Women's 'Private Spaces'

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Clearly private spaces for women are considered a necessity by many due to a propensity for male sexual violence. Given this threat is much greater by orders of magnitude in the work place as opposed to public bathrooms, isn't it inconsistent not to demand private spaces there as well?
Thoughts?

You mean that risible Williams Institute link?

I am trying to understand what thing I have in common with trans women that means it's more appropriate for them to share showers and changing rooms with me than with members of their own sex.
I'd say it's pretty damn relevant.
Very telling that you can't name a single thing.

The justification for their inclusion is safety. Their more of a risk of them abused in male bathrooms & no risk to women in theirs.

That trans women share behavioural commonalities with women doesn't come into public risk assessment.

So your justification for their inclusion is that it benefits them (but doesn't benefit us).

And you still can't name a single one of these behavioural commonalities we allegedly share?

And you are still lying about there being no risk to women from having hulking great males in our single sex spaces, despite having been told I don't know how many times that the thing you say doesn't happen has actually happened.

I don't care if it's a virulent horny rapist, the Pope, the really nice man who fixed my washing machine yesterday or the really shy quiet wouldn't hurt a fly neighbour of mine who used to be called John and is now called Jane. I know that statistically I'm more at risk from a man than I am a woman. And so I don't want any of them in a women only single sex space.

So you've got nothing you can pull from your own head then? Good to know.

And nothing in the "data" he keeps wibbling on about either.

The justification for their inclusion is safety. Their more of a risk of them abused in male bathrooms & no risk to women in theirs.

Well that's just bollocks.

"I know that statistically I'm more at risk from a man than I am a woman."

Yes we get it, nuance isn't your strong point.

Any news on those commonalities I allegedly share with Katie Dolatowski?

So your justification for their inclusion is that it benefits them (but doesn't benefit us).

Talk about delusional entitlement. Laws aren't required to 'benefit' you only to prevent harm.

Condescension appears to be yours though.

I used, naively, to believe that identifying as a woman would automatically mean that a trans woman would be someone who fits in in women's spaces. Unfortunately, a good many of the ones who are most hell bent on getting into woman's single sex spaces seem to have a far higher level of male chauvinist piggery than the average man (most of whom wouldn't dream of carrying on like they do).

Frankly, if I was a trans woman who wanted to convince some reluctant women that I was a woman just like them who "only wants to pee", I wouldn't try to advance the dialogue by telling them to "suck my girl dick". As a statement of feminist solidarity it lacks a certain something, don't you think? Yet it seems to be a popular TRA riposte.

And don't get me started on the rowdy women's-meeting-disrupters and the piss-protestors, and on the "this is me on the women's toilet" pictures, and on the delightful people whose contributions to the debate are catalogued on the website called "terfisaslur".

You will probably argue that they are "only a minority", but there seem to be quite a few of them and they certainly exist. They're not fit to be within a hundred miles of any women's single-sex spaces. And in most cases, except for high profile characters like Sarah Jane Baker, we don't know who they are.

"And nothing in the "data" he keeps wibbling on about either."

= Can't process anything contrary to JK agit prop…..

But you're only concerned about preventing harm to trans identifying men.

You're not concerned at all about preventing harm to women and girls.

Women and girls are the much bigger group and less physically able to defend themselves so preventing harm to them should be a bigger priority.

Absolutely this.

I would actually rather have to share a changing room with my male boss than any of these violent thugs who insist that they are women and demand access to women's spaces.

"You will probably argue that they are "only a minority", but there seem to be quite a few of them and they certainly exist."

'up yours' = can't possibly be a woman

More stereotyping from the anti stereotyping brigade?
GC's: Inconsistencies R US!

"You're not concerned at all about preventing harm to women and girls."

Imagined harm doesn't qualify as actual harm.

The actual sexual assaults experienced by women and girls at the hands of trans identifying men are not "imagined harm".

You disgust me.

Katie Dolatowski's youngest known victim was TEN YEARS OLD.

How can we keep girls like her safe if we have to let men like him into women's single sex spaces?

Thankfully the Supreme Court has kicked these vile specimens and their pathetic apologists into touch and we now know that they are not allowed to be in our spaces.

It's a strange strategy OP is using. It seems to be If I insult them in every post they'll see the error of their ways and finally realise transwomen have so much in common with women that they must be allowed into women's single sex spaces.

It's quite clear that even the OP doesn't believe we have anything in common with trans women, but that doesn't matter to him.

The only thing that matters to him is these men getting what they want.

Well, what happens in Australia is Australia's lookout, but I am proud to be from TERF Island where the rights and needs of women and girls have finally been acknowledged and protected.

"The actual sexual assaults experienced by women and girls at the hands of trans identifying men are not "imagined harm".
You disgust me."

All groups 'actually' sexually offend including women. You gonna ban them too? Single loos only now? No. Your hypocrisy disgusts me.

"let men like him into"

Earth to poster: Rapists don't require 'permission' to go about their business.

In which case trans identifying men are surely just as much risk from women in women's toilets as they are from men in men's toilets, right? So they might as well go in men's toilets since the risk is the same, according to you.

t's a strange strategy OP is using. It seems to be If I insult them in every post they'll see the error of their ways and finally realise transwomen have so much in common with women that they must be allowed into women's single sex spaces.

Oh you don't like the snarky mirror? Don't expect what you don't reflect.