What would you actually do if you saw a transperson in the wrong toilet/changing room for their sex?

[FattyMcFattyArse]

I've been pondering this ever since the FWS decision and since I saw an obviously male transperson using the ladies at a service station. I initially froze and wanted to say something, but all my Britishness and female social conditioning made me just mutter under my breath and walk away in disgust.

What would you do?

What have you done?

What is the right thing to do?

They don't belong there, according to the law.

But Dominoeffecter would not be concerned.

Ok.

She was 10.

It's also concerning that even if they are caught and convicted, there is a reluctance to imprison TiM sex offenders, due to their "vulnerability", "confusion", and "difficulties they might face in prison," even where their offences are exactly the same of other men.

I need to clarify some details:

The girl Dolatowski assaulted was ten years old.

This was the second girl he'd assaulted in a supermarket toilet in a period of a few weeks.

He wasn't sent to jail for either attack, but for assault:

'Dolatowski, 22, was born male but identifies as female. In 2018, she was banned from having contact with children after sexually assaulting a ten-year-old girl in supermarket toilets in Kirkcaldy.
That attack came just weeks after she targeted another girl at an Asda store in Dunfermline.
She did not face a custodial sentence for those attacks, but was placed on a three-year community payback order and banned from having contact with children. '

https://news.stv.tv/west-central/scottish-prison-service-criticised-for-moving-trans-woman-katie-dolatowski-to-cornton-vale-stirling

So you would be concerned if you saw a man this size in the women's toilets - esp if there was a young girl on her own in there? Or would you just shrug and leave her to deal with the man herself?

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Your words, never mine. Although, to be fair, as a rampant feminist I've never seen the insult in being called the c word. I have one. It isn't offensive.

I'm not worried about trans women in the womens loos. You are. Fair enough.

Trans women are male people, in other words they are men.

So that is literally what the thread is about.

I’d walk out, at the end if the day he’s a man. You can’t change that with an op or hormone tablets.

If you're not worried about fully intact males in female spaces, you are not a feminist! You're a meninist. Feminists and feminism centres the sex-based needs and rights of the female sex. Not males. You're as much a feminist as I am the Pope.

You're not worried about a man the size of Dolatowski being in the women's toilets? It wouldn't worry you in the slightest if you went into the ladies toilets and there was also a young girl in there on her own? You'd ignore him completely, go into the cubicle, go to the loo, come out, and leave - even if she was in the cubicle and he was still waiting by the sinks? You wouldn't check she was safe? Call security and let them know? You'd literally do nothing?

So by your reasoning:
The risk from men (transwomen) in ladies toilets is less than the risk from partners.

So you seem to think we should just allow men into ladies toilets because the risk is smaller?

Tell that to the women and girls who have been accosted, no matter how many.

Strawman indeed.

Oh and btw, there is no such thing as cis women.

I'd say. I think you've made a mistake, this is the ladies loo. Benefit of the doubt and see what their response was. If aggressive I'd leave immediately and report if possible.

You insulted me by calling my response to sexual assault 'hysteria'. I find that a strange response from someone calling themselves a 'rampant feminist'.

And I answered the question of 'What would you actually do.'

I'd use the toilet.

You're looking for an argument. I'm not having one.

And I repeat - You're not worried about a man the size of Dolatowski being in the women's toilets? It wouldn't worry you in the slightest if you went into the ladies toilets and there was also a young girl in there on her own? You'd ignore him completely, go into the cubicle, use the loo, come out, and leave - even if she was in the cubicle and he was still waiting by the sinks? You wouldn't check she was safe? Call security and let them know? You'd literally do nothing?

No, I just wanted to let you know that you have insulted a sexual assault survivor. And you've acknowledged that you've read my post. Thank you. That's all I wanted.

The BlackCat also said "Horrible I know and I'd never genuinely wish or want that."

Recognising one's dark thoughts is the first step to dealing with them. It is quite clear from her posts that TheBlackCat is struggling with the presence or potential presence of men in spaces she can reasonably expect them to avoid. As a man, I feel very strongly that we should not be intruding in women's spaces, and particularly because some men behave appallingly and women cannot be expected to know which of us is safe and which of us is not. Decent men go out of their way to try to avoid causing worry or fear to women (and for that matter to transwomen and other men, but transwomen and other men are not generally as vulnerable as women).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14332871/Gay-man-identifies-woman-toilets-spying.html

'Plumber Ivan Blidar, 37, was detained for voyeurism offences after he was caught peeking at the victim over the cubicle wall at a McDonald's restaurant in Liverpool city centre.
When quizzed by police over his actions, bearded Bildar said he identified as a woman, was homosexual and insisted people of 'non-traditional sexual orientation' in the UK had a 'choice' of toilets to use.
He claimed he had previously used both the ladies and the gents without issue and added that it was 'usual' for men to go into women's toilets in London where he has lived for six years.'

This "you're more likely to be assaulted/raped/whatever" by someone you know thing.

Everyone does realise that the predators get to know you so they can attack you more easily right? That men become trusted members of the community exactly so they can get in positions of control over vulnerable people they can exploit, who then won't be believed?

These abusive partners, don't get in a relationship, then one day decide to abuse you - they get in a relationship specifically so they have someone to control and exploit.

It's a self-selecting group, you can't just make it about random numbers, these men are motivated!

Just to give you the heads up, you can't say "waiting by the sinks" on here.

You get laughed at due to the lack of understanding from some posters.

^https://metro.co.uk/2025/03/22/sex-offender-jailed-recording-hundreds-men-using-toilet-22773245/^

'Chleo Sunter, 37, was caught with 790 pictures and 15 videos of men inside toilet cubicles and standing at urinals.
Sunter, a trans woman previously known as John Leslie Graham, took the photos in the men’s loos at an Aldi supermarket, a shopping centre in Middlesbrough, and at Darlington Train Station between January and November 2023.
Sunter admitted to two counts of voyeurism at Teesside Crown Court.
She also admitted six breaches of a sexual harm prevention order after she was found to be in possession of extreme pornographic images in 2014 when going by the name of John Leslie Graham.'

This man is explicitly banned from taking his trousers down save for in male toilet facilities:

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/18234202.chichester-flasher-pervert-exposed-women-city/

'“This order prohibits you from being unclothed from the waist down, or exposing your genitals in an area to which the public has access, save for male toilet facilities,” the judge said. '

Are you concerned?
He sexually assaulted a ten year old girl in the supermarket toilets.
Does this concern you at all?