Women's 'Private Spaces'

[Howseitgoin]

Clearly private spaces for women are considered a necessity by many due to a propensity for male sexual violence. Given this threat is much greater by orders of magnitude in the work place as opposed to public bathrooms, isn't it inconsistent not to demand private spaces there as well?
Thoughts?

You have no data to back up this assertion.

For the risk to be assessed as unacceptable evidence from harm from Trans women not men needs to exist

Transwoman are men, therefore no need for further risk assessments as their risk to women is the same as the risk to women from the rest of the male half of the human species.

A man deciding they are a woman does not make them any less of a risk to women. And if you think it does can you explain how some bloke called Brian, who has a propensity to regularly hit woman, by saying "I am a woman called Barbara" suddenly lessens his risk to women?

There's no evidence trans women offend at the same rates as men nor have changes that have legalised trans women in women's toilets (i linked study upthread) brought about increased crime

I'm not an expert on this and am off to bed. I've seen this discussed at depth before, using high rates of transgender sex offenders to show risk so someone will maybe pop up tomorrow.

However, one of the reasons many in the UK have changed views is the number of trans offenders as well as being aware most still have penises so are usually able to rape.

That said, privacy and dignity is also a strong motivation for separate spaces.

You were the one who brought up danger to boys from paedophiles. It seems boys are in danger when you need them to be to back up your argument, and aren't really in danger when it's inconvenient for you.

"What commonalities do they have with women that they do not also have with men?"
As I already explained upthread the sexes share personality traits which are 'sexed' IE more common to a particular sex. On an individual basis this can mean a 'reproductive' male may exhibit personality traits more common in females & vice versa that implicates their behavioural patterns overall having more in common with females as a group. IE Femininty, Agreeableness, Neuroticism etc.
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3149680/

We've shown you statistics which indicate that trans women are even more likely to commit sex crimes than other men. You batted these away as unreliable because David Allsop said so.

You have no data to back up this assertion.

Ive already posted the data upthread.

Past them being human and maybe wearing the same blouse from Marks and Spencer what other commonalities are you thinking of?

What personality trait do all women share, and all men not share? Name one please.

that only makes sense when they are stereotyped as freaks, predators & sex pests

Yes I'm sure demanding to be in women's spaces is really helping them with that stereotype...

No, you've posted that crappy link to the Williams Institute about eight times.

"Transwoman are men"

This is a particularly dopey take. Sub groups of reproductive males have different behavioural patterns. See: Younger men V older men, gay men v straight, etc..

Focus please. What behavioural or personality trait do all women have?

"Past them being human and maybe wearing the same blouse from Marks and Spencer what other commonalities are you thinking of?"

Have already explained this upthread.

Younger men V older men, both groups are men

gay men v straight, Both groups are men

Tranwomen v men. Both groups are men.

No you haven't. You've failed to name even one common trait.

"What personality trait do all women share, and all men not share? Name one please."

Irrelevant. Sex distinction can be based on averages. You do this yourself when you claim 'all men shouldn't have access to women's spaces 'cause violence'.

Also saying there needs to be evidence means that we need to allow them in our facilities and see how often they assault us.

How about we get some agreed reliable data for general offenses by transwomen over a decent time period, see how often they assault others, and then discuss?

The safety of women and girls isn't an experiment, unless you are a man.

"Both groups are men."

Yeah that's the point. Reproductive males don't all behave the same way. FFS…

I'm asking YOU to tell us what YOU think those commonalities are. Surely as you seem to have a better capacity for understanding the intricacies of this than the rest of us you could spell it out for us.

I am trying to understand what thing I have in common with trans women that means it's more appropriate for them to share showers and changing rooms with me than with members of their own sex.

I'd say it's pretty damn relevant.

Very telling that you can't name a single thing.

Your point being?

"I'm asking YOU to tell us what YOU think those commonalities are. Surely as you seem to have a better capacity for understanding the intricacies of this than the rest of us you could spell it out for us."

I refer to data that I linked is what I 'think'.

My level of literacy or appetite for hard work is entirely irrelevant to this discussion.

You are the one arguing that trans women belong in women's showers and changing rooms based on "commonalities" you believe they share with each other, so being able to name some of them is on you.

You can't, because there aren't any.