What would you actually do if you saw a transperson in the wrong toilet/changing room for their sex?

[FattyMcFattyArse]

I've been pondering this ever since the FWS decision and since I saw an obviously male transperson using the ladies at a service station. I initially froze and wanted to say something, but all my Britishness and female social conditioning made me just mutter under my breath and walk away in disgust.

What would you do?

What have you done?

What is the right thing to do?

They don't belong there, according to the law.

Toilets, ignore as there are cubicles with locks. In gym (no cubicles), I’d tell a member of staff.

The males in my life wouldn’t threaten or harm any woman I’m sure (as much as you can know a person). They should rightfully be called out if they went into a space just for women. Same as trans women. Who are also male.

I'm a woman.

Newsflash- More women are supportive of trans rights than men are.

Can you back up that ‘newsflash’. Evidence isn’t a strong point when it comes to TRA’s.

Look at the overall figures though. Pretty much every demographic, including women, say "No" on almost every issue.

I'd mind my own business and do what I went in there for.

No you're not. Remember we've had that conversation. We've also talked about the importance of facts not feelz - the screenshot above serves as a good reminder for you.

The women’s toilets are not meant to be unisex.

A transwoman is a ‘cis’ man! There’s not some special kind of man that isn’t male. So it makes no difference what he claims to be.

I think you would get accused of harassment and of breaking some laws if you did that?

But we’re not talking about unisex toilets or spaces are we? Do keep up dear.

I would freeze and then I would leave. Just like I did when I found a bogstandard man in the changing room.
In that case I told the receptionist there was a man in the women's changing room. I wouldn't do the same if it was a trans identified man because I'm in Ireland. In Britain I probably would. Here, I just don't use the gym any more.

So why are men not being called names, threatened with rape, violence or murder? If men are so transphobic, why are only women threatened and harraseed. I mean, it couldn’t be because males with a trans identity are cowards who pick on weaker more vulnerable people is it?

ps women are not more supportive of trans rights, we’re just scared if the consequences of saying no to men.

I hope anyone who takes non-consensual photos of others in a toilet earns a place on the sex offender register.

Many things other than height and hairstyle reveal a person’s sex. I’m pretty sure I’ve never mistaken a woman for a man for more than a moment. I’m sure a woman over 6ft tall with short hair would only have to speak if anyone questioned her.

Oh yes. I agree. Of course by “anyone” you do mean anyone don’t you? So if say a male with a trans identity was taking pictures of non consenting women, you’d be all for him being sent to male prison and put on the sex offenders register wouldn’t you?

The last time I did, I said "I'm going to the Gents next door", and did 😆

I'm not claiming this as clever or effective in any way at all, it was an instant reaction. Both loos were otherwise empty, for anyone wondering. And the guy was built like a storage unit.

That’s outrageous, Eager. I don’t know if I’d have the courage to challenge a man in a women’s space, as he could obviously be dangerous.

But I would put the assistant straight about the law. And complain to management too.

Her privacy would be her business.

It would be evidence of a male intruder in a female space. You can't get put on the sex offender register for collecting evidence.

Who’s privacy? The woman entering or the man breaking the law by being there?

Evidence of a man in the act of transgressing women’s boundaries. James Esses has an interesting line on this. It is in connection with that man who won an Edinburgh comedy award taking a photo of himself on a toilet. There is a sanitary bin beside him, so presume it is the women’s toilets.

”The men who seek access to women’s spaces are desperately mentally unwell, utterly depraved or full-blown misogynists.” writes James Esses.

I must admit looking at a picture of a man (denying that he is of his sex) beside the sanitary bin brings to my mind the type of disgusting fetishes some men have. I think ‘gross’ is apt.

Take your passport to the toilets I guess otherwise certain people on this thread will be taking photos of you if you share a bathroom with them.

As I've said many times the unhealthy obsession with trans people harms all women.

When I said,
Her privacy would be her business.

I meant the real woman’s privacy, not the intruding male’s.

I was answering this post:
TheAmusedQuail · Today 21:40
I'd mind my own business and do what I went in there for.

This.

With bells on.