was trying to unpick whether I’ve caught myself in a purity spiral as far as KJK is concerned. (I was discussing feminism and trans rights with DP).

I agree we don’t have to share all opinions and values. Feminists on the right and the left should be equally welcome, even if they don’t agree on the path.

But is there ever a point where other views become so problematic that it’s not a purity spiral to stop feeling ok with being aligned?

I struggled with KJK’s fangirling of Trump because he actively harms women in multiple ways. No issues with someone being a Republican or Conservative but to actively and repeatedly praise an individual that’s so deeply misogynistic is hard to reconcile with believing in women’s rights.

And I don’t believe that she gives all women a platform - she’s incredibly spiteful about any woman who doesn’t share her right-wing views.

So it feels as if although she did amazing work early doors, she’s now more of a political mouthpiece for the right - and if she’s a Tommy Robinson supporter as PP says, then that really is pretty unpleasant stuff she’s endorsing.

I’m autistic so sometimes grapple with nuance. I’m naturally left wing but follow both left and (some) right wing accounts as I think an echo chamber isn’t helpful and I like to challenge myself.

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 17:08

catspyjamas1 · 30/08/2025 16:19

I have. One company dissolved in 2021 and Party of Women dissolved in August 2025 that was initiated by the registrar, not KJK, so I'm not sure you can state "then conveniently closes..."

I will extend my phrase "conviently closes" to "conviently closes, makes dormant or forces closure through failing to submit accounts".

Happy now? It's 3 times to date.

I do see that she's submitted a couple of sets of accounts, however, so it's not none. It's certainly far from a full set though! Do you really believe she's only made £10 since 2023?

I mean, she may be putting them through another business with her husband as the director or something. But even if it's being declared somewhere, it's not exactly transparent for her donors, is it?!

Incidentally, most political parties are unincorporated associations. However, KJK chose to set up as a public limited company. Just like Reform / the Brexit Party.

Make of that what you will.

AliasGrace47 · 30/08/2025 17:10

SionnachRuadh · 30/08/2025 16:12

I'm not saying she never stoops to childish digs, but I've never heard her have a go at a feminist who hasn't already attacked her multiple times.

And let's consider what the former WPUK crowd have been aiming at her for years. They've literally been calling her a fascist. These women, who pride themselves on being more politically sophisticated than KJK, know that in the world of left wing politics that means "KJK is an enemy of the people and should be assaulted on sight". And they know there are plenty of men who are quite happy to take that as an excuse.

I'm not in the business of defending KJK, who can defend herself, but at this point I'm really fucked off with the WPUK gang playing Gerry Healy style politics and then going who, us? when called out on it.

And I'm sorry, Filia does lots of good work and platforms lots of good people, but it should have told them long ago to act out their grudges on their own time. But of course, these are women with standing in the movement, so they never will.

I agree for the most part...the fascist labelling was unforgivable, put her life in danger 😡

But, CarobBean72, you say your friend hadn't attacked KJK, it was unprovoked? I hope this is the only time that she's done that.

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 17:10

SpidersAreShitheads · 30/08/2025 17:08

Weirdly, I was thinking about this subject earlier today.

I was trying to unpick whether I’ve caught myself in a purity spiral as far as KJK is concerned. (I was discussing feminism and trans rights with DP).

I agree we don’t have to share all opinions and values. Feminists on the right and the left should be equally welcome, even if they don’t agree on the path.

But is there ever a point where other views become so problematic that it’s not a purity spiral to stop feeling ok with being aligned?

I struggled with KJK’s fangirling of Trump because he actively harms women in multiple ways. No issues with someone being a Republican or Conservative but to actively and repeatedly praise an individual that’s so deeply misogynistic is hard to reconcile with believing in women’s rights.

And I don’t believe that she gives all women a platform - she’s incredibly spiteful about any woman who doesn’t share her right-wing views.

So it feels as if although she did amazing work early doors, she’s now more of a political mouthpiece for the right - and if she’s a Tommy Robinson supporter as PP says, then that really is pretty unpleasant stuff she’s endorsing.

I’m autistic so sometimes grapple with nuance. I’m naturally left wing but follow both left and (some) right wing accounts as I think an echo chamber isn’t helpful and I like to challenge myself.

The reason WPUK dropped her from their panel was because they realised she supported Tommy Robinson. As a left wing org, that's fair enough IMO!

They said no more about it for years, but she wouldn't let it lie as she LOVES an enemy to lambast. She thrives on us-and-them division. Classic narc tactic.

AliasGrace47 · 30/08/2025 17:13

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 16:14

KJK supports Tommy Robinson, invites the far right to take part at her events, goes on YouTube channels of known white nationalists and goes up to women with veiled faces and has a go at them. You're telling me she's not racist? Yeah, right. Hmm

Edited

Do you have a source for the veiled faces thing?

I've heard people on here defend the Gariepy & other white nationalist thing by saying that white nationalists' children need to be protected from the trans too. Which was something I hadn't thought of in that way, and is ofc completely true.

But surely people like Gariepy would know about trans already? I'd be suprised if they didn't. Quite a lot of trans people are neo Nazis, after all.

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 17:19

AliasGrace47 · 30/08/2025 17:13

Do you have a source for the veiled faces thing?

I've heard people on here defend the Gariepy & other white nationalist thing by saying that white nationalists' children need to be protected from the trans too. Which was something I hadn't thought of in that way, and is ofc completely true.

But surely people like Gariepy would know about trans already? I'd be suprised if they didn't. Quite a lot of trans people are neo Nazis, after all.

It's on her own accounts. She went up to women in veils (at speakers corner I think?) and told them "Free your faces. Free yourselves" while walking past them. I mean, she would claim she is on their side against the partiarcy, but seriously. She didn't stop to speak to them, she just blurted it out at them as she went past.

It's about having a go at Islam, not supporting women. It can't have been nice for the women on the receiving end. That's not solidarity, it's grandstanding and creating content for clicks.

It's on Youtube , you can find it if you search but I'm not going to give her more publicity by posting it here.

BabyCatFace · 30/08/2025 17:20

AliasGrace47 · 30/08/2025 17:10

I agree for the most part...the fascist labelling was unforgivable, put her life in danger 😡

But, CarobBean72, you say your friend hadn't attacked KJK, it was unprovoked? I hope this is the only time that she's done that.

I have had personal run ins with her in a capacity I won't say on here because it's outing and because MN doesn't let you name change mid thread any more. She was absolutely vile to me when I was doing nothing more than asserting some reasonable boundaries. She can be extremely abusive, verbally aggressive, high handed and entitled. Her attitude was genuinely quite narcissistic. She had a 'don't you know who I am' tone and this was even before she was a household name. I don't trust her in any capacity.

Holidayholiday2025 · 30/08/2025 17:22

BabyCatFace · 30/08/2025 17:20

I have had personal run ins with her in a capacity I won't say on here because it's outing and because MN doesn't let you name change mid thread any more. She was absolutely vile to me when I was doing nothing more than asserting some reasonable boundaries. She can be extremely abusive, verbally aggressive, high handed and entitled. Her attitude was genuinely quite narcissistic. She had a 'don't you know who I am' tone and this was even before she was a household name. I don't trust her in any capacity.

Yup, you've met the real KJK.

I've met her quite a few times and this is exactly who she is.

SouthWamses · 30/08/2025 17:26

goes up to women with veiled faces and has a go at them

told them "Free your faces. Free yourselves" while walking past them

So walking past them? Did you read the responses she received from women living under Islamic oppression that she got as a result of this? The heartbreaking stories of women forced to cover up for fear of death?

Ddakji · 30/08/2025 17:27

PencilsInSpace · 29/08/2025 23:07

I don't think KJK has ever been interested in speaking at Filia has she?

But Fiona McAnena is not allowed to present Terf Island there because she included a chapter on KJK. It's all getting a bit silly.

Also Spinifex have been told they can't have Sheila Jeffreys on their panel. There will be a side event happening down the road.

(towards the end)

That’s very wrong on both counts.

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